I have a GeForce GTX 660 but can barely play games

[Kamen Rider Yeah]

I've been having problems for the last year or so with this computer I got off a friend. He told me he put in the GTX 660 himself just before he gave it to me and it has an AMD FX-4100 Quad-Core Processor and 8GB RAM. To my understanding, he was able to play games fine on it. However, ever since I've gotten this computer, I can barely play most of my games.

League of Legends will drop to under 20 fps even on the lowest settings, Fortnite drops under 30 fps on the lowest settings, my computer will just completely lock up (the screen is frozen, no sound coming from the games, but computer is still running) when I play games like Overwatch and Dark Souls 3.

I've taken my computer in twice to a repair shop and they tell me it runs fine, my RAM isn't damaged like they thought it was, and they didn't seem to find any problems with it. Every now and then though it still freezes and I can't play any of my games like they should be played. I was wondering if anyone on here had any idea what could be wrong with my computer. Is it the CPU? The motherboard? Unless there's something wrong with my graphics card it should be playing my games fine. I'm at a total loss and would appreciate any help or advice I can get, thanks.

I haven't updated my drivers for a while but they were still having these problems even when I had them all up to date.

[⛧EyMi Mayhem⛧]

Your problem is the whole setup, not only the 660.

Let's see.

Amd Fx-4100 - a rly weak cpu for gaming.
GTX 660 - nothing fancy, weak too these days.
8gb - okayish.

So scratch games like overwatch or dark souls 3. The setup is not rly decent anymore.
But it should run lol with more fps.

So is everything up2date?

Since it's a used pc, still the same drive inside? (hdd for example) if so, possible still full with trash.

To make it easier, possible to write down the full specs, os, psu etc ?

[xSOSxHawkens]

the660 is fine for mot ttitles except the aboslute most recept and should be perfeclty suitible for high settings 1080p on something like LOL..

Your weakest part is likely your CPU. If you want an increase on the cheap look into upgrading to a 6 or 8 core FX chip. You might have issues with an 8 core depending on motherboard, but anything that runs FX 4 cores can run FX 6 cores with ease., more or less.

8GB is still ok for most gamging, only titles released at tail end of 2017 and into 2018 have pushed near or above that.

Aside from the CPU the next limiting factor will probably be VRAM more than actual raw GPU core power.

ATM my girlfriend uses a GTX 295 and can play things like GTA-V or The Forrest with acceptable FPS @ low settings 1080p. I also use a mobile GTX 460m 1GB when on the go in an older Asus ROG laptop, and it can play BF3/4/1, GTA-V, The forrest, etc.

Brand new games, such as the highly un-optomised Hunt: Showdown need 2GB vram minimum though and would struggle on anything lower for sure...

[Jamebonds1]

I would suggest to trying a upgrade GPU first. If still not happy with it. Get new computer.

[xSOSxHawkens]

Автор сообщения: Jamebonds1

I would suggest to trying a upgrade GPU first. If still not happy with it. Get new computer.

a more powerfull GPU would be pointless when his CPU already bottlenecks his GPU in most modern titles....

[Jamebonds1]

Автор сообщения: xSOSxHawkens

Автор сообщения: Jamebonds1

I would suggest to trying a upgrade GPU first. If still not happy with it. Get new computer.

a more powerfull GPU would be pointless when his CPU already bottlenecks his GPU in most modern titles....

I'm living proof of evidence the fact that I still using 6 years old i7-3770K at 4.2 GHz and GTX 680, and will not throw away unless need to.

"A more powerfull GPU would be poinless..." Hmmm.... okay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbMbNPylirs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuFM17bCjF8

Well? Got any evidence?

[upcoast]

https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1039?vs=1355

Hmmm, the gtx660 is desperate for an upgrade ^ but current gpu prices are unreasonable at this time.

FX4100 and 8GB ram is also very low.

I guess you've got to figure out how much $$$ you want to throw at it then work from there.

Your current problem could be psu/ram/hdd or even messed up window 10 installation.

