1x16gb RAM VS 2x8?

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Read the title bub

[Omega]

Opprinnelig skrevet av The Spoopy Kitteh:

Getting a 4x4GB kit will help the OP remember to buy a whole kit for the next upgrade..and that is the point I was trying to make.

That doesn't make any sense.. All you will be doing is spending more on the RAM and killing your upgrade path. OP can throw his current RAM in the garbage can if he ever wants to upgrade if he buys 4x4gb. That is $200 wasted..

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

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Opprinnelig skrevet av tacoshy:

4 modules are worse then 2 modules because it is ehavier for the memory controller to handle.

You can mismatch speed and timings. In both cases the worst timings and speed going to be chosen by memory controller.
Only advantage of 4 modules is the look of a complete set.


Not only HEDT's like an i9 or TR offer quad channel. "Cheap" i7's like the 7800X is also quad channel capable. That CPU went cheaper then a 7700K for a time then the 7700K and is merely on a level with the 8700K.


No Crucial uses Hynix chips (I hope you emnt this with Cynix). If you would know who Crucial is as company then you would know that Crucial isnt a Company at all. Crucial is a Brand of Micron. And as bein a Micron company of course they only using Micron chips...So you're right with that Astaea

http://pics.crucial.com/wcsstore/CrucialSAS/images/ext/crucial_logo.png

Clearly says: by Micron. And on the Homepage fo Crucial the owner is named as: Micron Technology Inc.

With 4 RAM modules if something goes wrong with 1 module you can still have 3 modules (12 GB RAM which are still enough to run 1080p high).
It is like HDDs, I always suggest multiple HDDs instead of only one because due to mechanical high probability of failure of HDDs having other HDDs available is a safe choice.
4XRAM modules and 4X1TB HDDs are the ways to go.

Redndancy is also a factor.

Opprinnelig skrevet av Omega:

Opprinnelig skrevet av The Spoopy Kitteh:

Getting a 4x4GB kit will help the OP remember to buy a whole kit for the next upgrade..and that is the point I was trying to make.

That doesn't make any sense.. All you will be doing is spending more on the RAM and killing your upgrade path. OP can throw his current RAM in the garbage can if he ever wants to upgrade if he buys 4x4gb. That is $200 wasted..

And the rest of how I replied to you? How is it $200 wasted? It's not like the OP wants to buy the fastest speed possible for his motherboard (which might not even be compatible with anything above DDR4-2660).

[Omega]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Infinity Josh:

With 4 RAM modules if something goes wrong with 1 module you can still have 3 modules (12 GB RAM which are still enough to run 1080p high).
It is like HDDs, I always suggest multiple HDDs instead of only one because due to mechanical high probability of failure of HDDs having other HDDs available is a safe choice.
4XRAM modules and 4X1TB HDDs are the ways to go.

With two modules OP can simply RMA the RAM is it breaks, these things have life time warranty. So your argument is invalid.

[tacoshy]

4x4Gb only ensures hat you have no upgrade path and put mroe laod on the memory controller then selecting 2x8GB which would be also cheaper. YOu can upgarde your RAm later anyways with the same type of RAM or just any other that is compatible.

I recently upgraded from 2x16GB to 4x16GB. Tehre where about 5 month in between and they have 0 problems (I never had problems befor too) but they are the same type of RAM.

Only 3 reason to go with 4 modules:

1st: Complete RAM set
2nd: Quad Channel
3rd: reaching max possible supported RAM

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

Opprinnelig skrevet av tacoshy:

4x4Gb only ensures hat you have no upgrade path and put mroe laod on the memory controller then selecting 2x8GB which would be also cheaper. YOu can upgarde your RAm later anyways with the same type of RAM or just any other that is compatible.

I recently upgraded from 2x16GB to 4x16GB. Tehre where about 5 month in between and they have 0 problems (I never had problems befor too) but they are the same type of RAM.

Only 3 reason to go with 4 modules:

1st: Complete RAM set
2nd: Quad Channel
3rd: reaching max possible supported RAM

Quad Channel is only possible with 8 slots...OP has 4.

