Pc Upgrade CPU and Graphics Card Help Please!

[247gamerz]

Hi Peeps!

A complete Noob to PC gaming but managed to pick myself up a gaming PC from a friend for £120. I know its tired....

Spec here:
ADMI RD21 Gaming PC Package: Versatile Desktop Computer with 21.5 Inch 1080p Monitor, Keyboard & Mouse Set (AMD A6-6400K 4.1GHz Dual Core CPU with Radeon HD 8470D Graphics, USB 3.0, 500W PSU, 1TB Hard Drive, 8GB RAM, 24 x DVDRW Drive

I have this hooked up via HDMI to my 65' TV and wanted to improve the graphics card for playing games like, American Truck Sim, Fortnite and Possibly playing AAA title games later on.

Question is what Graphics Card do I look at buying to make sure I will notice the difference without breaking the bank? Id say under £200 ideally or less... Do I then need anything else for it work run ok?



Few people have suggested the following to me but not sure what to do!

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£83.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£59.66 @ YoYoTech)
Memory: Kingston - FURY 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (£90.49 @ ********)
Total: £234.14

OR:

1 x Palit GeForce GTX 1050 StormX 2048MB PCI-Express GDDR5 Graphics Card= £109.99
1 x AMD Kaveri A10-7700K 10 Compute Core APU w/ Radeon R7 Graphics (4 CPU + 6 GPU Compute Cores) - Reta= £82.99
Total: £203.48 (includes shipping: £10.50)



Thanks for your help...

[[wan-clan.org] Gordy Freeman]

Assuming it will fit inside the PC, get a GeForce GTX 1050 Ti or Radeon equivalent.

Anything less for gaming at 1080p and you're just throwing away money... as you may have already noticed.

[247gamerz]

引用自 Gordy Freeman 🇦🇺：

Assuming it will fit inside the PC, get a GeForce GTX 1050 Ti or Radeon equivalent.

OK so just replace my card with the 1050Ti and maybe upgrade to AMD A10-7700K? Thanks for speedy reply.

[WEB]

A really good budget cpu is an AMD-8300 Eight core
i've used it for since I've had my computer and still seems pretty good around the price of 100 USD if you're willing to spend that much on one

[[wan-clan.org] Gordy Freeman]

FYI: Calling the above PC a "Gaming PC Package:" is borderline criminal negligence.

The AMD A6 6400K runs on Socket FM2, one of the hardest CPU sockets to upgrade.

The AMD 8300 Eight core uses Socket AM3/AM3+, which is totally incompatible (it will not physically fit in the socket without damaging the chip).

[tacoshy]

引用自 ExceededFern：

A really good budget cpu is an AMD-8300 Eight core
i've used it for since I've had my computer and still seems pretty good around the price of 100 USD if you're willing to spend that much on one

It's not good even for around 100$ there cheaper CPU's that stomp it. Besides it is not really an eight core CPU. Architecture wise it is only a Quad with HT.

However the most important thing: FX are AM3+ socket while the A6-6400K is socket AM2... They are not compatible.

A New platform will be needed so the new Ryzen APU's would be the way to start. However I would aim to the noticeably stronger 2400G if you can.

[[wan-clan.org] Gordy Freeman]

Is the 2400G out?

Edit: It would appear so. (I'm a few weeks behind on general computer hardware news).

Edit 2: The AMD Ryzen 2400G 'Raven Ridge' APU isn't a bad chip...

[⛧EyMi Mayhem⛧]

引用自 Gordy Freeman 🇦🇺：

FYI: Calling the above PC a "Gaming PC Package:" is borderline criminal negligence.

The AMD A6 6400K runs on Socket FM2, one of the hardest CPU sockets to upgrade.

The AMD 8300 Eight core uses Socket AM3/AM3+, which is totally incompatible (it will not physically fit in the socket without damaging the chip).

^This

引用自 247gamerz：

Hi Peeps!

A complete Noob to PC gaming but managed to pick myself up a gaming PC from a friend for £120. I know its tired....

