Ddr3 cpu with minimal bottleneck when paired with gtx1050ti 4gb

[0nion_man_LV]

I have asked people, all of them suggest me ddr4 cpu but the problem is that i am simply too poor to buy such expensive ram.

What i want to do is upgrade from toasterish a8 7600 to anything else, cheap and good motherboard suggestions with cpu would be cool aswell.


However if you really want to get me to buy ddr4 then good luck finding cpu, mobo and 8gb of ram NEW that fits in 350$ budget.


Thanks in advance.

[Omega]

igloosfolly eredeti hozzászólása:

The 1300x is well worth the extra cash over the other Ryzen 3 line up. Also you can ignore the single thread speed almost all newer games love cores. Grab windeers 10 from somewhere with dx12 support and you will be golden.

Most games are still very much single threaded.

[upcoast]

igloosfolly eredeti hozzászólása:

The 1300x is well worth the extra cash over the other Ryzen 3 line up. Also you can ignore the single thread speed almost all newer games love cores. Grab windeers 10 from somewhere with dx12 support and you will be golden.

Single core speed is still important otherwise how would you measure a cpus speed , fast cores no matter if you've got 1 or 16 it'll still be based on ipc per core.

BF1 DX12 really doesn't respond well to my FX8350 8 core but it plays great on DX11.

https://www.techspot.com/review/1267-battlefield-1-benchmarks/page4.html

That blows your theory to crap ^.

I'll give you DX12 improved Rise of the Tomb Raider though.

[igloosfolly]

Thanks for pointing a two year old article BF 3 and 4 are multi threaded as well as many other AAA games. Games that run on a single core are going away. Windows 10 is a better operating system and it just happens to include DX12. DX12 works great on Deus EX Mankind. Omega put your money where your mouth is and give us some single threaded games from 2017. Go into your bios and disable all but one core and try and play a game. Let me know how that works out for you. Again I said almost all newer games love cores.

[0nion_man_LV]

igloosfolly eredeti hozzászólása:

Thanks for pointing a two year old article BF 3 and 4 are multi threaded as well as many other AAA games. Games that run on a single core are going away. Windows 10 is a better operating system and it just happens to include DX12. DX12 works great on Deus EX Mankind. Omega put your money where your mouth is and give us some single threaded games from 2017. Go into your bios and disable all but one core and try and play a game. Let me know how that works out for you. Again I said almost all newer games love cores.

A8 has alot of struggle on Beamng with more than 1 car.

[Omega]

igloosfolly eredeti hozzászólása:

Thanks for pointing a two year old article BF 3 and 4 are multi threaded as well as many other AAA games. Games that run on a single core are going away. Windows 10 is a better operating system and it just happens to include DX12. DX12 works great on Deus EX Mankind. Omega put your money where your mouth is and give us some single threaded games from 2017. Go into your bios and disable all but one core and try and play a game. Let me know how that works out for you. Again I said almost all newer games love cores.

Kingdom Come Deliverance just to name a recent 2018 release. Aswell as World Of Tanks which resently saw a v1.0 release. And many, many more.

"Disable all but one core" - Dumbo, your PC will be running more then just that one single game..

[igloosfolly]

Name calling again? https://wccftech.com/kingdom-come-deliverance-patch-1-4/ oops looks like multicore. World of Tanks has come a long way from 2010 read up about optimazation sure looks like it, could it be MULTI CORE. https://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/general-news/2018-preview/ . As the leader of disinformation on this forum perhaps some reading time is in order. https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/frequently-asked-questions-intel-multi-core-processor-architecture/ You can bet i wont be asking you for any help or a friend request. One thing is for sure the many are smarter than the few or in your case you.

Onion the A8was designed with a home user in mind who wanted to surf the net and maybe watch a Youtube video. It is not a bad chip but even when new was not designed for gaming and the games it could play had to be turned down to 720p for acceptable frame rates. Even though you bought yourself a nice little graphics card it just wont push a demanding game with that little 4 core and the slower DDR3 memory. Again not a bad chip but you might have to dial nack that resolution to get the most out of it.

[Omega]

igloosfolly eredeti hozzászólása:

Name calling again? https://wccftech.com/kingdom-come-deliverance-patch-1-4/ oops looks like multicore. World of Tanks has come a long way from 2010 read up about optimazation sure looks like it, could it be MULTI CORE. https://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/general-news/2018-preview/ . As the leader of disinformation on this forum perhaps some reading time is in order. https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/frequently-asked-questions-intel-multi-core-processor-architecture/ You can bet i wont be asking you for any help or a friend request. One thing is for sure the many are smarter than the few or in your case you.