Ps, I have an FX8350 and GTX1070 and damn happy about it, lol.

[Jamebonds1]

How old CPU is mean nothing. It is about their performed well with newer video card and game. Ever I have Battlefield 1 and Battfront 2.

[Mossy Snake]

Автор сообщения: Jamebonds1

How old CPU is mean nothing. It is about their performed well with newer video card and game. Ever I have Battlefield 1 and Battfront 2.

The FX-4100 is VERY different from an i7-3770. The 3770 is still very much on-par with a modern i5/R5/i7/R7, but an FX-4100 is burned by the latest Pentiums.

That argument makes little sense, OP should upgrade that to something like an FX-6300 (which is just behind a Pentium G4560 when OC'd) until he can afford something better.

If he can afford something better, he should jump to AM4/LGA1151 and buy what fits his budget.

[tacoshy]

Автор сообщения: Jamebonds1

How old CPU is mean nothing. It is about their performed well with newer video card and game. Ever I have Battlefield 1 and Battfront 2.

of course does the age matter. It tells you alot of the performance, cost efficency and compability already. A FX-4100 is not even a true quad core. It has 2 cores conencted in one Module connected to one lane meaning its a hardware solution of Intels Dual core with hyperthreading. Just worse because you can deactivate that architecured HT. The best eprforing FX would be a FX-8350K with the right OC which then still only keeps on paar with the much cheaper Intel G4560.
The IPC matters and that is weak for any FX compared with current alternatives for same or cheaper price.
The CPU is outdated and out classed for already multiple years so the age actually does matter right now.

[Jamebonds1]

Автор сообщения: MossyRathalos

Автор сообщения: Jamebonds1

How old CPU is mean nothing. It is about their performed well with newer video card and game. Ever I have Battlefield 1 and Battfront 2.

The FX-4100 is VERY different from an i7-3770. The 3770 is still very much on-par with a modern i5/R5/i7/R7, but an FX-4100 is burned by the latest Pentiums.

Thay argument makes little sense, OP should upgrade that to something like an FX-6300 (which is just behind a Pentium G4560 when OC'd) until he can afford something better.

If he can afford something better, he should jump to AM4/LGA1151 and buy what fits his budget.

Have you ever seen video I post? check it again. All I did was suggest to upgrade GPU to see if it work well. If still not happy with it, buying new computer.

[xSOSxHawkens]

In any game that hits both CPU and GPU heavy, he will between bouble to double and a half his performance with his GTX660 by upgrading to an FS6300 or FX8350 respectivly...

Plain and simple.

In a vacume, where its GPU only load, the 4100 can push the 660 about the same as the rest, but oyu load the CPU and GPU up and the 4100 will lag as far behind as my old Athlon II x4 645 @ stock 3.1Ghz...

At the *very* least he needs to OC the crap outta that 4100...

[Mossy Snake]

Автор сообщения: Jamebonds1

Автор сообщения: MossyRathalos

The FX-4100 is VERY different from an i7-3770. The 3770 is still very much on-par with a modern i5/R5/i7/R7, but an FX-4100 is burned by the latest Pentiums.

Thay argument makes little sense, OP should upgrade that to something like an FX-6300 (which is just behind a Pentium G4560 when OC'd) until he can afford something better.

If he can afford something better, he should jump to AM4/LGA1151 and buy what fits his budget.

Have you ever seen video I post? check it again. All I did was suggest to upgrade GPU to see if it work well. If still not happy with it, buying new computer.

In your video it showed the guy being literally unable to break the 40fps barrier in most of those games (and many of those games were at low/medium!). Trust me, I looked.

If he wants to play at a smooth 50-60fps, than he should get a better CPU. That's a fact, as supported by the very video you linked.

