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[☥] - CJ - 2018 年 5 月 26 日 下午 2:51
Answered - RAM Question
Single Sided or Double Sided?
Which is the preferred type?

And which should be used on a new system?
最後修改者:[☥] - CJ -; 2018 年 5 月 26 日 下午 5:11
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InfinityJosh 2018 年 5 月 26 日 下午 2:54 
Not sure, about RAM I only check frequency, latency and reliability.
Omega 2018 年 5 月 26 日 下午 2:59 
I am pretty sure that if you buy 8gb you can assume it to be double sided. And it's not something which is listed on the manufacturers website anyway.

I had some issues once with a LGA775 system. It didn't take 4gb modules unless it was double sided. That was the only time I ever cared about single vs double sided.
[☥] - CJ - 2018 年 5 月 26 日 下午 3:16 
引用自 Omega
I am pretty sure that if you buy 8gb you can assume it to be double sided. And it's not something which is listed on the manufacturers website anyway.

I had some issues once with a LGA775 system. It didn't take 4gb modules unless it was double sided. That was the only time I ever cared about single vs double sided.

Yeah thats why im askin, for compatibility reasons
Washell 2018 年 5 月 26 日 下午 3:34 
引用自 ☥ - CJ -
Single Sided or Double Sided?
Which is the preferred type?

And which should be used on a new system?
The ones listed as compatible in the motherboards manual. Pick a motherboard, download the manual. Don't overthink things.
[☥] - CJ - 2018 年 5 月 26 日 下午 3:49 
引用自 Washell
引用自 ☥ - CJ -
Single Sided or Double Sided?
Which is the preferred type?

And which should be used on a new system?
The ones listed as compatible in the motherboards manual. Pick a motherboard, download the manual. Don't overthink things.

I know that
but they list single and double, so im curious which would be better
TehSpoopyKitteh 2018 年 5 月 26 日 下午 4:20 
引用自 ☥ - CJ -
Single Sided or Double Sided?
Which is the preferred type?

And which should be used on a new system?
Single sided ram has only one group of chips that the controller sees all at the same time. These chips may be laid out on one or both sides of the stick, it doesn't matter. All single sided means is that the chips are a single group that are used simultaniously, (now here it is) therefore making it MUCH faster than double sided ram.
Now for the fun part; finding single sided ram can be tricky. Sometimes ram that is denoted as "High performance or for extreme gaming" will get you some single sided ram. Otherwise, you might try this; Pins 33 and 45 on the board are used by double-sided memory, and can sometimes be an indicator as to whether a given module is single or double-sided. Happy Hunting!

引用自 ☥ - CJ -
引用自 Washell
The ones listed as compatible in the motherboards manual. Pick a motherboard, download the manual. Don't overthink things.

I know that
but they list single and double, so im curious which would be better
Single-sided is probably better for gaming because of how it readss all the chips simultaneously at the memory controller. It is why I got a 4x4GB configuration rather than a 2x8GB RAM configuration.
最後修改者:rotNdude; 2018 年 5 月 27 日 上午 8:42
tacoshy 2018 年 5 月 26 日 下午 4:41 
SIngle sided or double sided is no Problem aslong as only using 2 sticks. with 4 sticks double sided you can have some problems espacially on older CPU's as the memory controller cant control 8 sides.

引用自 The Spoopy Kitteh
引用自 ☥ - CJ -

I know that
but they list single and double, so im curious which would be better
Single-sided is probably better for gaming because of how it readss all the chips simultaneously at the memory controller. It is why I got a 4x4GB configuration rather than a 2x8GB RAM configuration.

Sorry Edmund that is BS. reading 4 sides and writing on it is ehavier for the memory controller then controling 2. And having 4 sides doesnt give higher performance as the limiting factor is the channel not the ammount of sides.

I can pretty much see it with me. If I only use 2x16GB I have no issues in OCing the RAM and it runs fine. Doesnt matter which 2 sticks I use. If I use all 4 I can barely OC it further without having stability issues because my memory controller cant keep up.
Omega 2018 年 5 月 26 日 下午 4:43 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIMM#Ranking

Dual vs single sided doesn't seam to make any meaningful difference.

