Miraklum 2018년 5월 27일 오후 12시 40분
How to make my ram reach 3000?
My specs are on my profile and I never OCed anything so a newbie when it comes to this. I read somewhere that my ram wont go beyond 2133 if I dont OC it. But how? Is it safe? I use MSI Command Center btw.

- MOTHERBOARD MSI B350 GAMING PLUS
- CPU AMD RYZEN 5 1600 HEXA-CORE
- RAM G.SKILL AEGIS 16GB (2X8GB) DDR4-3000MHZ CL16
- Graphics Card MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Ti GAMING 8G
- TP-LINK PCI EXPRESS DUAL BAND AC1300 ARCHER T6E
- PSU Seasonic M12II Evo Edition 620W Full Modular
Miraklum 님이 마지막으로 수정; 2018년 5월 27일 오후 2시 04분
첫 게시자: tacoshy:
Miraklum님이 먼저 게시:
I did it!!! :steamhappy: Managed after bios update to go beyond 2666. Aparently it was something with bios needing an update and 2933 is as far as it can go, but very pleased. After some searching I learned it was a common problem with first gen ryzen cpus...

https://ibb.co/meDP2d
https://ibb.co/m0u8TJ

Like to thank all that helped me out! :chug:

yeah thats what Omega and I said from the very beginning. BIOS update and then run it at 2933MHz.

Glad it worked out.
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Miraklum 2018년 5월 27일 오후 2시 13분 
Is it even worth it to bother guys? Or will it have no impact? Reduce lifespan? I just dont want to jinx my system...
TehSpoopyKitteh 2018년 5월 27일 오후 2시 15분 
Now that the specs are in order....


Miraklum, you will have to set the speed manually using the advanced chipset settings in your UEFI. There should be a section where you can select the type of RAM you are using.

Just to be sure though, the basic Bus frequancy of DDR4 is 2133 so it will show up as such when labled. For instance..my RAM is ddr4-2400 yet the lable in everyhting i use says it is 2133...Frequency for 2400 is 1200MHz

https://imgur.com/a/aWJW9L3?desktop=1

This usually happens when you are using uregistered RAM modules.
TehSpoopyKitteh 님이 마지막으로 수정; 2018년 5월 27일 오후 2시 15분
tacoshy 2018년 5월 27일 오후 2시 15분 
Miraklum님이 먼저 게시:
Is it even worth it to bother guys? Or will it have no impact? Reduce lifespan? I just dont want to jinx my system...

yes it is worth it. Ryzen is highly RAM depending. it starts to unlock its full performance with ~2666MHz while at 2933 it is fully used. Below that you holding the CPU back.

No it has not a reduced lifespan. The RAM is actually rated for that and it has a lifetime warranty. If it would fail you have the right to get a free replacement by G.Skill.
Miraklum 2018년 5월 27일 오후 2시 17분 
tacoshy님이 먼저 게시:
Miraklum님이 먼저 게시:
Is it even worth it to bother guys? Or will it have no impact? Reduce lifespan? I just dont want to jinx my system...

yes it is worth it. Ryzen is highly RAM depending. it starts to unlock its full performance with ~2666MHz while at 2933 it is fully used. Below that you holding the CPU back.

No it has not a reduced lifespan. The RAM is actually rated for that and it has a lifetime warranty. If it would fail you have the right to get a free replacement by G.Skill.
Ok, Im updating BIOS now...then Ill go back to the Bios and this time go for 2666 firts the see if it does 3000. How do I test stability?
Omega 2018년 5월 27일 오후 2시 18분 
Miraklum님이 먼저 게시:
Is it even worth it to bother guys? Or will it have no impact? Reduce lifespan? I just dont want to jinx my system...
Your RAM is rated to run at those speeds, no it will not decrease the life span. You even have a life time warranty on these things.

Running the RAM at higher clockspeeds in a Ryzen system gives you a massive performance boost. The infinity fabric used to connect the multiple Ryzen dies on your chips runs at the same clockspeed as your RAM, that is why Ryzen systems profit a lot from faster RAM. This same infinity baric is what is preventing you from running your RAM at the rated speeds. This infinity fabric is very much a silicon lottery, it's guaranteed to run at atleast 2666Mhz on your chip.