Spec here:
ADMI RD21 Gaming PC Package: Versatile Desktop Computer with 21.5 Inch 1080p Monitor, Keyboard & Mouse Set (AMD A6-6400K 4.1GHz Dual Core CPU with Radeon HD 8470D Graphics, USB 3.0, 500W PSU, 1TB Hard Drive, 8GB RAM, 24 x DVDRW Drive

I have this hooked up via HDMI to my 65' TV and wanted to improve the graphics card for playing games like, American Truck Sim, Fortnite and Possibly playing AAA title games later on.

Question is what Graphics Card do I look at buying to make sure I will notice the difference without breaking the bank? Id say under £200 ideally or less... Do I then need anything else for it work run ok?



Few people have suggested the following to me but not sure what to do!

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£83.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£59.66 @ YoYoTech)
Memory: Kingston - FURY 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (£90.49 @ ********)
Total: £234.14

OR:

1 x Palit GeForce GTX 1050 StormX 2048MB PCI-Express GDDR5 Graphics Card= £109.99
1 x AMD Kaveri A10-7700K 10 Compute Core APU w/ Radeon R7 Graphics (4 CPU + 6 GPU Compute Cores) - Reta= £82.99
Total: £203.48 (includes shipping: £10.50)

Let's see...

Your current rig is too weak and not rly for gaming, chances are high the psu is crap too.

And the few ppl suggested crap.

Scratch the 2nd rig, it's crap.. only the 1050 is max. okay. But nothing for your goal.

First one is okayish, but I would change the ram (kingston is okay, but ryzen loves higher mhz) and mobo, asrock.. eh, not a top pick, msi has enough cheap good mobo for the am4.


Your goal is some simulators and triple a games.
Both will not rly do the job fine..


To give you an idea what you min. need/should aim for to enjoy your games.

8th gen i3 / Gtx 1050 ti - £652.73
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/rvG2RJ

Ryzen 3 / gtx 1050ti - £635.57
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/GqzCyX

And if the budget allows a ssd for os and apps, maybe few games:
wd green 240gb ~ 60 bucks extra.
Or ~ 70 for a crucial mx300 with 275gb.

[247gamerz]

I know thats a good spec but im really looking to spend no more than say £250 for graphics and CPU if required......

[[wan-clan.org] Gordy Freeman]

If you are in the UK or near it, try this site to search for the best deals on computer hardware.

www.staticice.co.uk

E.g.
http://www.staticice.co.uk/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=geforce+gtx+1050+ti+&spos=1

[247gamerz]

引用自 ⛧EyMi Mayhem⛧：

引用自 Gordy Freeman 🇦🇺：

FYI: Calling the above PC a "Gaming PC Package:" is borderline criminal negligence.

The AMD A6 6400K runs on Socket FM2, one of the hardest CPU sockets to upgrade.

The AMD 8300 Eight core uses Socket AM3/AM3+, which is totally incompatible (it will not physically fit in the socket without damaging the chip).

^This

引用自 247gamerz：

Hi Peeps!

A complete Noob to PC gaming but managed to pick myself up a gaming PC from a friend for £120. I know its tired....

Spec here:
ADMI RD21 Gaming PC Package: Versatile Desktop Computer with 21.5 Inch 1080p Monitor, Keyboard & Mouse Set (AMD A6-6400K 4.1GHz Dual Core CPU with Radeon HD 8470D Graphics, USB 3.0, 500W PSU, 1TB Hard Drive, 8GB RAM, 24 x DVDRW Drive

I have this hooked up via HDMI to my 65' TV and wanted to improve the graphics card for playing games like, American Truck Sim, Fortnite and Possibly playing AAA title games later on.

Question is what Graphics Card do I look at buying to make sure I will notice the difference without breaking the bank? Id say under £200 ideally or less... Do I then need anything else for it work run ok?



Few people have suggested the following to me but not sure what to do!

