Difference between i7-7700 vs i7-8700

[SHOOKSHOOKe]

7700 is quad core and 8700 is hexa core. Will it make a huge difference when playing games like PUBG?

[SHOOKSHOOKe]

Nguyên văn bởi Jamebonds1:

Nguyên văn bởi Vagarious Reveler:

I have i5-3450 now.

Yike... time for newer CPU lol. I have that socket CPU too. My i7-3770K still running well. So if you're looking for building new computer, what is your budget would be?

I am not building a whole new PC. Just looking for a good CPU and Mainboard. My budget is about 500 in dollar.

[tacoshy]

Nguyên văn bởi John Doe:

It's not worth it even at €285 and lower board prices, 4 cores WILL be limiting in the long future if he wants to keep the CPU for a long time. 6 will just offer more.

Not every retailer will still be keeping 7700Ks, some of them would clear stock (like that €285 thing) while others will run out of stocks by simply selling them. What you're seeing are the leftovers.

The CPU is still produced... not just leftovers. I agree that it is not worth in the long run. But most ppl with budget dont care for the long runs of more then 5 years. Most ppl care for the price and a 7700K with motherboard cost less then an 8700K while they dont need the 2 cores.

And if that user says he cant even affor a 7700K just a 7700 non-K because of price the 8700K will be way otu of league


PS: if you read, I even said I would go for an 8600K...I think too that it is the better CPU but for price the 7700K is still a valid option in many cases.

[John Doe]

Nguyên văn bởi tacoshy:

Nguyên văn bởi John Doe:

It's not worth it even at €285 and lower board prices, 4 cores WILL be limiting in the long future if he wants to keep the CPU for a long time. 6 will just offer more.

Not every retailer will still be keeping 7700Ks, some of them would clear stock (like that €285 thing) while others will run out of stocks by simply selling them. What you're seeing are the leftovers.

The CPU is still produced... not just leftovers. I agree that it is not worth in the long run. But most ppl with budget dont care for the long runs of more then 5 years. Most ppl care for the price and a 7700K with motherboard cost less then an 8700K while they dont need the 2 cores.

And if that user says he cant even affor a 7700K just a 7700 non-K because of price the 8700K will be way otu of league


PS: if you read, I even said I would go for an 8600K...I think too that it is the better CPU but for price the 7700K is still a valid option in many cases.

Intel is going to move to 10nm with Icelake and they'll focus on that. The 8700K is 14nm and it will be obsolete by that time as well, it's had a bit of life in the past months. I don't think the 7700K is still being made, even if it is, high end boards don't come up for it anymore, so it's still an OBSOLETE platform.

It WILL be better in the cases all 6 cores are being used, not just 5 years over from now. As for price / performance, speak for yourself and stop talking about a generation older CPU being good P / P because it's based on a DEAD platform.

I do read. I said a six core would be better because of the extra cores AND the IPC, then you came up and said it's not just IPC but also the other 2 cores... sigh.

[Jamebonds1]

Nguyên văn bởi Vagarious Reveler:

Nguyên văn bởi Jamebonds1:

Yike... time for newer CPU lol. I have that socket CPU too. My i7-3770K still running well. So if you're looking for building new computer, what is your budget would be?

I am not building a whole new PC. Just looking for a good CPU and Mainboard. My budget is about 500 in dollar.

If that case, I might just found pair that's within budget. I know it is not very pretty but it is within.

i7-8700K
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117827

GIGABYTE Z370M
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813145055

GIGABYTE Z370 HD3
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813145041

[tacoshy]

Nguyên văn bởi John Doe:

Nguyên văn bởi tacoshy:

The CPU is still produced... not just leftovers. I agree that it is not worth in the long run. But most ppl with budget dont care for the long runs of more then 5 years. Most ppl care for the price and a 7700K with motherboard cost less then an 8700K while they dont need the 2 cores.

And if that user says he cant even affor a 7700K just a 7700 non-K because of price the 8700K will be way otu of league


PS: if you read, I even said I would go for an 8600K...I think too that it is the better CPU but for price the 7700K is still a valid option in many cases.

Intel is going to move to 10nm with Icelake and they'll focus on that. The 8700K is 14nm and it will be obsolete by that time as well, it's had a bit of life in the past months. I don't think the 7700K is still being made, even if it is, high end boards don't come up for it anymore, so it's still an OBSOLETE platform.

It WILL be better in the cases all 6 cores are being used, not just 5 years over from now. As for price / performance, speak for yourself and stop talking about a generation older CPU being good P / P because it's based on a DEAD platform.

I do read. I said a six core would be better because of the extra cores AND the IPC, then you came up and said it's not just IPC but also the other 2 cores... sigh.

I satked way ebfor if a 7700K isnt even affordable then a 8700K wont be too and he should go with 8600K (which is a 6th core coffee lake as you know)

http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/1698293255135106538/#c1698293255135219573

8700K is already too a dead plattform even if they finally release a B360 MoBo as you already said the next generation which was planned befor coffee lake will sue a different socket. Of course this is the most modern consumer platform by Intel so dead might be the wrong way but we know that it days are coutned too.

