3 x sata raid 0 ssd - worth it for boot drive?
Hi all
I have my i7-3770k system and are looking to upgrade.
I am still looking at my options - amd or intel - which motherboard maker & memory details.
It seems as an expensive propostion whatever I choose due to memory prices.
So I will be looking to use drives I have presently to run the machine.
I have various hard drives, a 120GB ssd and 3 wonderful 60GB V300 SSDs.
I was looking to use the 3 x 60 GB drives in raid 0 for a boot drive.
Is anyone doing anything similar to this?
Any info on boot times or benchmarks anywhere?
Presently with my machine there is a third party chip to provide extra sata III which are not so great so cannot really test. I am interested in performance with a modern chipset.
I am aware if a drive fails then data can be lost but this is intended as a temporary solution. Hopefully an inexpensive optane disk around 200Gb will be avialable to replace them in the not too distant future.
So 3 drives means up to 3 x speed but are curious about random access performance.

Thanks

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Omega May 28, 2018 @ 4:48am 
If you already have the drives, sure. No reason not to run them in RAID.
tacoshy May 28, 2018 @ 5:08am 
with your SSD I would recommend against it. You should only sue RAID with 3 exactly same drives with the same capacity.
I'm aware trhat you have them but with SSD's like a V300 it is kinda waste for the OS drive for possible issues when killing a RAID array.

3 drives doesnt mean x3 the speed...its same as SLI it doesnt stack up to 100% (in fact not even clsoe).
Lord Flashheart May 28, 2018 @ 5:15am 
Originally posted by tacoshy:
with your SSD I would recommend against it. You should only sue RAID with 3 exactly same drives with the same capacity.
I'm aware trhat you have them but with SSD's like a V300 it is kinda waste for the OS drive for possible issues when killing a RAID array.

3 drives doesnt mean x3 the speed...its same as SLI it doesnt stack up to 100% (in fact not even clsoe).

Other than a drive failure then what possible issues?
If doing it I will be using the same 3 of v300 60 GB SSDs for raid 0.
I know it will not be 3x the speed. I stated it could be up to 3x the speed. It is the random read/write performance that interests me and to decide if it is worth it or not. If not then maybe the 120GB SSD for boot drive with a 60 GB for the swap file.
Last edited by Lord Flashheart; May 28, 2018 @ 5:19am
Bad 💀 Motha May 28, 2018 @ 12:09pm 
I'd put the OS on the 120GB and put the 3x 60GB into RAID-0

Use the 120GB for OS & Apps
Use the 3x 60GB for Games that wont fit on your 120GB

But given these choices; I would not put critical data on ANY of these drives.

You want an OS drive to be configured and setup so if that goes down or OS gets bricked, you are losing NOTHING in the way of personal files you can't recover.

And the RAID is another unreliable option, but overall it would help compared to putting 3x 60GB to use separately most likely. For other data, store on a mechanical HDD. External if need be.
Lord Flashheart May 29, 2018 @ 2:08am 
Originally posted by Bad_Motha:
I'd put the OS on the 120GB and put the 3x 60GB into RAID-0

Use the 120GB for OS & Apps
Use the 3x 60GB for Games that wont fit on your 120GB

But given these choices; I would not put critical data on ANY of these drives.

You want an OS drive to be configured and setup so if that goes down or OS gets bricked, you are losing NOTHING in the way of personal files you can't recover.

And the RAID is another unreliable option, but overall it would help compared to putting 3x 60GB to use separately most likely. For other data, store on a mechanical HDD. External if need be.

Your suggestion does seem sensible. I presenly use the 3 60 GB drives of software raid 0 for caching games - using primocache set to read only mode. I know raid 0 is not very reliable but will do daily backups using macrium reflect with those backups on a hard drive and those backup up externally on a regular basis. I do this with my present machine.
I am mainly interested in knowing if any performance gain, espeically with the random read/writes is worth the risk. Also it will be a temporary measure until a suitable optane drive is available.
Last edited by Lord Flashheart; May 29, 2018 @ 2:08am
rotNdude May 29, 2018 @ 10:50am 
Since you seem to have no concerns about the reliability of RAID 0 and you want to use the 3 60GB drives in RAID 0 as a boot drive, I would just do it. Performance won't be extremely better, but it will help a little.
Bad 💀 Motha May 29, 2018 @ 1:46pm 
Originally posted by rotNdude:
Since you seem to have no concerns about the reliability of RAID 0 and you want to use the 3 60GB drives in RAID 0 as a boot drive, I would just do it. Performance won't be extremely better, but it will help a little.

^ This and you'll get that benefit of having the OS see the 3x drives in RAID-0 as a single 180GB Drive.

For further help on this, let us know what exact Motherboard you have (brand + model) and which OS you plan to install. Then we could help further on how exactly to go about doing all of this.
tacoshy May 29, 2018 @ 1:51pm 
BTW wouldn't RAID-1 be an option too? oS runs fine on 60GB but with RAID-1 you have the redundancy while also the fast speed.
Bad 💀 Motha May 29, 2018 @ 1:59pm 
Yes, RAID-1 is a great option for 3 or more drives; however, this means those extra drives would be wasted in some respects due to them being mirrored; the up-side to RAID-1 w/ 3 or more drives is that if one fails, you replace the failing drive and re-build the RAID and you're back to where you were. As only one drive is usable data; which RAID-1 mirrors to the other drives in the array for redundancy purposes; in case of failures.

