Bad Benchmarks with my new GTX 1060 (6GB) gpu - Anyone an idea why?

[Kirami]

Hey guys,
so a couple days ago I assembled for the first time a new gaming PC.

Everything went smooth in the building process.
Though I am not satisfied with the Benchmark tests of my graphic card.

I did multiple tests with different Benchmark test tools.

Here is one for example: http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/8077000

There you can see my specs as well.

Why is my card performing below average? Nvidia drivers are up to date and I didn't install anything else other than steam yet. While I ran the tests I had no backround programs running in task manager other than Cortana.

I run windows 10.

I also did a test on the Unigine Heaven 4.0 benchmark.
And my results there are horrible:

Ultra 1080p, 8xAA, Vsync On - Score: 1064
Same with Vsync Off - Score: 1501

I compared it online with some ohter people posting their results on various forums and their scores all ranged between 2000-3200.


How can this be? I've got 16 GB ram, a ryzen 5 1600 cpu & a GTX 1060 6gb gpu.
And yet I can't run a game like TW: Shogun 2 without getting FPS lag in battles.

Is the card maybe damaged? Shall I return it?
Would love to hear any advices, since I am qutie a noob in this matter.

[[☥] - CJ -]

On the other hand..
your RAM results on that benchmark are kinda sketchy compared to mine with regard to latency..

[Kirami]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Monk:

I won't comment on your CPU, as I've not done it myself, but as I said, worse case, it won't boot and you turn it down.

For the GPU the cards basic fan curve should ramp up with the temperature, though if you wish to customise it or run it at max at the expense of volume to keep things cooler, you can do so in MSI afterburner as well.

Everyone's guide to hope to overclock will differ slightly, some take a more slow and detailed approach, others faster, I find my way the quickest and easiest to get to reliable overclock with out taking days, once you know your individual silicon's limit, that is when you can begin to fine tune, as no two cards or CPU's are exactly the same, I've had 7 1080ti's all of them reached different clocks at different offsets, my current pair one us at +140 the other only +80 to achieve the same 2088 max boost with an operational clock of 2076MHz, this was with sequentially numbered pairs of cards (I had numbers 11/12, 15/16, 20/21 and 23), the closest matching silicon I've ever seen us my old 980's with both cards hitting the exact same frequency at the exact same increaes, so don't worry if you don't get the same numbers as someone else, it's all down to silicon lottery at the end of the day.

Edit.

For fan headers you can use splitters or a fan controller, a powered splitter (usually with 6 headers) would be the best option so as to not drop the fans speed by splitting the power.

So is it fine if I only overclock my GPU for the start? Or may there be some complications?


'''it's all down to silicon lottery at the end of the day. '''
I didn't know that. So basically it depends on the individual piece & how well it was assembled in the production process.

May I ask you, if this is your hobby? Or do you work in the IT area?

[[☥] - CJ -]

You can OC your GPU just fine
But start off with a few Mhz at a time

it would probably be best for you to check out a review for your GPU and see what the reviewer attempted for the OC then you can go for something similar or a little lower.

But yeah, id start with OC'ing the GPU first.

[Kirami]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από ☥ - CJ -:

Dont bother with Voltage unless you know what you're doing.

For the fans, generally speaking 3pin fans can only be controlled via a fan controller, otherwise its the 4pin fans that by default can be controlled via the motherboard.

This is my results for the benchmark http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/8079811 compared to yours http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/8077000

It basically comes down to how your PC is configured, but both my CPU/GPU and RAM are OC'd, so thats possibly where one of the differences comes from.
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All in all, dont use graphic settings that go beyond a GTX 1060's capabilities.
And theres also the possibility that some apps/games may not like Ryzens.

Yeah, interesting to see your benchmark.
Did you change the voltage for the overclocking?

About the fan pins, I have the 3pins only.

[Monk]

Technically did a degree years ago but it's more of just a hobby these days. You are perfectly fine only overclocking one or the other, but to get the most out of your system, overclocking both will help.

As you need this for work, stability is the most important aspect, so perhaps pull both CPU and GPU clocks back one extra step to be in the safe side, a stable oc should be fine regardless, but, when it comes to work, better safe than sorry, for the GPU you can set upto 5 presets, so you can have one at stock for work and another higher for gaming at apush if a button.

Edit.

Yeah silicon lottery is just the variance between the actual wafers the chips are built upon, if your lucky you get a 'golden' chip that will hit high speeds at low temps, my 7900X is pretty damn good, probably top 3-5%, but I had a 1080ti that could of become a record holder, on air it would boost to 2150MHz, which, is frankly insane (like probably top 0.01%of chips), when 2100MHz is a pretty hard limit even water cooled needing LN2 to go higher for the most part, sadly, it had bad memory and suffered loads of artifacting even at stock due to bad Vram so I had to RMA it :(

[[☥] - CJ -]

As far as i know the voltage wasnt touched if at all for the CPU, i auto overclocked it in the BIOS.

For the GPU, i didnt personally mess with the voltage, only just what Afterburner does when raising the power limit.

[Kirami]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Monk:

Technically did a degree years ago but it's more of just a hobby these days. You are perfectly fine only overclocking one or the other, but to get the most out of your system, overclocking both will help.