Miraklum님이 먼저 게시:
tacoshy님이 먼저 게시:

yes it is worth it. Ryzen is highly RAM depending. it starts to unlock its full performance with ~2666MHz while at 2933 it is fully used. Below that you holding the CPU back.

No it has not a reduced lifespan. The RAM is actually rated for that and it has a lifetime warranty. If it would fail you have the right to get a free replacement by G.Skill.
Ok, Im updating BIOS now...then Ill go back to the Bios and this time go for 2666 firts the see if it does 3000. How do I test stability?
You test stabilaty by simply using the PC. If applications start crashing it is unstable.

But just copy the timings and voltage the RAM is rated for and you will be fine. Then just set the RAM to 2666Mhz and work your way up. After that lower the timings.
Omega 님이 마지막으로 수정; 2018년 5월 27일 오후 2시 24분
tacoshy 2018년 5월 27일 오후 2시 21분 
The Spoopy Kitteh님이 먼저 게시:
Now that the specs are in order....


Miraklum, you will have to set the speed manually using the advanced chipset settings in your UEFI. There should ber a section where you can select the type of RAM you are using.

Just to be sure though, the basic Bus frequancy of DDR4 is 2133 so it will show up as such when labled. For instance..my RAM is ddr4-2400 yet the lable in everyhting i use says it is 2133...Frequency for 2400 is 1200MHz

https://imgur.com/a/aWJW9L3?desktop=1

This usually happens when you are using uregistered RAM modules.

The specs where in order befor, you just had to look for it.

You have to do it in BIOS not UEFI because it works in Legacy too...

The basic BUS Frequency of DDR4 is not 2133 it is 100MHz because RAM doesnt have a BUS Frequency... the normal multiplier for DDR4 tho is 21.33. He has tos et the multiplier now to 28, 29.33 or 30.

What do you mean unregistered RAM Modules. There is nothing that need to be rigistered.


PS: If the RAM is shown in everything you use as 2133 it runs at 2133MHz... Every Monitoring Program, Benchmark or even CPU-Z shows the correct RAM speed that is currently used.
Miraklum 2018년 5월 27일 오후 2시 33분 
I seleted profile 1 wich is 2666 ram speed and its all good...cant understand why wasn´t able to do 3000....wich is profile 2. Maybe the is a BIOS update on the manufacturer site of the mobo? Or maybe this board is not good with this ram...either way its stange.
InfinityJosh 2018년 5월 27일 오후 2시 34분 
Max System Memory Speed
2667MHz
System Memory Type
DDR4
Memory Channels
2

Source: official AMD website product page.

Just OC it to 2,667.00 for safety reasons.
Omega 2018년 5월 27일 오후 2시 37분 
Infinity Josh님이 먼저 게시:
Max System Memory Speed
2667MHz
System Memory Type
DDR4
Memory Channels
2

Source: official AMD website product page.

Just OC it to 2,667.00 for safety reasons.
Mhz isn't the thing that degrades hardware, voltage is.

Miraklum님이 먼저 게시:
I seleted profile 1 wich is 2666 ram speed and its all good...cant understand why wasn´t able to do 3000....wich is profile 2. Maybe the is a BIOS update on the manufacturer site of the mobo? Or maybe this board is not good with this ram...either way its stange.
I explained most of this in post #20. It's mainly a CPU issue.
Omega 님이 마지막으로 수정; 2018년 5월 27일 오후 2시 39분
Miraklum 2018년 5월 27일 오후 2시 42분 
Infinity Josh님이 먼저 게시:
Max System Memory Speed
2667MHz
System Memory Type
DDR4
Memory Channels
2

Source: official AMD website product page.

Just OC it to 2,667.00 for safety reasons.
But my board says it can handle it:

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B350-GAMING-PLUS/Overview

Ill update BIOS, later will try again. On their page it sates it fixes compatibility issues with some memory
InfinityJosh 2018년 5월 27일 오후 2시 43분 
Omega님이 먼저 게시:
Infinity Josh님이 먼저 게시:
Max System Memory Speed
2667MHz
System Memory Type
DDR4
Memory Channels
2

Source: official AMD website product page.

Just OC it to 2,667.00 for safety reasons.
Mhz isn't the thing that degrades hardware, voltage is.