I was unaware of the Kingdom Come patch. And is also only released a few days ago.

I spend an entire afternoon looking at CPU usage graphs while playing KDC when troubleshooting some stability issues, back then it was eating poor core #3 for breakfast.


I also saw a MSI Afterburner log of World Of Tanks a few months ago where it was clearly only using a single core.

"As the leader of disinformation on this forum"
buddy.. I make mistakes, we all do. And I am one of the more active members, if I make a few mistakes you apparently immediately assume I am smearing crap all over the place.

Dumbo = playfull. A joke. Get a sense of humor.

[igloosfolly]

No worries. I make statements not paragraphs so i can be easy to be misunderstood.

[FeilDOW]

Oh ya more cores is in folks, the days of games choking on a core are gone now they will choke 4c some 6c.

[igloosfolly]

True that look at that Intel 8400 chew through games with base clock of 2.8. Rumor has it can only turbo boost one core to 4.0. But i dont own one.

[LiMpY]

onion man. What's the make/model of your motherboard? There are better APUs out there.

[0nion_man_LV]

igloosfolly eredeti hozzászólása:

Onion the A8was designed with a home user in mind who wanted to surf the net and maybe watch a Youtube video. It is not a bad chip but even when new was not designed for gaming and the games it could play had to be turned down to 720p for acceptable frame rates. Even though you bought yourself a nice little graphics card it just wont push a demanding game with that little 4 core and the slower DDR3 memory. Again not a bad chip but you might have to dial nack that resolution to get the most out of it.

I really, really hate it for the lack of OC ability. I wouldn't even think about upgrading for next year problably if i just could buy like 4 fans to put around the heatsink and boost it to 4.2ghz from it's native 3.1 .

LiMpY eredeti hozzászólása:

onion man. What's the make/model of your motherboard? There are better APUs out there.

Msi military class 4 or 3 it was i think, steam says pc model is MSI MS-7721 altrough it was kinda custom built so its weird how it gave my pc a name lol.
I'm not into apu's anymore as i already have dedicated gpu.

Guys this is my full cpu name-

AMD A8-7600 Radeon R7, 10 Compute Cores 4C+6G

What does the 4C+6G mean, i have never understood that.

And it doesnt even reach anything close to 10 cores as this potato has only 4 of which 2 are hyperthreaded i think.

[Omega]

MSI MS-772 is the motherboard model.

Even if you OC this CPU to death it's not going to be any good. But at least it's a cheap performance boost. Put a big CPU cooler on it and OC, case fans will not make any diference.

[0nion_man_LV]

Omega eredeti hozzászólása:

MSI MS-772 is the motherboard model.

Even if you OC this CPU to death it's not going to be any good. But at least it's a cheap performance boost. Put a big CPU cooler on it and OC, case fans will not make any diference.

Only if i could as i said earlier. Sad, sad.

Omega eredeti hozzászólása:

MSI MS-772 is the motherboard model.

Even if you OC this CPU to death it's not going to be any good. But at least it's a cheap performance boost. Put a big CPU cooler on it and OC, case fans will not make any diference.

I tried AMD Overdrive and BIOS aswell, both times it just denied me literally.

And i'm the only user using PC meaning i'm the main administrator over it so shouldn't be a problem.

[upcoast]

0nion_man_LV eredeti hozzászólása:

Guys this is my full cpu name-

AMD A8-7600 Radeon R7, 10 Compute Cores 4C+6G

What does the 4C+6G mean, i have never understood that.

And it doesnt even reach anything close to 10 cores as this potato has only 4 of which 2 are hyperthreaded i think.

What ppl miss every time with FM2 is that there is no L3 cache and that cripples amd cpus heavily.

Cores, GHZ, instructions/architecture all matter together.

Like someone already pointed out take a look at the i5 8400 higher ipc/lower ghz/only 6 core/threads vs the Ryzen 1600 6 core 12 thread.

The a8 7600 is basically an Athlon and if OP went with an FX6350/8350 originally he'd be gaming just fine, so, anything is basically going to be better than the a8 7600.

Ps, sure FX 8 core is still managing newer games but its' ipc hurts it. Would I take a new 4 core now, no, 4 core is the new budget cpu for a reason but is the new 4 core better than a crapass FM2 sure and by a lot..