vinegar 1 abr. 2018 às 18:40
Cpu
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core i5 7400 @ 3.00GHz 35 °C
Kaby Lake 14nm Technology
RAM
8.00GB Single-Channel Unknown @ 1197MHz (17-17-17-39)
Motherboard
HP 82F1 (U3E1) 37 °C
Graphics
SAMSUNG (3840x2160@60Hz)
3071MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB (HP) 36 °C
Storage
931GB Western Digital WDC WD10EZEX-60WN4A0 (SATA) 33 °C
Optical Drives
hp HLDS DVDRW GUD1N
Audio
NVIDIA High Definition Audio

so iv been thinking of upgrading and a gpu is way to expensive so i found a cpu on amazon for $269 for a Intel 7th Gen Intel Core Desktop Processor i7-7700K (BX80677I77700K) but its just the cpu what do you think should i wait about a year to upgrade??
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⛧EyMi Mayhem⛧ 1 abr. 2018 às 19:09 
Originalmente postado por Nelo:
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core i5 7400 @ 3.00GHz 35 °C
Kaby Lake 14nm Technology
RAM
8.00GB Single-Channel Unknown @ 1197MHz (17-17-17-39)
Motherboard
HP 82F1 (U3E1) 37 °C
Graphics
SAMSUNG (3840x2160@60Hz)
3071MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB (HP) 36 °C
Storage
931GB Western Digital WDC WD10EZEX-60WN4A0 (SATA) 33 °C
Optical Drives
hp HLDS DVDRW GUD1N
Audio
NVIDIA High Definition Audio

so iv been thinking of upgrading and a gpu is way to expensive so i found a cpu on amazon for $269 for a Intel 7th Gen Intel Core Desktop Processor i7-7700K (BX80677I77700K) but its just the cpu what do you think should i wait about a year to upgrade??

Not rly the best combo since the hp has a h170 mobo.

Will work, but no oc feature coz of the h170 chipset for intel non-k cpu's and you need a bios update (check hp's homepage) to run kabylake on skylake mobos.


But according to your games, u don't rly need the i7, so I would save the money for a better gpu since you play @ 3840x2160 and maybe more ram.

Your money, up to you.
vinegar 1 abr. 2018 às 19:15 
Originalmente postado por ⛧EyMi Mayhem⛧:
Originalmente postado por Nelo:
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core i5 7400 @ 3.00GHz 35 °C
Kaby Lake 14nm Technology
RAM
8.00GB Single-Channel Unknown @ 1197MHz (17-17-17-39)
Motherboard
HP 82F1 (U3E1) 37 °C
Graphics
SAMSUNG (3840x2160@60Hz)
3071MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB (HP) 36 °C
Storage
931GB Western Digital WDC WD10EZEX-60WN4A0 (SATA) 33 °C
Optical Drives
hp HLDS DVDRW GUD1N
Audio
NVIDIA High Definition Audio

so iv been thinking of upgrading and a gpu is way to expensive so i found a cpu on amazon for $269 for a Intel 7th Gen Intel Core Desktop Processor i7-7700K (BX80677I77700K) but its just the cpu what do you think should i wait about a year to upgrade??

Not rly the best combo since the hp has a h170 mobo.

Will work, but no oc feature coz of the h170 chipset for intel non-k cpu's and you need a bios update (check hp's homepage) to run kabylake on skylake mobos.


But according to your games, u don't rly need the i7, so I would save the money for a better gpu since you play @ 3840x2160 and maybe more ram.

Your money, up to you.
this is a pre built omen pc i believe the mother board is a odence 2-k
Rumpelcrutchskin 1 abr. 2018 às 19:25 
Originalmente postado por Nelo:
this is a pre built omen pc i believe the mother board is a odence 2-k

H170 uATX motherboard with two RAM slots, i7-7700K will work but you cant overclock it.
vinegar 1 abr. 2018 às 19:35 
Originalmente postado por Rumpelcrutchskin:
Originalmente postado por Nelo:
this is a pre built omen pc i believe the mother board is a odence 2-k

H170 uATX motherboard with two RAM slots, i7-7700K will work but you cant overclock it.
HP 82F1 is the mother board is that what your refering to
Not necessarily worth to overclock anyway.

But yeah. It clock higher and have hyperthreading support so it is better. Whatever you need it I don't know. Eventually you should be able to get a used one for a decent price. Maybe non-K is available for a price which suit you better? You won't really lose anything by waiting because either you can get it cheaper or upgrade to something even better.

The 3000-series of Ryzen I'd assume to also be better per core.

You need to figure out if the cpu speed bothers you I guess.

And really B450 + Ryzen 2600 may be available for almost the same price and then you have another two cores and your old mobo + cpu is still useful.
Última alteração por Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism; 1 abr. 2018 às 19:37
Rumpelcrutchskin 1 abr. 2018 às 19:47 
Originalmente postado por Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism:

And really B450 + Ryzen 2600 may be available for almost the same price and then you have another two cores and your old mobo + cpu is still useful.

He has HP premade with small uATX motherboard, that means crap small case with bad ventilation and limited upgrade options plus some trash PSU that can just about hold up the GTX 1060. Not really good option to start swapping out motherboards and using more powerful graphics cards.
i7-7700K and 2x8 GB 2400 Mhz DDR4 RAM is pretty much all you can do with it without going into too much hassle that would leave it better to just build entirely new PC.
Those small-form-factor premade PCs are bad choice when considering upgrade options for future.
Arya 1 abr. 2018 às 19:49 
Not worth spending the money. CPUs are an odd upgrade, you only notice the performance gain in some games. And none of the games you play are CPU-dependant enough for it to matter.