Yes 7700K is an obsolete plattform and I agreed to it. But if you cant pay coffee lake platform or already have a LGA-1151 (v1) Board the only cost effiecient way to upgrade without raising the budget massivly. Why do ppl still upgrade on AM3+ or older Intel generations?

I dont say that 7700K will be a good choice in the long term but if you can only afford a 7700 non-K how do you want to afford the Z370 Motherboard + any decent CPU?

[tacoshy]

Nguyên văn bởi Jamebonds1:

Nguyên văn bởi Vagarious Reveler:

I am not building a whole new PC. Just looking for a good CPU and Mainboard. My budget is about 500 in dollar.

If that case, I might just found pair that's within budget. I know it is not very pretty but it is within.

i7-8700K
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117827

GIGABYTE Z370M
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813145055

GIGABYTE Z370 HD3
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813145041

nice list (those boards are terrible btw. and I say it as a Gigabyte Local Vendor) but one major flaw: He needs new RAM too...

[Malygos]

Depends on what you wanna do had i known intel was gonna release coffee lake i wouldve just waited i have no trouble streaming on my 7700k idk why people act like you are gonna lose 10fps from it even in cpu heavy games nowhere near performance loss numbers. That said if you get one over an 8700k at this point id buy a binned one that has been tested at 5.1 or better they dont cost much more and would be a 20% peformance gain. You are gonna need a decent cooler if you buy either espcially if you dont delid i have an 280mm aio on mine and still go in the 80's under full load

[⛧EyMi Mayhem⛧]

Would suggest to aim for the coffee i5.. since it's only for gaming.

8600k, a decent z370 asus board, 8 or 16gb ram ddr4-3200
~ $600, less with 8gb.

For example
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wQBvPs

[Jamebonds1]

Nguyên văn bởi tacoshy:

Nguyên văn bởi Jamebonds1:

If that case, I might just found pair that's within budget. I know it is not very pretty but it is within.

i7-8700K
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117827

GIGABYTE Z370M
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813145055

GIGABYTE Z370 HD3
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813145041

nice list (those boards are terrible btw. and I say it as a Gigabyte Local Vendor) ...

And why is those board terrible?

[SHOOKSHOOKe]

Nguyên văn bởi tacoshy:

Nguyên văn bởi Jamebonds1:

If that case, I might just found pair that's within budget. I know it is not very pretty but it is within.

i7-8700K
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117827

GIGABYTE Z370M
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813145055

GIGABYTE Z370 HD3
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813145041

nice list (those boards are terrible btw. and I say it as a Gigabyte Local Vendor) but one major flaw: He needs new RAM too...

Already have two 8gb rams.

[Jamebonds1]

Nguyên văn bởi Vagarious Reveler:

Nguyên văn bởi tacoshy:

nice list (those boards are terrible btw. and I say it as a Gigabyte Local Vendor) but one major flaw: He needs new RAM too...

Already have two 8gb rams.

Yeah. but is it DDR4?

[tacoshy]

Nguyên văn bởi Jamebonds1:

Nguyên văn bởi tacoshy:

nice list (those boards are terrible btw. and I say it as a Gigabyte Local Vendor) but one major flaw: He needs new RAM too...

And why is that?

PS: Sorry if you ment why the MoBo are terrible, the VRM are terrible on those. And boot times are quit high compared to other Gigabyte boards which already have higher boot times then other motherboards because they added that stupid feature to check all sata diveses befor posting which you cant disable.

[Jamebonds1]

Nguyên văn bởi tacoshy:

Nguyên văn bởi Jamebonds1:

And why is that?

do I really need to explain you that he has an i5-3450 which means he uses DDR3 and that Coffee Lake uses DDR4? you cant use DDR3 in any Z370 MoBo just certain Z170 and H110 Motherboards...


CPU + MoBo without any RAM is useless and cheapest way to go with only 8GB RAm easily add another 100$ to that list not to mention the need of a good air cooler which Amy thought about.


Really if you want to give tech advise you should know the basics like this.

I meant why is board that terrible? Sorry. mistaken sentence.

[SHOOKSHOOKe]

Nguyên văn bởi Jamebonds1:

Nguyên văn bởi Vagarious Reveler:

Already have two 8gb rams.

Yeah. but is it DDR4?

Yes it is

[Jamebonds1]

Nguyên văn bởi tacoshy:

Nguyên văn bởi Jamebonds1:

And why is that?

PS: Sorry if you ment why the MoBo are terrible, the VRM are terrible on those. And boot times are quit high compared to other Gigabyte boards which already have higher boot times then other motherboards because they added that stupid feature to check all sata diveses befor posting which you cant disable.

My Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H aren't pretty either but it is good enough for me. I was broken during college and someone damaged my old computer GA-H55-USB3. I was look for stable and quailty, boot time is not my priority. So might not all Gigabyte are that bad.

Plus, last time I heard Gigabyte were best at overclock.

What about Z370 with SSD?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsNSzSrjLgI