Razer Kraken USB, Razer Kraken Pro or Hyperx cloud stinger?

[Stixx]

Looking to buy one of these (not 7.1 or v2)
Which one is the best for sound isolation, surround sound and to use the mic?
Using a laptop btw if that has anything to do with the quality.
Pls arrange them from best to worst (1 best, 3 worst)

[Kaihekoa]

OP posted this 9 hours ago and then an hour later says he bought a HyperX Stinger anyway, so thread's over. Not a smart choice imo, but it's his money to waste however he chooses.

[Revelene]

TheRandomGuy님이 먼저 게시:

... While they don't have surround sound...

Again, virtual surround. Any stereo drivers can playback virtual surround.

Go look it up.

The advertising of surround, like on the Razer 7.1, is for their proprietary means of surround virtualization. That's it.

If you want virtual surround sound on quite literally anything with 2 speakers, you can enable it via your Realtek software on your integrated sound, use third party software, or even use the built-in spatial surround sound option in Windows 10.

Kaihekoa님이 먼저 게시:

OP posted this 9 hours ago and then an hour later says he bought a HyperX Stinger anyway, so thread's over. Not a smart choice imo, but it's his money to waste however he chooses.

In the way of Steam Discussions, it ain't over til a mod locks the thread.

I agree, not a good choice.

He'll be complaining of ear fatigue in no time (thanks to the terrible treble response and high harmonic distortion). That, or connection issues. These are two of the biggest complaints I see for these headsets.

[tacoshy]

Revelene님이 먼저 게시:

He'll be complaining of ear fatigue in no time (thanks to the terrible treble response and high harmonic distortion). That, or connection issues. These are two of the biggest complaints I see for these headsets.

Proberly wont. He proberly will think that the headset is amazing as all the reviews staked which was written by people that have no reference sound to compare it with.

TheRandomGuy님이 먼저 게시:

Also OP, you could try looking at Sennheiser headsets. I can't personally speak for them, but given what I've seen from reviews and such, they make high quality audiophile headphones and seem to be a company that knows audio well. There aren't many headsets under 100 I don't think though, but they do make audiophile grade headphones, so if you do want a decent pair of high quality headphones, you could look at either Sennheiser's audiophile grade products like the HD series (I believe the HD 280s are under 100), or you could try Sennheiser's gaming headsets, like the GSP 300 for instance.

Which is an exact good example. People read reviews and buy, then they compare the sound with the sound of their previos 10$ headphones and ofc think they sound amazing.
Most people think stuff sound good because they never actually listend with good headphones.

And no Just because Sennheiser makies some good audiophile headphones that doesnt mean they are selling only good products. In fact at a 100$ price range I would rather look at Beyerdynamic, AKG or Audio technica befor Sennheiser. Good Sennheisers start at 150-200$. But even at 150$ range the Beyerdynamic DT 770, 880 or 990 are imo the best bet. But thats in the end up to each individual which comes back to the standard recommendation: Visit a Hi-Fi Store and etst listend on your own.

[CordisDia]

Revelene님이 먼저 게시:

DocGangrena님이 먼저 게시:

Revelene, after multiple advices,suggestions and consultations here in steam forum, i bought Sennheiser Momentum 2.0 wireless.
Now when you say buying good headphones is long term investment, gotta say i read a lot of good things about V-moda crossfade M-100, but there is no place in Croatia where i could test it, and that model was relased in 2013, i though it might be outdated for today standards . What do you think, is that V-moda relevant compared to headphones of similiar price range

Momentum 2.0 is a good choice, though I'm not a fan of wireless (due to compression).

What do you suppose is "outdated"? I still use vintage headphones, too. This isn't like computer hardware. Relevant? Absolutely. One of the best headphones for anyone who likes bass, at any price point. One of the only headphones that I've found that has a solid response across the entire low end. Usually you have some drop off, but not with the M-100.

If you like the M-100's (Crossfade), they do have two other iterations which are wireless, the Crossfade wireless and Crossfade 2.

You picked a good pair of headphones, don't worry. Compared to the M-100, they are actually quite similar. It has a very similar solid response across the entire low end. It does a bit better in the lower mids as well. However, the M-100 don't roll off as much at the higher treble. Overall, you picked one of the few good headphones for bass listening. Not sure if that was your intention, but they do it exceptionally well. I'd recommend an amp to really unlock that bad boy, of course using it in wired mode.