And I should warn you, upgrading a prebuilt PC like this can be a nightmare. The main problem is the Power Supply Unit(PSU). It regulates power flow to the other parts, and it's rated for a specific wattage and below. Prebuilds usually have very cheap PSUs, and that sorely limits the spec you can reach. Bolting a bigger CPU or GPU can push the PSU out of specced wattage, and cause an electrical fault. Which can destroy the entire system, or even cause a fire.

The solution is just to bolt a better PSU on the back. That isn't expensive and you can easily do it yourself. The problem you then face is actually getting the PSU into the case - again Prebuild cases are designed for one spec only. And their PSU brackets usually aren't compatible with aftermarket.
vinegar 1 abr. 2018 às 19:56 
Originalmente postado por Wolfey:
Not worth spending the money. CPUs are an odd upgrade, you only notice the performance gain in some games. And none of the games you play are CPU-dependant enough for it to matter.

And I should warn you, upgrading a prebuilt PC like this can be a nightmare. The main problem is the Power Supply Unit(PSU). It regulates power flow to the other parts, and it's rated for a specific wattage and below. Prebuilds usually have very cheap PSUs, and that sorely limits the spec you can reach. Bolting a bigger CPU or GPU can push the PSU out of specced wattage, and cause an electrical fault. Which can destroy the entire system, or even cause a fire.

The solution is just to bolt a better PSU on the back. That isn't expensive and you can easily do it yourself. The problem you then face is actually getting the PSU into the case - again Prebuild cases are designed for one spec only. And their PSU brackets usually aren't compatible with aftermarket.
should i try to return my prebuild pc and if that works build my own??
Arya 1 abr. 2018 às 19:59 
Originalmente postado por Nelo:
should i try to return my prebuild pc and if that works build my own??

I wouldn't. Just know that when you do decide to upgrade it, you'll probably need to upgrade your case and PSU as well. That won't be terribly expensive, but you'll almost certainly have to do it.
vinegar 1 abr. 2018 às 20:04 
Originalmente postado por Wolfey:
Originalmente postado por Nelo:
should i try to return my prebuild pc and if that works build my own??

I wouldn't. Just know that when you do decide to upgrade it, you'll probably need to upgrade your case and PSU as well. That won't be terribly expensive, but you'll almost certainly have to do it.
so this is pc is not limited it just needs massive upgrades??
Rumpelcrutchskin 1 abr. 2018 às 20:11 
Originalmente postado por Nelo:
so this is pc is not limited it just needs massive upgrades??

It's decent enough for one 1080p monitor, can run most stuff no problem. If you want to use it with 4K monitor then yeah it will be lacking and could use i7 or Ryzen 7 CPU with 16 GB of RAM and GTX 1080 or 1080 Ti.
Última alteração por Rumpelcrutchskin; 1 abr. 2018 às 20:12
vinegar 1 abr. 2018 às 20:18 
Originalmente postado por Rumpelcrutchskin:
Originalmente postado por Nelo:
so this is pc is not limited it just needs massive upgrades??

It's decent enough for one 1080p monitor, can run most stuff no problem. If you want to use it with 4K monitor then yeah it will be lacking and could use i7 or Ryzen 7 CPU with 16 GB of RAM and GTX 1080 or 1080 Ti.
i want to make it stronger then maybe a ps4 pro it doesnt have to hit 4k yet but i would like to play ultra or high with almost no frame dips
Última alteração por vinegar; 1 abr. 2018 às 20:19
Rumpelcrutchskin 1 abr. 2018 às 21:20 
If you think you can get your money back for that HP premade then prob best to build a new rig:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MtWCbX

Or if you want serious 4K gaming rig:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nsmvnH

Arya 1 abr. 2018 às 23:40 
I wouldn't upgrade anything.

4K looks amazing on paper, but doesn't deliver in reality. To actually benefit from 4K you need quite a large screen, because of issues of Pixel Density. I'd say at least 32 inches. The other problem as you've seen is Framerate, and there's no silver bullet for that. 4K puts extreme strain on your GPU, some games will overwhelm even a GTX1080Ti or Titan X Pascal at that resolution.

It's just not worth the money right now. And even once GPUs have caught up, it'll still likely be an expensive luxury with questionable merits for the average gamer.

With that said, I would focus on 1080P for now. Either lower your Screen Resolution or buy a 1080P monitor. Although your system can't handle 4K, it should work well enough at lower resolutions.

As far as major upgrades go, you're looking at replacing this system rather than upgrading it. Every major upgrade you'd want to do would require some kind of chassis upgrade to make it possible. Fitting a better CPU would necessitate a better Motherboard, fitting a better GPU would need a better Case and Power Supply. Replacing both would effectively mean building an entirely new system, so if you're serious about upgrading you should sell what you have and start fresh.

That's the problem with Prebuilds. Often times when it comes to upgrades, you realize the core systems are junk and need to be replaced. Prebuilds always cut corners on Motherboards, Cases, PSUs and Cooling. It gets sales and makes a working PC, but it doesn't create a platform for upgrades.
Última alteração por Arya; 1 abr. 2018 às 23:40
Monk 1 abr. 2018 às 23:45 
Originalmente postado por Nelo:
Originalmente postado por Rumpelcrutchskin:

It's decent enough for one 1080p monitor, can run most stuff no problem. If you want to use it with 4K monitor then yeah it will be lacking and could use i7 or Ryzen 7 CPU with 16 GB of RAM and GTX 1080 or 1080 Ti.
i want to make it stronger then maybe a ps4 pro it doesnt have to hit 4k yet but i would like to play ultra or high with almost no frame dips

It already is more powerful than a PS4 pro or an Xbox Xbox, they run games at a mix of low medium and some high settings and usually only at 30fps with a fair few dips.
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