[Jamebonds1]

Автор сообщения: tacoshy

Автор сообщения: Jamebonds1

How old CPU is mean nothing. It is about their performed well with newer video card and game. Ever I have Battlefield 1 and Battfront 2.

of course does the age matter. It tells you alot of the performance, cost efficency and compability already. A FX-4100 is not even a true quad core. It has 2 cores conencted in one Module connected to one lane meaning its a hardware solution of Intels Dual core with hyperthreading. Just worse because you can deactivate that architecured HT. The best eprforing FX would be a FX-8350K with the right OC which then still only keeps on paar with the much cheaper Intel G4560.
The IPC matters and that is weak for any FX compared with current alternatives for same or cheaper price.
The CPU is outdated and out classed for already multiple years so the age actually does matter right now.

I have evidence in video I posted that it can still playing game with right video card.

Автор сообщения: xSOSxHawkens

In any game that hits both CPU and GPU heavy, he will between bouble to double and a half his performance with his GTX660 by upgrading to an FS6300 or FX8350 respectivly...

Plain and simple.

In a vacume, where its GPU only load, the 4100 can push the 660 about the same as the rest, but oyu load the CPU and GPU up and the 4100 will lag as far behind as my old Athlon II x4 645 @ stock 3.1Ghz...

At the *very* least he needs to OC the crap outta that 4100...

I shown video that it can still play Battlefield 1 well. That is why I suggest do upgrade video card first.

Автор сообщения: MossyRathalos

Автор сообщения: Jamebonds1

Have you ever seen video I post? check it again. All I did was suggest to upgrade GPU to see if it work well. If still not happy with it, buying new computer.

In your video it showed the guy being literally unable to break the 40fps barrier in most of those games. Trust me, I looked.

If he wants to play at a smooth 50-60fps, than he should get a better CPU. That's a fact, as supported by the very video you linked.

40 FPS is not problem.

[xSOSxHawkens]

A 660 can still play bf1 well with a new cpu...

Ffs...

On BF1 my i7-2630qm bottlenecks a GTX 460m...

That mobile i7 trashes his 4100 and his 660 trashes my 460m.

Meaning, specifically in BF1, his cpu is way more of a bottle neck tham his gpu any day...

[Mossy Snake]

Автор сообщения: Jamebonds1

Автор сообщения: tacoshy

of course does the age matter. It tells you alot of the performance, cost efficency and compability already. A FX-4100 is not even a true quad core. It has 2 cores conencted in one Module connected to one lane meaning its a hardware solution of Intels Dual core with hyperthreading. Just worse because you can deactivate that architecured HT. The best eprforing FX would be a FX-8350K with the right OC which then still only keeps on paar with the much cheaper Intel G4560.
The IPC matters and that is weak for any FX compared with current alternatives for same or cheaper price.
The CPU is outdated and out classed for already multiple years so the age actually does matter right now.

I have evidence in video I posted that it can still playing game with right video card.

Автор сообщения: xSOSxHawkens

In any game that hits both CPU and GPU heavy, he will between bouble to double and a half his performance with his GTX660 by upgrading to an FS6300 or FX8350 respectivly...

Plain and simple.

In a vacume, where its GPU only load, the 4100 can push the 660 about the same as the rest, but oyu load the CPU and GPU up and the 4100 will lag as far behind as my old Athlon II x4 645 @ stock 3.1Ghz...

At the *very* least he needs to OC the crap outta that 4100...

I shown video that it can still play Battlefield 1 well. That is why I suggest do upgrade video card first.

Автор сообщения: MossyRathalos

In your video it showed the guy being literally unable to break the 40fps barrier in most of those games. Trust me, I looked.

If he wants to play at a smooth 50-60fps, than he should get a better CPU. That's a fact, as supported by the very video you linked.

40 FPS is not problem.

Except it is.

Many of those games are fairly old now, so a CPU not being able to play them at a smooth fps in them is laughable.
When you consider the fact that a Pentium G4560 is able to seriously outpace it with a slightly weaker GPU on HIGHER graphical settings:
https://youtu.be/p6cwpPpOKtM
That's an issue.

OP is even saying that it's not enough, which only reinforces that fact.

OP should just get a cheap FX-6300 until he can afford a full upgrade to a new platform.