Optiplex 980 cpu upgrade

[Griff]

Im using a optiplex 980 with an i5 660. My gpu is a gtx 750 ti.
I wanted to know if I could swap my cpu with a Xeon X3460 because its the same socket type. I dont know if dell put any restrictions on what cpu the optiplex can use but I want to get the xeon because the price beats the $80 i7 870.

[Omega]

引用自 Griffen：

引用自 Omega：

I find it highly unlikely for a CPU to go boom 4 seconds after it is turned on.

I find it highly likely for me not to buy a amd product ever

Sure, if that makes you happy.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Its older than Haswell = definitely not worth upgrading

[Griff]

引用自 Bad_Motha：

Its older than Haswell = definitely not worth upgrading

paying $50 beats paying $300 for an i7 7700k. And the thread has went off topic, I started it with a question but instead of answers you are all giving me feedback I didnt ask for.

[xSOSxHawkens]

引用自 Griffen：

引用自 xSOSxHawkens：

Too bad...

You have AMD to thank for multicore comsumer cpus (first consumer dualcores)...

You have AMD to thank for consumer 64bit cpus (first consumer 64bit cpus).

Fwiw you have AMD to thank for a number of other firsts as well... Such as first to 1Ghz (both for cpu and gpu) and first to 1Tflop (both single card (3870x2) and aingle gpu (4870/90))...

AMD has also historically shown itself to be far more pro-consumer than any of the competitors...


Just saying...

But then it dies after 4 seconds

My Durron 700 (tbird core) would like to debate that with you...

So would my agp hd 3650 and 3850...
My PCIe HD5770 (mac vbios) (overclocked)
Hd2400 pro pci
Athlon 64 x2 5600 (overclocked)
Athlon ii x4 645 (oc'd)
Foxconn A79a-s 790fx motherboard.
Gigavyte 780g motherboard.

The lis could continue...


In fact the only cpu/gpu/mb failures I have had have all ben on the blue and green side (3 asus motherboards, 1 desktop gpu, 2 mobiles).

All three green side GPU failures were direct Nvidia faults too... (8800gts died to borked driver update that stopped fans and got recalled, too little too late for me, mobile gpus were failures caused by poorly made cores in the 8400/8600 mobile line because nviidia went cheap with conatruction matterials used...)

[Griff]

引用自 xSOSxHawkens：

引用自 Griffen：

But then it dies after 4 seconds

My Durron 700 (tbird core) would like to debate that with you...

So would my agp hd 3650 and 3850...
My PCIe HD5770 (mac vbios) (overclocked)
Hd2400 pro pci
Athlon 64 x2 5600 (overclocked)
Athlon ii x4 645 (oc'd)
Foxconn A79a-s 790fx motherboard.
Gigavyte 780g motherboard.

The lis could continue...


In fact the only cpu/gpu/mb failures I have had have all ben on the blue and green side (3 asus motherboards, 1 desktop gpu, 2 mobiles).

All three green side GPU failures were direct Nvidia faults too... (8800gts died to borked driver update that stopped fans and got recalled, too little too late for me, mobile gpus were failures caused by poorly made cores in the 8400/8600 mobile line because nviidia went cheap with conatruction matterials used...)

My brothers computer was all amd and about a year after use and dusting it every once in a while the gpu was barely working at all. Eventually one of the fans on the gpu just gave up and the card didnt work after that. I had a amd laptop that would get hot even while not in use and shut off. Amd products are cheap garbage not made to last.

[Omega]

1. Not a single part on that card was manufactured by AMD they only designed the GPU dye.

2. Blame the laptop manufacturer. Once again, not made by AMD. AMD had no say in the design of that laptop.

[Griff]

引用自 Omega：

1. Not a single part on that card was manufactured by AMD they only designed the GPU dye.

2. Blame the laptop manufacturer. Once again, not made by AMD. AMD had no say in the design of that laptop.

https://www.amd.com/en-us/products/graphics/desktop/7000/7900

I bought my 750 ti before he had his computer and mine is still working. Amd is garbage and you're stupid if you think you're buying premium parts.

