Would this be a good computer w/ overclock possible?

[ZakArcher]

Motherboard: MSI Z370-A PRO
CPU: i5 8400 2.8ghz @ 4.0ghz
CPU Cooler : stock
RAM : 8 gb ddr4 2666mhz (2x4)
GPU: Evga SC gtx 1060 6gb
Storage : 2 TB Seagate HDD
PSU : Evga 500 watts psu
Case : Phanteks p400s w/ tempered glass

So.. is this good for overclocking or is there something wrong ? Thanks !

[CursedPanther]

Without the K version of the CPU, you won't be OCing.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

You need K version CPU and good CPU cooler. MSI Z370-A PRO is not good overclocker, would not count getting high overclock with it, too cheap Z370.
With setup like this you are better off with i5-8400, B360 mobo and 2x8 GB 2666 Mhz.

[ZakArcher]

Messaggio originale di Rumpelcrutchskin:

You need K version CPU and good CPU cooler. MSI Z370-A PRO is not good overclocker, would not count getting high overclock with it, too cheap Z370.
With setup like this you are better off with i5-8400, B360 mobo and 2x8 GB 2666 Mhz.

Ok thanks but is « turbo » the same thing as overclocking, I saw that it could get to 4ghz ? Also, it’s impossible I can get 16 gb ram prices :x

[CursedPanther]

Messaggio originale di Professor G.:

Messaggio originale di Rumpelcrutchskin:

You need K version CPU and good CPU cooler. MSI Z370-A PRO is not good overclocker, would not count getting high overclock with it, too cheap Z370.
With setup like this you are better off with i5-8400, B360 mobo and 2x8 GB 2666 Mhz.

Ok thanks but is « turbo » the same thing as overclocking, I saw that it could get to 4ghz ? Also, it’s impossible I can get 16 gb ram prices :x

Technically yes. Intel designs its chips to push a bit further without extra manual input.

[hawkeye]

The cpu is overkill for the gpu so overclocking would probably be a waste of effort anyway.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Messaggio originale di Professor G.:

Ok thanks but is « turbo » the same thing as overclocking, I saw that it could get to 4ghz ? Also, it’s impossible I can get 16 gb ram prices :x

Turbo is not same thing, when turbo is enabled in BIOS the CPU will automatically push the Ghz up to 4.0 Ghz depending on the need like when running some game for instance.
When overclocking the GHz is pushed over the turbo level to some fixed Ghz and stays there.
i5-8400 is still very good medium budget gaming CPU, basicly same performance as stock speed i7-7700K.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Messaggio originale di Professor G.:

Also, it’s impossible I can get 16 gb ram prices :x

Not that impossible if you go with cheaper B360 motherboard and cheaper case:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pbXNzY

[[☥] - CJ -]

Turbo is in essence what would be considered a "Limited Automatic Overclock"

Its still an Overclock, but one that the CPU was meant to handle without any extra effort from the user.

a User based overclock would be going above the Turbos clocks.

[ZakArcher]

Messaggio originale di Rumpelcrutchskin:

Messaggio originale di Professor G.:

Also, it’s impossible I can get 16 gb ram prices :x

Not that impossible if you go with cheaper B360 motherboard and cheaper case:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pbXNzY

Ok thanks, but I don’t understand the difference beetween the z370 and the z360, can you explain ?

btw, thanks to everybody’ for the replies, I read them all

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Messaggio originale di Professor G.:

Messaggio originale di Rumpelcrutchskin:

Not that impossible if you go with cheaper B360 motherboard and cheaper case:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pbXNzY

Ok thanks, but I don’t understand the difference beetween the z370 and the z360, can you explain ?

Z370 is overclocking chipset, those motherboards have VRM shields for cooling, more PCI-E lanes etc. Altough cheapest end Z370 are not very good at this, something like $180+ range is much better.
B360 is for CPUs that cant be overclocked like i3-8100 to i7-8700, since you cant overclock those CPUs anyway there is little point for big VRM shields and stuff like that so those boards are cheaper.
It will still get that i5-8400 to its 4.0 Ghz turbo frequency fine.
Best to go for four RAM slots version so you have more options with RAM upgrades in future if need should arise.

[ZakArcher]

Messaggio originale di Rumpelcrutchskin:

Messaggio originale di Professor G.:

Ok thanks, but I don’t understand the difference beetween the z370 and the z360, can you explain ?

Z370 is overclocking chipset, those motherboards have VRM shields for cooling, more PCI-E lanes etc. Altough cheapest end Z370 are not very good at this, something like $180+ range is much better.
B360 is for CPUs that cant be overclocked like i3-8100 to i7-8700, since you cant overclock those CPUs anyway there is little point for big VRM shields and stuff like that so those boards are cheaper.
It will still get that i5-8400 to its 4.0 Ghz turbo frequency fine.
Best to go for four RAM slots version so you have more options with RAM upgrades in future if need should arise.

Thank you very much for this answer ! That actually helped me because in Canada, (idk if in the us too) that motherboard is cheaper than the z370 and will perform as good as the 370 if I understood that message. My question is about the case, let’s say I’ll buy the phanteks p400s eclipse w/ tempered glass, do I need to buy fans or the fans included will be enough ?

[Monk]

Turbo boost is also single core, not all core, though if the motherboard has MCE (multi core enhancement) it can boost all cores to the turbo frequency in a psudo-OC.
I'd go with8GB to begin with and save and add extra RAM later over dropping g down to a B series motherboard, as the Z series will make it cheaper and easier to upgrade later.

[Arya]

For overclocking a PC you need three things.

An Intel K-Series CPU. That means an Intel i5 8600K or an i7 8700K. These are the only Intel CPUs currently on sale that can be overclocked. AMD CPUs can be overclocked, but there's no point try because they're barely capable of it.

An Intel Z370 Motherboard. These provide the tools and the VRM cooling needed to Overclock. Don't skimp, you need a serious $200+ motherboard with quality caps, VRM cooling and more.

And a monster CPU cooler. Overclocking is basically the act of trading heat and electricity for power. All that heat has to go somewhere, I would say a Noctua NH-D15 or midsize Custom Loop for either of those CPUs.

I can also seriously recommend a De-Lidding kit. Intel has terrible internal TIM for their CPUs. Replacing that with Liquid Metal will massively increase cooling, letting you OC harder at lower temperatures.

[Monk]

*cough* i3 8350k *cough*
Also the mid range boards in the 160-170 range mostly have all the features you need to OC with solid vrm's and plenty of features, going beyond that tends to just add fancy extras, that, honestly, most won't use.

[Arya]

Messaggio originale di Monk:

*cough* i3 8350k *cough*
Also the mid range boards in the 160-170 range mostly have all the features you need to OC with solid vrm's and plenty of features, going beyond that tends to just add fancy extras, that, honestly, most won't use.

They make an i3 K-series? Wow. Half of me wants to squee at the cute 'lil baby overclocker, and part of me wants to scoff at the effort and cost involved in overclocking such a runt. Presumably it's a continuation i5 7600K or something like that?