As you need this for work, stability is the most important aspect, so perhaps pull both CPU and GPU clocks back one extra step to be in the safe side, a stable oc should be fine regardless, but, when it comes to work, better safe than sorry, for the GPU you can set upto 5 presets, so you can have one at stock for work and another higher for gaming at apush if a button.

Good, good.

Then I will focus on the GPU & RAM first. And at the end try the CPU.
Hopefully I can increase the performance at last, because to me the current performance doesn't seem to be worth 1000 € +.


Edit:

Man what are you using your PC's for :D
It seems you can run 5x Witcher 3 on Ultra Settings at the same time with the systems you got.

[Monk]

Overclocking RAM beyond the xmp profile is far harder than CPU or GPU overclocking with far smaller results and ryzen us very picky about RAM, while it makes a difference, the change from 2400 to 3000 will only be around 5fps really, so it's not really worth tampering g with it, infact, it has such a small impact, I don't even mess with it these days.

You know, the same things everyone uses a crazy system for, not it's full potential lol, I saved up for a couple of years, then when I was going to begin building the system (after I bought the gpu's) I came into some unexpected money, so decided to treat myself to an ultimate system, I'd normally spend the money on a motorbike, but medical issues mean I can't ride currently so, crazy pc was next on the list of new toys.

[Kirami]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από ☥ - CJ -:

As far as i know the voltage wasnt touched if at all for the CPU, i auto overclocked it in the BIOS.

For the GPU, i didnt personally mess with the voltage, only just what Afterburner does when raising the power limit.

Ok, good, I will probably approach it the same way.
Basically nothing bad can happen if the voltage is set too low right?

[Monk]

To low won't boot and will !unit the overclock on the CPU, on the GPU, it will simply limit the max speed you can achieve,but, as I said, if you accidentally set it to high, it simply won't boot and will chuck you into the bios once more to fix it.

Keep CPU voltage under 1.35v and you'll be safe.

Interestingly, the auto voltages most CPU"s are set to as stock will often use WAY more voltage than the safe limits overclocking will lock it to, with auto voltages often going into the 1.4-1.5 range at times on stock clocks, auto voltage sucks lol.

Edit.

I am unsure if Vegas uses GPU acceleration of not for rendering g, but the RAM speed will have a very small effect, where as CPU or GPU will have a far larger effect, for RAM you are probably only looking at a few %age difference,while CPU and GPU can have a 10-20% impact on such things.

[Kirami]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Monk:

Overclocking RAM beyond the xmp profile is far harder than CPU or GPU overclocking with far smaller results and ryzen us very picky about RAM, while it makes a difference, the change from 2400 to 3000 will only be around 5fps really, so it's not really worth tampering g with it, infact, it has such a small impact, I don't even mess with it these days.

You know, the same things everyone uses a crazy system for, not it's full potential lol, I saved up for a couple of years, then when I was going to begin building the system (after I bought the gpu's) I came into some unexpected money, so decided to treat myself to an ultimate system, I'd normally spend the money on a motorbike, but medical issues mean I can't ride currently so, crazy pc was next on the list of new toys.

Does it has any notable effect on rendering with a program like sony vegas?
Next to gaming the main purpose of my PC will be video rendering, where I think good RAM is highly important.


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Sorry to hear. I wish you a good recovery.
Some NASA level PC is a smart replacement indeed :D

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Monk:

To low won't boot and will !unit the overclock on the CPU, on the GPU, it will simply limit the max speed you can achieve,but, as I said, if you accidentally set it to high, it simply won't boot and will chuck you into the bios once more to fix it.

Keep CPU voltage under 1.35v and you'll be safe.

Interestingly, the auto voltages most CPU"s are set to as stock will often use WAY more voltage than the safe limits overclocking will lock it to, with auto voltages often going into the 1.4-1.5 range at times on stock clocks, auto voltage sucks lol

Ok, I will keep it below 1.35v then.
Basically I don't need the BIOS at all right if everything works out fine with afterburner?

I can adjust all (or most) I need in afterburner right?


Actually I'm not even sure if my BIOS is up to date.

[Monk]

You overclock the CPU via the bios, doing it via programs in windows is far from reliable.

If you need to update your bios, hopefully your board has an ez-update function, but, when it comes to bios updates, if it's working, leave well enough alone, if you are hideously unlucky and get a power cut as you update or some how it gets corrupted you will brick your motherboard unless it has multiple bios' which tends to only be a feature on very high end boards (not actually sure if even my x299 prime deluxe has multiple bios' options now I think about it).

[Kirami]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Monk:

You overclock the CPU via the bios, doing it via programs in windows is far from reliable.

If you need to update your bios, hopefully your board has an ez-update function, but, when it comes to bios updates, if it's working, leave well enough alone, if you are hideously unlucky and get a power cut as you update or some how it gets corrupted you will brick your motherboard unless it has multiple bios' which tends to only be a feature on very high end boards (not actually sure if even my x299 prime deluxe has multiple bios' options now I think about it).

Ok, I rather won't update it then, maybe its up to date anyway.
So CPU in bios & GPU with msi afterburner.

I'll try it probably in around 2 weeks since I'll be busy coming weekend.

Thank you !
You literally made my day with your help.

[Monk]

No worries, good luck, give us an update when you do :)