And everybody I know and play games with would never buy any amd parts. Unless I want reptr to install itself on my computer and parts that burn out in less than a year then I will just stick to intel/nvidia.

[Omega]

"Premium" parts.. A GPU is a GPU.

A snip from Wikipedia:

引用自 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Micro_Devices：

Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. (AMD) is an American multinational semiconductor company based in Santa Clara, California, that develops computer processors and related technologies for business and consumer markets. While initially it manufactured its own processors, the company later outsourced its manufacturing, a practice known as fabless, after GlobalFoundries was spun off in 2009. AMD's main products include microprocessors, motherboard chipsets, embedded processors and graphics processors for servers, workstations and personal computers, and embedded systems applications.

Meaning they don't make any GPUs or CPUs themselfs. It's all done by other companies, those same companies use Intel CPUs and Nvidia GPUs in their products.

AMD CPU and GPU dyes are mainly manufactured by Global Foundries. Then the PCB and cooler is designed and once again outsourced by companies like EVGA, XFX, Sapphire etc..

It's as if you go to the baker and buy a pie and it tastes like crap.
Your logic: This company that made the flower is crap! Never buying any product containing their flower ever again!

If a laptop is running hot:
A. It's filled up with dust, you should clean it.
B. Something demanding is running on it. A game or maybe malware.
C. The cooler simply has a crappy disign.

And oo yeah, bonus fact:
http://www.zdnet.com/article/warning-nvidia-196-75-drivers-can-kill-your-graphics-card/
Nvidia is the only company to ever kill it's own cards with drivers. Whoo hoo! Team RED!

引用自 Griffen：

And everybody I know and play games with would never buy any amd parts. Unless I want reptr to install itself on my computer and parts that burn out in less than a year then I will just stick to intel/nvidia.

Raptr isn't bundles with AMD drivers anymore. Nvidia is the only GPU company that still installs crap software on your PC by default. Geforce Experience.

[xSOSxHawkens]

Again, as others notted, it was not AMD at fault in either of the two examples you listed, it was the manufactuer of the part in question...

Dont buy cheap parts, same would happen if you bought cheap Nvidia or Intel parts..

Cheap is cheap from *any* company...


Buy good parts and any average AMD build will last you just as long as an Intel build of the same quality...

SAME QUALITY is the important factor...

My girfriend plays daily on both an AMD motherboard and AMD quad core CPU that both pre-date your 750ti or your friend build by years....

They are still functional.


Just because your friend bought a poor GPU (that hhapens on both sides of the field) and you bought a poor laptop doesnt mean AMD is bad, if means you guys made bad purchases and should have gotten better quality products, AMD or not...


As far as I am aware, the only recent large scale fan issues on AMD cards were in the R9 290/290x cards made by Asus. They used a new fan design on their forward fan on the Direct CU-II line, and it had abnormally high failure rates at aprox 3.5 years, or just outside of warranty...

But, again, as pointed out, that is Asus's fault not AMD... Asus made the card, and chose the fan to use, they just chose a bad fan...




CONTRAST this to:

My 8800GTS which *was* killed directly by nvidia. They pushed out a faulty driver update that failed to run the fans under load causing many GPU failures. They recalled the driver within 24hrs, but I had already downloaded the update and played games causing dammange before they pulled it Card got warrantied, but was still directly killed by a fault Nvidia driver update...

OR

Both my mobile failures, which were caused by Nvidia using sub-par matterials in the construction of the *actual gpu core* which caused the core to litteraly crack after repeated heating and cooling sessions (you know, like what happens to a laptop daily).


Both of those are *direct* examples of Nvidia killing the devices through negligence, and are NOT the same as your examples where the third party vendor (ones who made the card or laptop) failed to design a proper product.

[Meurock460]

引用自 Griffen：

And everybody I know and play games with would never buy any amd parts. Unless I want reptr to install itself on my computer and parts that burn out in less than a year then I will just stick to intel/nvidia.