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£83.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£59.66 @ YoYoTech)
Memory: Kingston - FURY 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (£90.49 @ ********)
Total: £234.14

OR:

1 x Palit GeForce GTX 1050 StormX 2048MB PCI-Express GDDR5 Graphics Card= £109.99
1 x AMD Kaveri A10-7700K 10 Compute Core APU w/ Radeon R7 Graphics (4 CPU + 6 GPU Compute Cores) - Reta= £82.99
Total: £203.48 (includes shipping: £10.50)

Let's see...

Your current rig is too weak and not rly for gaming, chances are high the psu is crap too.

And the few ppl suggested crap.

Scratch the 2nd rig, it's crap.. only the 1050 is max. okay. But nothing for your goal.

First one is okayish, but I would change the ram (kingston is okay, but ryzen loves higher mhz) and mobo, asrock.. eh, not a top pick, msi has enough cheap good mobo for the am4.


Your goal is some simulators and triple a games.
Both will not rly do the job fine..


To give you an idea what you min. need/should aim for to enjoy your games.

8th gen i3 / Gtx 1050 ti - £652.73
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/rvG2RJ

Ryzen 3 / gtx 1050ti - £635.57
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/GqzCyX

And if the budget allows a ssd for os and apps, maybe few games:
wd green 240gb ~ 60 bucks extra.
Or ~ 70 for a crucial mx300 with 275gb.

Very helpful - thanks.

So if you was me what would you order to increase machine without spending more than £250 total 'ish? and that fits my machine without any issues etc... Ta.

[⛧EyMi Mayhem⛧]

引用自 247gamerz：

I know thats a good spec but im really looking to spend no more than say £250 for graphics and CPU if required......

For 250 a good gpu/cpu combo for your goal, no.
That's enough for a decent 1050ti to give you a nice small boost.
for ~ 6-8 bucks more a decent psu too (depends on your current one)

You are limited coz of the fm2, a new decent socket/mobo, cpu and ram is out of your budget range.

The only option you could use, replace the a6 with a 860k, but tbh that's money u could spent on/save for newer hardware.

[⛧EyMi Mayhem⛧]

引用自 247gamerz：

引用自 ⛧EyMi Mayhem⛧：

^This




Let's see...

Your current rig is too weak and not rly for gaming, chances are high the psu is crap too.

And the few ppl suggested crap.

Scratch the 2nd rig, it's crap.. only the 1050 is max. okay. But nothing for your goal.

First one is okayish, but I would change the ram (kingston is okay, but ryzen loves higher mhz) and mobo, asrock.. eh, not a top pick, msi has enough cheap good mobo for the am4.


Your goal is some simulators and triple a games.
Both will not rly do the job fine..


To give you an idea what you min. need/should aim for to enjoy your games.

8th gen i3 / Gtx 1050 ti - £652.73
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/rvG2RJ

Ryzen 3 / gtx 1050ti - £635.57
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/GqzCyX

And if the budget allows a ssd for os and apps, maybe few games:
wd green 240gb ~ 60 bucks extra.
Or ~ 70 for a crucial mx300 with 275gb.

Very helpful - thanks.

So if you was me what would you order to increase machine without spending more than £250 total 'ish? and that fits my machine without any issues etc... Ta.

Since it's for gaming, I would go with intel coz of the single core performance.
But the £250 are a prob, that's enough for a decent 1050ti and a nice psu or ssd.

And fit, well according to amazon, the pre-built pc has a atx case, so you could basically throw anything in it.


But I would save some extra pennies for an overhaul :s

[[wan-clan.org] Gordy Freeman]

I'd just put ***all, (or as much as possible minus a new PSU)*** of the £250 pounds into a new graphics card, and then start saving for a new rig.

This search engine looks for computer hardware, you could afford a GeForce GTX 1060 6GB which is a fairly good card/GPU:
http://staticice.co.uk/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=geforce+gtx+6gb+price%3A215&spos=1

[247gamerz]

So 1050ticard and what else you suggest I buy then?

[[wan-clan.org] Gordy Freeman]

If you could save another £30 pounds... the AMD Radeon RX 580 is an option:
http://staticice.co.uk/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=radeon+rx+580+price%3A215&spos=1


Note that whichever route you take (NVIDIA or AMD/ATI) you might need to purchase a better Power Supply Unit (PSU).