Opprinnelig skrevet av Omega:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Infinity Josh:

With 4 RAM modules if something goes wrong with 1 module you can still have 3 modules (12 GB RAM which are still enough to run 1080p high).
It is like HDDs, I always suggest multiple HDDs instead of only one because due to mechanical high probability of failure of HDDs having other HDDs available is a safe choice.
4XRAM modules and 4X1TB HDDs are the ways to go.

With two modules OP can simply RMA the RAM is it breaks, these things have life time warranty. So your argument is invalid.

Yes..and one would have to wait for the item to be delivered and only have 8GB RAM availible in stead of 12GB. I actually had to do an RMA on mine...bought a 4x4GB kit. I RMA'ed the first kit due to a bad module...then started to use the PC with a 3x4GB config until my shipment arrived. I had about a month to return the bad kit to Corsair after I installed and made sure the new one worked properly.

[Omega]

Opprinnelig skrevet av The Spoopy Kitteh:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Omega:

With two modules OP can simply RMA the RAM is it breaks, these things have life time warranty. So your argument is invalid.

Yes..and one would have to wait for the item to be delivered and only have 8GB RAM availible in stead of 12GB. I actually had to do an RMA on mine...bought a 4x4GB kit. I RMA'ed the first kit due to a bad module...then started to use the PC with a 3x4 config until my shipment arrived.

And? This doesn't make any sense.. "You have to wait a week for the new ones". So what?

Should I go SLI now aswell incase one of the cards breaks?

[tacoshy]

Opprinnelig skrevet av The Spoopy Kitteh:

Opprinnelig skrevet av tacoshy:

4x4Gb only ensures hat you have no upgrade path and put mroe laod on the memory controller then selecting 2x8GB which would be also cheaper. YOu can upgarde your RAm later anyways with the same type of RAM or just any other that is compatible.

I recently upgraded from 2x16GB to 4x16GB. Tehre where about 5 month in between and they have 0 problems (I never had problems befor too) but they are the same type of RAM.

Only 3 reason to go with 4 modules:

1st: Complete RAM set
2nd: Quad Channel
3rd: reaching max possible supported RAM

Quad Channel is only possible with 8 slots...OP has 4.

right and so this is a reason not to take 4x4 modules as he has no improvement of using quad channel if he ahs no supporting motherboard (which we dont know). And its not depending on the motherboard but on the CPU as the motherboard has nothing to say in that matter sicne the memory controller still sits after all those years in the CPU.

[Omega]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Infinity Josh:

Opprinnelig skrevet av The Spoopy Kitteh:

Quad Channel is only possible with 8 slots...OP has 4.

8 slots are more futureproof, and the heat would also be more uniform which means less stress on multiple points.

No they are not. Most 4 slots already take up to 64gb of RAM. By the time 64gb will be the norm this machine will be ANCIENT.

8 slots are only available on the high-end X299 and Threadripper motherboards. And if you can afford that you can probably afford a new system in 5 years aswell.

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Omega:

Opprinnelig skrevet av The Spoopy Kitteh:

Yes..and one would have to wait for the item to be delivered and only have 8GB RAM availible in stead of 12GB. I actually had to do an RMA on mine...bought a 4x4GB kit. I RMA'ed the first kit due to a bad module...then started to use the PC with a 3x4 config until my shipment arrived.

And? This doesn't make any sense.. "You have to wait a week for the new ones". So what?

Should I go SLI now aswell incase one of the cards breaks?

Where did I mention video cards? That is an apples to oranges comparison. The subject is RAM moduals...not video cards. RMA'ing RAM moduels requires the entire kit to be sent back to their manufacturer, not just the single bad stick/modual.

[Omega]

Opprinnelig skrevet av The Spoopy Kitteh:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Omega:

And? This doesn't make any sense.. "You have to wait a week for the new ones". So what?

Should I go SLI now aswell incase one of the cards breaks?