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OP, see? Save up some money and you can have a great pair of heaphone that'll last you years. Heck, I've been bumping my M-100's for 4 years now and they are still like brand new. I even have some headphones that would be considered vintage. If you can stop that order, I'd really recommend it. No sense buying headphones from a gaming company... buy from an audio company that actually knows audio.

Well, i dont know, i was hoping you will tell me definition of "outdated". Probably newer drivers are better than older ones, and makes difference.
On some comparasion sites, i also saw that V-Moda lacks some features if we compare it to my new Sennheiser, or some Sony models i've been interested in ...

[Talby]

hmm not sure someone who's looking at a HyperX Stinger is even going to consider something like a Senn Momentum 2 which is 8x the cost :/

Plenty of budget options, here's a very good list of sub $50 choices:

Tascam TH-02
Monoprice 8323 (removable cable w/ standard 1/8" TRS jack and w/ inline mic cable from monoprice only)
Samson SR850 (semi-open)
LyxPro HAS-10
MDR-7502
Edifier H840
Edifier P841 (w/ inline mic)
LyxPro HAS-15 (removable cable w/ standard 1/8" TRS jack)
ATH-M20x

Every one of those can become a DIY headset by simply getting an add-on mic like the Zalman ZM-Mic1 for ~$7 and some notable exceptions / alternatives above - some have an in-line mic that also uses a TRRS plug which can be converted to PC use by getting a TRRS/mic/headphone Y adaper for about ~$6. Great solution for anyone who wants a single headset for use with both PC and mobile device.

[Revelene]

tacoshy님이 먼저 게시:

Revelene님이 먼저 게시:

He'll be complaining of ear fatigue in no time (thanks to the terrible treble response and high harmonic distortion). That, or connection issues. These are two of the biggest complaints I see for these headsets.

Proberly wont. He proberly will think that the headset is amazing as all the reviews staked which was written by people that have no reference sound to compare it with.

Yeah, that might be what happens.

DocGangrena님이 먼저 게시:

Well, i dont know, i was hoping you will tell me definition of "outdated". Probably newer drivers are better than older ones, and makes difference.
On some comparasion sites, i also saw that V-Moda lacks some features if we compare it to my new Sennheiser, or some Sony models i've been interested in ...

Drivers new and old can sound good. Nothing has changed much with basic driver design. You have 3 different types of drivers for headphones. Dynamic (which is what every single headphone mentioned here has been so far), planar magnetic, and electrostatic.

As far as "features", I'm not sure what they could be referencing. Wireless? Bluetooth? Make you coffee? As I said before, I avoid all that wireless garbage compressing my audio.

Headphones are headphones, and rather simple in nature. It is all about the playback of audio. At the end of the day, what matters most is the frequency response, total harmonic distortion, sound stage, and imaging.

[CordisDia]

Revelene님이 먼저 게시:

DocGangrena님이 먼저 게시:

Well, i dont know, i was hoping you will tell me definition of "outdated". Probably newer drivers are better than older ones, and makes difference.
On some comparasion sites, i also saw that V-Moda lacks some features if we compare it to my new Sennheiser, or some Sony models i've been interested in ...

Drivers new and old can sound good. Nothing has changed much with basic driver design. You have 3 different types of drivers for headphones. Dynamic (which is what every single headphone mentioned here has been so far), planar magnetic, and electrostatic.

As far as "features", I'm not sure what they could be referencing. Wireless? Bluetooth? Make you coffee? As I said before, I avoid all that wireless garbage compressing my audio.

Headphones are headphones, and rather simple in nature. It is all about the playback of audio. At the end of the day, what matters most is the frequency response, total harmonic distortion, sound stage, and imaging.

Although i bought wireless version, im still not sure does wireless headphones, when connected with wire, will have same sound quality as headphones that are strictly wired ? I also read something about neodymium magnets - i've been told it might be nice to have .

Vendor in store told me sound quality might be different among different phone brands and models.I intend to use momentum outdoors, and vendor in store said Huawei phones will work smoothly with momentum .....

[PATENT]

T2 | Just Steve님이 먼저 게시:

Revelene님이 먼저 게시:

Don't fall for gaming headsets. Spend your money wiser.