Miraklum님이 먼저 게시:
I seleted profile 1 wich is 2666 ram speed and its all good...cant understand why wasn´t able to do 3000....wich is profile 2. Maybe the is a BIOS update on the manufacturer site of the mobo? Or maybe this board is not good with this ram...either way its stange.
I explained most of this in post #20. It's mainly a CPU issue.


But it says on the paper it won't go over 2,667.00.
He also need stable 12V line for OC the RAM until your suggestions.
Considering OP doesn't know what he is talking about it is better not to try to OC.
He won't be able to enter the BIOS..
Miraklum 2018년 5월 27일 오후 2시 45분 
Infinity Josh님이 먼저 게시:
Omega님이 먼저 게시:
Mhz isn't the thing that degrades hardware, voltage is.


I explained most of this in post #20. It's mainly a CPU issue.


But it says on the paper it won't go over 2,667.00.
He also need stable 12V line for OC the RAM until your suggestions.
Considering OP doesn't know what he is talking about it is better not to try to OC.
He won't be able to enter the BIOS..
I entered BIOS and got to 2666 but before couldn´t do 3000. Should I stop at 2666 ram speed?
InfinityJosh 2018년 5월 27일 오후 2시 46분 
Miraklum님이 먼저 게시:
Infinity Josh님이 먼저 게시:
Max System Memory Speed
2667MHz
System Memory Type
DDR4
Memory Channels
2

Source: official AMD website product page.

Just OC it to 2,667.00 for safety reasons.
But my board says it can handle it:

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B350-GAMING-PLUS/Overview

Ill update BIOS, later will try again. On their page it sates it fixes compatibility issues with some memory


That's what they say, but CPU is the motor not the MB, a frame could reach 200 MPH but if you have a motor which could go until 150 even with NOS you can't except MORE.
Omega 2018년 5월 27일 오후 2시 47분 
Infinity Josh님이 먼저 게시:
Omega님이 먼저 게시:
Mhz isn't the thing that degrades hardware, voltage is.


I explained most of this in post #20. It's mainly a CPU issue.


But it says on the paper it won't go over 2,667.00.
He also need stable 12V line for OC the RAM until your suggestions.
Considering OP doesn't know what he is talking about it is better not to try to OC.
He won't be able to enter the BIOS..
No, the AMD spec sheet says it is guaranteed to go up to 2666Mhz. RAM clocks above that may or may not work.

What is this about a 12v line? Doesn't make any sense.

Overclocking is completely safe. Kinda hard to accidentally put 2v on the RAM.

That is supposed to happen. Means the RAM has been pushed to far, then we know how far the RAM can go. A simple BIOS reset will fix that.
Omega 님이 마지막으로 수정; 2018년 5월 27일 오후 2시 48분
TehSpoopyKitteh 2018년 5월 27일 오후 2시 53분 
tacoshy님이 먼저 게시:
The Spoopy Kitteh님이 먼저 게시:
Now that the specs are in order....


Miraklum, you will have to set the speed manually using the advanced chipset settings in your UEFI. There should ber a section where you can select the type of RAM you are using.

Just to be sure though, the basic Bus frequancy of DDR4 is 2133 so it will show up as such when labled. For instance..my RAM is ddr4-2400 yet the lable in everyhting i use says it is 2133...Frequency for 2400 is 1200MHz

https://imgur.com/a/aWJW9L3?desktop=1

This usually happens when you are using uregistered RAM modules.

The specs where in order befor, you just had to look for it.

You have to do it in BIOS not UEFI because it works in Legacy too...

The basic BUS Frequency of DDR4 is not 2133 it is 100MHz because RAM doesnt have a BUS Frequency... the normal multiplier for DDR4 tho is 21.33. He has tos et the multiplier now to 28, 29.33 or 30.

What do you mean unregistered RAM Modules. There is nothing that need to be rigistered.


PS: If the RAM is shown in everything you use as 2133 it runs at 2133MHz... Every Monitoring Program, Benchmark or even CPU-Z shows the correct RAM speed that is currently used.
"The specs where in order befor, you just had to look for it."
In deed

Thanks Tach...I will mess around with that later.

1200MHz on Dualchannel is ddr-2400

Her is the part number


https://www.corsair.com/ca/en/Categories/Products/Memory/VENGEANCE%C2%AE-LPX-16GB-%284x4GB%29-DDR4-DRAM-2400MHz-C14-Memory-Kit---Black/p/CMK16GX4M4A2400C14
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