And here is an article which for the most part just quotes Wikipedia:
https://www.oempcworld.com/support/SinglevsDualRAM.html
最後修改者:Omega; 2018 年 5 月 26 日 下午 4:46
TehSpoopyKitteh 2018 年 5 月 26 日 下午 4:46 
引用自 tacoshy
SIngle sided or double sided is no Problem aslong as only using 2 sticks. with 4 sticks double sided you can have some problems espacially on older CPU's as the memory controller cant control 8 sides.

引用自 The Spoopy Kitteh
Single-sided is probably better for gaming because of how it readss all the chips simultaneously at the memory controller. It is why I got a 4x4GB configuration rather than a 2x8GB RAM configuration.

Sorry Edmund that is BS. reading 4 sides and writing on it is ehavier for the memory controller then controling 2. And having 4 sides doesnt give higher performance as the limiting factor is the channel not the ammount of sides.

I can pretty much see it with me. If I only use 2x16GB I have no issues in OCing the RAM and it runs fine. Doesnt matter which 2 sticks I use. If I use all 4 I can barely OC it further without having stability issues because my memory controller cant keep up.
Singlesided RAM tends to be 4GB and lower. You'll find doublesided RAM requires more density per chip...and statistically speaking, you won't find singlesided RAM above 4GB's.

引用自 Omega
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIMM#Ranking

Dual vs single sided doesn't seam to make any meaningful difference.

And here is an article which for the most part just quotes Wikipedia:
https://www.oempcworld.com/support/SinglevsDualRAM.html

About the only difference is density. 4GB and lower is typically single sided. 8GB and higher is typically doublesided.

Doublesided uses bank switching to switch between which side is being used. Singlesided uses all the RAM chips at once. Both use all modules at once.

In terms of performance, the difference is negligible enough not to notice anything.
最後修改者:rotNdude; 2018 年 5 月 27 日 上午 8:43
tacoshy 2018 年 5 月 26 日 下午 4:53 
引用自 The Spoopy Kitteh
Singlesided RAM tends to be 4GB and lower. You'll find doublesided RAM requires more density per chip...and statistically speaking, you won't find singlesided RAM above 4GB's.

Exactly the oposit...
CPU's that only support 4 sides which most older CPU's only do would not work with 4 sticks then. Or only half of the RAm would then be recognized. at 8GB or higher you actually have it very hard to find any DS RAM.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/62vp2g/clearing_up_any_samsung_bdie_confusion_eg_on/
TehSpoopyKitteh 2018 年 5 月 26 日 下午 5:00 
引用自 tacoshy
引用自 The Spoopy Kitteh
Singlesided RAM tends to be 4GB and lower. You'll find doublesided RAM requires more density per chip...and statistically speaking, you won't find singlesided RAM above 4GB's.

Exactly the oposit...
CPU's that only support 4 sides which most older CPU's only do would not work with 4 sticks then. Or only half of the RAm would then be recognized. at 8GB or higher you actually have it very hard to find any DS RAM.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/62vp2g/clearing_up_any_samsung_bdie_confusion_eg_on/
Did you even look through the link before posting? It has nothing to do with Singlesided vs doublesided RAM.
tacoshy 2018 年 5 月 26 日 下午 5:07 
引用自 The Spoopy Kitteh
引用自 tacoshy

Exactly the oposit...
CPU's that only support 4 sides which most older CPU's only do would not work with 4 sticks then. Or only half of the RAm would then be recognized. at 8GB or higher you actually have it very hard to find any DS RAM.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/62vp2g/clearing_up_any_samsung_bdie_confusion_eg_on/
Did you even look through the link before posting? It has nothing to do with Singlesided vs doublesided RAM.

scroll down there huge tables with different RAM modells and listed if they are SS or DS... all 4Gb sticks are DS while only a few 8GB are also DS the rest are SS. Like I said hard to find DS 8GB RAM sticks and impossible tofind 16GB DS RAM sticks (outside of server memory).
[☥] - CJ - 2018 年 5 月 26 日 下午 5:11 
Alright guys, only needed a simple question answered, no need for a large senseless debate over it.

rotN, you can delete the thread whenever you pop by.
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