Surround in headsets are simulated, not real surround. Just stereo headphones. Any stereo headphones can playback simulated surround. Go look up virtual surround. You can do it right now, with any stereo headphones, earbuds, speakers, anything.

I'd recommend getting a quality pair of headphones and a mic. If your choices here reflect your budget, then I'd assume your budget is under $100 USD.

I'd also probably recommend waiting a bit longer, if you cannot spend more at this time. I say this because audio can be like an investment. If you spend more, you can hold on to higher quality hardware for longer. No sense in buying new audio hardware every year or so when you actually buy something of great quality that'll last you many years.

Ye i thought about that but then realised i have no patients what so ever so bought the hyper x cloud stinger, thx for the help anyways

atleast you made right decision, all razer headsets are made of plastic, razer has great mouses and keyboards but their headsets are terrible

[Revelene]

DocGangrena님이 먼저 게시:

Revelene님이 먼저 게시:

Drivers new and old can sound good. Nothing has changed much with basic driver design. You have 3 different types of drivers for headphones. Dynamic (which is what every single headphone mentioned here has been so far), planar magnetic, and electrostatic.

As far as "features", I'm not sure what they could be referencing. Wireless? Bluetooth? Make you coffee? As I said before, I avoid all that wireless garbage compressing my audio.

Headphones are headphones, and rather simple in nature. It is all about the playback of audio. At the end of the day, what matters most is the frequency response, total harmonic distortion, sound stage, and imaging.

Although i bought wireless version, im still not sure does wireless headphones, when connected with wire, will have same sound quality as headphones that are strictly wired ? I also read something about neodymium magnets - i've been told it might be nice to have .

Vendor in store told me sound quality might be different among different phone brands and models.I intend to use momentum outdoors, and vendor in store said Huawei phones will work smoothly with momentum .....

While the magnet type can be important to a point, just having a specifc magnet is meaningless. There is a lot more to factor in. This is not something one should even be worried about when considering headphones. The magnet is made to spec. It does the job, and if not, it shows on the specs and output charts.

If you use the wireless headphones in wired mode, the quality all depends on how they designed the headset. If it completely bypasses the wireless chipset, then the quality should be unaffected, but if it even take a route on the board that could cause any interference, then it won't be as good as the wired version.

[Stixx]

Well guys i bought the hyperx cloud stinger today but there's a problem: so the sound and all is good and my friends say my voice quality is way better but there's a "bzzzzzz" in the background of it that prob has to do something with my pc and could i fix that fix a 3.5 mm adapter to usb?

[Talby]

try swapping the front panel audio jacks and the rear audio jacks and see if that helps. If not then yes a usb sound card would be a quick resolve.

[zerub]

Peabrain님이 먼저 게시:

Without even looking at specs I'd go HyperX. Never had a Razer headset but havent had much luck look with razer keyboard and mouse. Whereas I love my hyperx cloud2, good quality and reliable.

I have the cloud II's too and im wondering why i have a problem telling where enemy footsteps are coming from do you know a fix for that?

[Revelene]

static®님이 먼저 게시:

Peabrain님이 먼저 게시:

Without even looking at specs I'd go HyperX. Never had a Razer headset but havent had much luck look with razer keyboard and mouse. Whereas I love my hyperx cloud2, good quality and reliable.

I have the cloud II's too and im wondering why i have a problem telling where enemy footsteps are coming from do you know a fix for that?

That is due to them having a poor sound stage, something that cannot really be fixed.

[Stixx]

Revelene님이 먼저 게시:

static®님이 먼저 게시:

I have the cloud II's too and im wondering why i have a problem telling where enemy footsteps are coming from do you know a fix for that?

That is due to them having a poor sound stage, something that cannot really be fixed.

Isn't there an app for that? I know you can use the razer synapse app but you'll need a code I believe

[Revelene]

T2 | Just Steve님이 먼저 게시:

Revelene님이 먼저 게시:

That is due to them having a poor sound stage, something that cannot really be fixed.

Isn't there an app for that? I know you can use the razer synapse app but you'll need a code I believe

Sound stage is part of physical design. The ability of the drivers, and their enclosure, to deliver a realistic sound stage.

Open back do this the best, but lack in low end frequency response. Closed back tend to have the worse sound stage, but the best lower end frequency response. You can also find many designs that are in and between these designs. The rest of what makes a sound stage is up to the driver and how it replicates.