i5 8400 vs ryzen 1600

[Recon]

Which one will last longer for gaming?

[igloosfolly]

Throw a dart they are the same.

[Arya]

Messaggio originale di igloosfolly:

Throw a dart they are the same.

Hardly.

Ryzen 1600s aren't in production anymore AFAIK. AMD's moved to Ryzen 1.2 with a 2XXX monika. There's a slight IPC increase, slightly better clocks and slightly newer boards to go with it. You're better off with that.

[King_BR0K]

I'd go for the i5
Old i5s are still good

[Arya]

Messaggio originale di AKing1:

I'd go for the i5
Old i5s are still good

That's not an old i5. 8400 means Gen-8. It's only been on the market a few months.

[CursedPanther]

Here's a detailed comparison of the 1600 against 8400:
https://www.techspot.com/review/1608-core-i5-8400-vs-ryzen-5-1600-best-value/

[igloosfolly]

They asked about a 5-1600 that can be overclocked vs I5-8400 that cannont be. Yep they just stopped making 5-1600 and it is on sale for as little as 150 bucks with some searching. The 8400 is 5 months newer. Either way you get a good chip on equal ground so yeah throw a dart.

[InfinityJosh]

AMD has a better cooler.
Go for it.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Messaggio originale di igloosfolly:

They asked about a 5-1600 that can be overclocked vs I5-8400 that cannont be. Yep they just stopped making 5-1600 and it is on sale for as little as 150 bucks with some searching. The 8400 is 5 months newer. Either way you get a good chip on equal ground so yeah throw a dart.

i5-8400 cant be overclocked but it has turbo frequency up to 4.0 Ghz, same performance as not overclocked i7-7700K in gaming.
Even if you overclock Ryzen 5 1600 as much as it goes (and that's not much really since they are not good overclockers) the i5-8400 usually ends up being better in gaming.

[King_BR0K]

Messaggio originale di Wolfey:

Messaggio originale di AKing1:

I'd go for the i5
Old i5s are still good

That's not an old i5. 8400 means Gen-8. It's only been on the market a few months.

I know
I'm saying old i5s are still good so a new one will last a while

[f_dog80]

Messaggio originale di Infinity Josh:

AMD has a better cooler.
Go for it.

The box cooler is NOT a deciding factor. An after market cooler is cheap.
I'd go for the i5.

[igloosfolly]

Dont let the stock cooler of the AMD be a deciding factor it is basicly a a cheapo AM2-3 with a fan. I threw mine away just as I would for a stock Intel one. Choose based on the best bang for the buck motherboard and go from there. For AMD you want a xa370 for better Bios so you can fine tune your ram to get the most from the infinity fabric of the cpu. Yes the Intel does better in single threaded games a moot point moving into the future.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Well first off, why even look towards the direction of Ryzen Gen1; it's sorely surpassed and over-shadowed by the Ryzen Gen2; which is an easy 10-30% gains over the Gen1, at around the same or lesser price-points.

If you are looking at Intel 8th Gen; look a i3-8350K, 8600K, or 8700K, none of the others.

Never use stock coolers, period. Always buy a good one, something even around $25-40 could be more than enough for most CPUs of around the 95W TDP range or less (a good heatpipe tower w/ 120mm fan) and keep such CPUs well below 75*C instead of hovering near their max, which is what the stock coolers will do.

[upcoast]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fd_GXFBUtk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8uWMUD_-z0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rueFkJavYKk

Clock for clock ^ and gtx980ti is on par with gtx1070.

I'd choose neither and go straight to the 2600x.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Yes, 2400G, 2600X or 2700X is really all you should consider; if looking at Ryzen.
2400G will match a 1600 in CPU performance. Forget Gen1, it's dead.
Just remember; stay away from the cheaper boards and RAM, it will get you nothing but troubles. B350 / X370 boards are ok, as long as good rounded features and already ship to you with the BIOS already updated. Again stick to RAM that has Samsung Chips onboard, like GSkill TridentZ does.

[InfinityJosh]

Messaggio originale di Bad_Motha:

Yes, 2400G, 2600X or 2700X is really all you should consider.
2400G will match a 1600 in CPU performance. Forget Gen1, it's dead.

A 1600 if under $150.00 is not a bad buy but it requires faster RAM to perform as an Intel 8400.