But given the 4x Drives the OP has here, using 3x 60GB (1x 180GB in RAID-0) for the single drive size and speed benefits may be better option depending on intentions and needs.

V300 are on the slow side by themselves, only getting approx 250-350 MBPS on the whole read/write areas; in RAID-0 you'd have faster speeds overall, but it will be capped to around 500-550 MBPS max, due to SATA 6Gbps bandwidth limits.

Plus, if the OP sets up the OS Drive so if bricked, he/she doesn't really lose any critical data; then really it would be fine.

You can re-route folder structures like "Documents" "Downloads" "Pictures" to reside on another Drive of choice; just ensure that drive is internal and not external.

Then overall, using whatever SSD based storage you have for Games, Apps and alike.

Any critical backups you will want on either an internal or external HDD type; not an SSD of any kind.
Last edited by Bad 💀 Motha; May 29, 2018 @ 2:01pm
Lord Flashheart May 30, 2018 @ 9:32am 
Originally posted by Bad_Motha:
Originally posted by rotNdude:
Since you seem to have no concerns about the reliability of RAID 0 and you want to use the 3 60GB drives in RAID 0 as a boot drive, I would just do it. Performance won't be extremely better, but it will help a little.

^ This and you'll get that benefit of having the OS see the 3x drives in RAID-0 as a single 180GB Drive.

For further help on this, let us know what exact Motherboard you have (brand + model) and which OS you plan to install. Then we could help further on how exactly to go about doing all of this.


I have some idea of how to setup raid. I have not yet decided on the exact parts.
So far I leaning towards a 2700X CPU with X470 Taichi Asrock M/B. Still looking at what memory will be optimum and affordable. I am just trying to plan ahead. I will install windows 10.
This will be a gaming only machine due to the severe privacy issues with that OS. Anything critical will be done on my present machine and will likley install linux. My graphics cards will be used on the gaming one naturally. I have various PC parts to swap around.
As I have old 1TB hard drives around will use them to install games in a raid 0 config also.


The gaming machine will have its boot drive backup up daily to a hard drive or maybne across the LAN.

As for the drives I will use for the raid 0, they are not that great so need to speed them up.
ugafan May 30, 2018 @ 9:34am 
why not just get a 970 evo?
Bad 💀 Motha May 30, 2018 @ 11:06am 
Originally posted by ugafan:
why not just get a 970 evo?

Cause OP already has useable SSDs on-hand.

And 970 is still slow and NOT worth it.
Intel SSDs make all Samsung stuff, all of them, look slow.

All one needs if buying brand new is something updated like a Samsung 860 EVO
They are cheaper then previous models, the QC is even better and they are rated for 8X the TBW compared to the 850 EVO series.
tacoshy May 30, 2018 @ 11:22am 
Originally posted by Bad_Motha:
Originally posted by ugafan:
why not just get a 970 evo?

Cause OP already has useable SSDs on-hand.

And 970 is still slow and NOT worth it.
Intel SSDs make all Samsung stuff, all of them, look slow.

All one needs if buying brand new is something updated like a Samsung 860 EVO
They are cheaper then previous models, the QC is even better and they are rated for 8X the TBW compared to the 850 EVO series.

970 Evo is an slightly faster 960 Evo. As an NVMe Drive by Samsung I would call it everything but slow.
However you're right if that doesnt help for the 3 SSD already at hand.
Bad 💀 Motha May 30, 2018 @ 11:26am 
But the average users will see zero differences between NVMe vs SATA

NVMe is great for an SSD where you are having it be used for extreme writes; such as recording 4K, 5K, 8K Video and such

You also must think on this factor as well > If you start buying M2 SSDs, what is your backup plan for them? How you will you read this drive should the Motherboard run into problems or you'd like to check that M2 drive on another machine.
Last edited by Bad 💀 Motha; May 30, 2018 @ 11:27am
tacoshy May 30, 2018 @ 11:35am 
Originally posted by Bad_Motha:
But the average users will see zero differences between NVMe vs SATA

NVMe is great for an SSD where you are having it be used for extreme writes; such as recording 4K, 5K, 8K Video and such

You also must think on this factor as well > If you start buying M2 SSDs, what is your backup plan for them? How you will you read this drive should the Motherboard run into problems or you'd like to check that M2 drive on another machine.

I agree that the price is high for the marginal difference the avergae user get. But you dont have more troubles then with other SSD's.

I just highly disagree when you call the SSD slow. For consumer SSD's it is the fastes SSd unless you count the Intel Optane 900p still into the list which is way to expensive for the nromal user.


Anyway that discussion is senseless because I believe his motherboard doesnt have a M.2 Slot. So he would need a PCI-E Adapter to M.2 which doesnt justify the price gain ration.
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