Tell that to people who have had an intel/nvidia system burn out in less than a year. All 3 brands can put out a defective product.

I've burnt out an Intel CPU myself. It was completely stock. Have yet to kill an Amd one... I must try harder next time.

Amd, Nvidia and Intel all have at least one lineup that wasn't their greatest... FX, Netburst, Geforce 8000m series to name a few

Also raptr is no longer a thing, thankfully. I'll agree with you on that point.

[xSOSxHawkens]

Ahh, another who remembers the G84/86 core issues on the 8000m line...

What was the worst though was that Nvidia first tried to downplay their failure and sweep it under the rug, THEN tried fro blame the OEM's using their products, THEN tried to balme the consumer, THEN tried to blame their suppliers, and finaly, after the suppliers called BS and went public that nvidia had intentionally chossen inferrior products to cut costs, then and ONLY then did Nvidia finaly come clean and admit the screw up...

They litteraly tried to shift the balme to everyone else before admiting fault. Even onto the consumers...


^^THAT^^ is a company that does not deserve consumer buisness...

Sadly, being only one of two options, they will continuie to get bisness...

[Griff]

引用自 Omega：

"Premium" parts.. A GPU is a GPU.

A snip from Wikipedia:

引用自 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Micro_Devices：

Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. (AMD) is an American multinational semiconductor company based in Santa Clara, California, that develops computer processors and related technologies for business and consumer markets. While initially it manufactured its own processors, the company later outsourced its manufacturing, a practice known as fabless, after GlobalFoundries was spun off in 2009. AMD's main products include microprocessors, motherboard chipsets, embedded processors and graphics processors for servers, workstations and personal computers, and embedded systems applications.

Meaning they don't make any GPUs or CPUs themselfs. It's all done by other companies, those same companies use Intel CPUs and Nvidia GPUs in their products.

AMD CPU and GPU dyes are mainly manufactured by Global Foundries. Then the PCB and cooler is designed and once again outsourced by companies like EVGA, XFX, Sapphire etc..

It's as if you go to the baker and buy a pie and it tastes like crap.
Your logic: This company that made the flower is crap! Never buying any product containing their flower ever again!

If a laptop is running hot your either:
A. Have it filled up with dust, you should clean it.
B. Something demanding is running on it. A game or maybe malware.
C. The cooler simply has a crappy disign.

And oo yeah, bonus fact:
http://www.zdnet.com/article/warning-nvidia-196-75-drivers-can-kill-your-graphics-card/
Nvidia is the only company to ever kill it's own cards with drivers. Whoo hoo! Team RED!

引用自 Griffen：

And everybody I know and play games with would never buy any amd parts. Unless I want reptr to install itself on my computer and parts that burn out in less than a year then I will just stick to intel/nvidia.

Raptr isn't bundles with AMD drivers anymore. Nvidia is the only GPU company that still installs crap software on your PC by default. Geforce Experience.

I already stated that the computer was regularly cleaned, only games and programs like chrome and discord teampspeak were installed and the cpu was watercooled.
Its actually like going to the baker and they use dollar store alternatives to regular pie ingredients. Any manufacturer that you buy nvidia parts from are quality parts and are made to last. Evga, Asus, gigabyte, zotac. Most people agree that nvidia is better and there is no reason to buy amd when you could buy intel or nvidia. https://www.strawpoll.me/2564606

[xSOSxHawkens]

lmao, say most people, uses a straw poll with 912 votes as basis...

Fanboism confirmed....

[Omega]

Sure buddy you keep believing that.

[Griff]

引用自 xSOSxHawkens：

lmao, say most people, uses a straw poll with 912 votes as basis...

Fanboism confirmed....

I just google searched amd vs nvidia poll and clicked on one of the first links. I dont even need to see the results that nvidia would win. Put it this way: if you could have a gtx 1080 from whichever manufacturer you want for free or a amd equivalent for free then which one would you choose?