Where did I mention video cards? That is an apples to oranges comparison. The subject is RAM moduals...not video cards. RMA'ing RAM moduels requires the entire kit to be sent back to their manufacturer, not just the single bad stick/modual.

Ok. So why would a 4 module kit be any different then?

And also, WHO CARES. It doesn't matter. For the important stuff like checking email, banking etc.. most people will have a 2nd non gaming machine or a smart phone.

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Omega:

Opprinnelig skrevet av The Spoopy Kitteh:

Where did I mention video cards? That is an apples to oranges comparison. The subject is RAM moduals...not video cards. RMA'ing RAM moduels requires the entire kit to be sent back to their manufacturer, not just the single bad stick/modual.

Ok. So why would a 4 module kit be any different then?

And also, WHO CARES. It doesn't matter. For the important stuff like checking email, banking etc.. most people will have a 2nd non gaming machine or a smart phone.

4x4GB vs 2x8GB. In a 4x4 config, if one of the mouals is bad, you have 12GB RAM remaining to use. In the 2x8GB configuration, you only have 8GB system RAM if one of the sticks/moduals goes bad.

Most manufactureres of RAM kits will allow you to keep the defective kit while they ship you a new one after an RMA claim is established. In my case, I contacted Corsair about the problem, and they sent me the new kit, I sent them the kit that was defective. Given that I live in Ohio, and that most of these kits are way out in California, there is a wait for shipping and handling. I had no other PC to use as backup...and at the time my Laptop was not functional at all.

Given the choice, I could still run better on 12GB of RAM while iI waited, then I would have run on only 8GB.

So given the choice concerening redundancy in case the OP has to place an RMA claim their entire kit due to a bad RAM stick, they will have it a lot easier using a 4x4GB kit rather than a 2x8GB kit.

[Omega]

Opprinnelig skrevet av The Spoopy Kitteh:

4x4GB vs 2x8GB. In a 4x4 config, if one of the mouals is bad, you have 12GB RAM remaining to use. In the 2x8GB configuration, you only have 8GB system RAM if one of the sticks/moduals goes bad.

But you were just claiming the HAVE TO SENT THE ENTIRE KIT. You are contradiction yourself.

Also, 8gb is enough. More then enough.

So stop spreading this crap..

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Omega:

Opprinnelig skrevet av The Spoopy Kitteh:

4x4GB vs 2x8GB. In a 4x4 config, if one of the mouals is bad, you have 12GB RAM remaining to use. In the 2x8GB configuration, you only have 8GB system RAM if one of the sticks/moduals goes bad.

But you were just claiming the HAVE TO SENT THE ENTIRE KIT. You are contradiction yourself.

Also, 8gb is enough. More then enough.

So stop spreading this crap..

I also said that they let you keep the old kit while waitingfor the new one...then you send the entire old kit after the new one is installed. (It also illistrates why you should not throw away the packaging right away when you have completed a build in any way shape or form until you are absolutely sure you don't need to RMA anyting).

If one RAM stick goes bad out of 4, you still have 3 good ones to work with until the new kit arrives.

[Omega]

Opprinnelig skrevet av The Spoopy Kitteh:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Omega:

But you were just claiming the HAVE TO SENT THE ENTIRE KIT. You are contradiction yourself.

Also, 8gb is enough. More then enough.

So stop spreading this crap..

I also said that they let you keep the old kit while waitring for the new one...then you send the entire old kit.

If one RAM stick goes bad out of 4, you still have 3 good ones to work with until the new kit arrives.

And how does that justify spending more and killing your upgrade path unless willing to throw all the RAM in the bin?

It doesn't..

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Omega:

Opprinnelig skrevet av The Spoopy Kitteh:

I also said that they let you keep the old kit while waitring for the new one...then you send the entire old kit.

If one RAM stick goes bad out of 4, you still have 3 good ones to work with until the new kit arrives.

And how does that justify spending more and killing your upgrade path unless willing to throw all the RAM in the bin?

It doesn't..

OH? tell me how it doesn't outside of the upgrade "path". The pros of redundancy outwiegh the cons of "cost" and "lack" of an upgrade path.