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Val 4/mai./2018 às 12:22
Chinese X86 processor?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8YluHsspMM
https://techreport.com/news/33018/via-joint-venture-reveals-kx-5000-x86-socs-for-chinese-pcs

" Chinese site EEFocus reports that Zhaoxin Semiconductor, Via's joint venture with the Chinese government, has announced the KX-5000 line of x86-64-compatible chips, which it claims are the first Chinese processors with full integration of platform controller chips and dual-channel DDR4 memory controllers.

The x86-64 KX-5000 CPUs will come in four- and eight-core versions manufactured by TSMC on a 28-nm process. The chips use an SoC design with integrated graphics, video decoding, SATA and USB controllers, PCIe 3.0 interfaces, and a dual-channel DDR4 memory controller. Zhaoxin claims the processors will be able to run at speeds above 2 GHz.

The KX-5000 is one part of a larger roadmap at Zhaoxin. The venture reportedly plans a 16-nm follow-up called KX-6000. The company already sells four- and eight-core ZX-C CPUs that can run Microsoft Windows or China-developed operating systems"

28 NM is like the stone age compared to AMD and INTEL but they could reach 7 NM within two years or maybe four.

Is the global PC market ready for a non American PC processor?
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Omega 4/mai./2018 às 14:30 
Escrito originalmente por The Spoopy Kitteh:
The history behind the VIA Technologies CPU...Some of you fellow old timers in the forums will enjoy this.

https://youtu.be/iWGAdoMz1c0
lol, I am binge watching his vids. Just finised that one.
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TehSpoopyKitteh 4/mai./2018 às 14:42 
Escrito originalmente por Omega:
Escrito originalmente por The Spoopy Kitteh:
The history behind the VIA Technologies CPU...Some of you fellow old timers in the forums will enjoy this.

https://youtu.be/iWGAdoMz1c0
lol, I am binge watching his vids. Just finised that one.
The good old days of CyriX
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InfinityJosh 4/mai./2018 às 14:51 
welcome Chinese CPU, I already own a chinese cellphone (Xiaomi) which has a APU Snapdragon Octacore 2 GHZ.
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TehSpoopyKitteh 4/mai./2018 às 14:55 
Escrito originalmente por Infinity Josh:
welcome Chinese CPU, I already own a chinese cellphone (Xiaomi) which has a APU Snapdragon Octacore 2 GHZ.
Snapdragon and Coldfire are fun ones....They run Amiga rigs ;-)
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tacoshy 4/mai./2018 às 14:56 
Escrito originalmente por Infinity Josh:
welcome Chinese CPU, I already own a chinese cellphone (Xiaomi) which has a APU Snapdragon Octacore 2 GHZ.

Which processor is a SoC not APU from an US company.

PS: newer Snapdragons beating every Core Q-CPU's and coming on par with first Gen. i3
Última edição por tacoshy; 4/mai./2018 às 14:58
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InfinityJosh 4/mai./2018 às 15:06 
Escrito originalmente por The Spoopy Kitteh:
Escrito originalmente por Infinity Josh:
welcome Chinese CPU, I already own a chinese cellphone (Xiaomi) which has a APU Snapdragon Octacore 2 GHZ.
Snapdragon and Coldfire are fun ones....They run Amiga rigs ;-)


Yes, I could do also video editing due to 8 physical cores and stable 2.00000 Ghz frequency (not hypertreated).

:) :)
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TehSpoopyKitteh 4/mai./2018 às 15:14 
Escrito originalmente por tacoshy:
Escrito originalmente por Infinity Josh:
welcome Chinese CPU, I already own a chinese cellphone (Xiaomi) which has a APU Snapdragon Octacore 2 GHZ.

Which processor is a SoC not APU from an US company.

PS: newer Snapdragons beating every Core Q-CPU's and coming on par with first Gen. i3
Snapdragon. Coldfire was an Amiga cconcept derivitave from Motorola from what I can rmember.

On a side note, you and Infinity Josh should watch the vidoe I posted. Great history on the CyriX CPU and how VIA Techologies ascquired X86. A lot of their CPU's were X86 and not micorcoded..which gave them a huge advantage over the 486...
Última edição por TehSpoopyKitteh; 4/mai./2018 às 15:17
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Val 4/mai./2018 às 17:16 
Escrito originalmente por Infinity Josh:
welcome Chinese CPU, I already own a chinese cellphone (Xiaomi) which has a APU Snapdragon Octacore 2 GHZ.

Kirin 980 will destroy the competition
Última edição por Val; 4/mai./2018 às 17:29
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Bad 💀 Motha 5/mai./2018 às 1:15 
People, get real, it's a joint venture with VIA involved.
Many techs up in here remember VIA, the joke to the entire PC Community back in the day.
Anything like this made in China will be as much of a joke as the generic iPhone you can get in China. They are even going as far as to get a hold of used Intel CPUs, sand down the top layer of the IHS and re-print a fake model on it so that CPU can be put back into the market, which is fake and useless. They are running scams like this through Ebay and other market-places. Just like the rebadged/fake GPUs they are reselling as well.

I will take China seriously when it stops making a donkey of itself... until then.
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Astraea Kisaragi 5/mai./2018 às 1:32 
Last I heard of them when VIA bought up Cyrix. They released that time some gold colored (?) 600mhz CPU which appreantly didnt needed even cooling so we can assume how good it was.

Cyrix has great specs on paper and if certain conditions where met, but crippled by design flaws, it was a joke in most situations.
And here we have this chinese something what not even on paper has good specs.

Also those mobile CPUs wouldnt even exists if ARM would have not invented it. My quacdore MediaTek is a crap anyways, cannot watch even 10bit anime on it, only inferior 8bit.
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Val 5/mai./2018 às 7:42 
Escrito originalmente por Bad_Motha:
People, get real, it's a joint venture with VIA involved.
Many techs up in here remember VIA, the joke to the entire PC Community back in the day.
Anything like this made in China will be as much of a joke as the generic iPhone you can get in China. They are even going as far as to get a hold of used Intel CPUs, sand down the top layer of the IHS and re-print a fake model on it so that CPU can be put back into the market, which is fake and useless. They are running scams like this through Ebay and other market-places. Just like the rebadged/fake GPUs they are reselling as well.

I will take China seriously when it stops making a donkey of itself... until then.

China's ARM chips like Huawei's Kirin chips have been doing a lot better in recent years, and their X79 processors are pretty good too.



Escrito originalmente por Astraea Kisaragi:
Last I heard of them when VIA bought up Cyrix. They released that time some gold colored (?) 600mhz CPU which appreantly didnt needed even cooling so we can assume how good it was.

Cyrix has great specs on paper and if certain conditions where met, but crippled by design flaws, it was a joke in most situations.
And here we have this chinese something what not even on paper has good specs.

Also those mobile CPUs wouldnt even exists if ARM would have not invented it. My quacdore MediaTek is a crap anyways, cannot watch even 10bit anime on it, only inferior 8bit.

Mediatek is actually Taiwanese and their Mediatek P70 is quite all right.

What you want is a Huawei p20 pro phone with Kirin 970
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Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism 5/mai./2018 às 11:36 
Escrito originalmente por Valzeras:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8YluHsspMM
https://techreport.com/news/33018/via-joint-venture-reveals-kx-5000-x86-socs-for-chinese-pcs

" Chinese site EEFocus reports that Zhaoxin Semiconductor, Via's joint venture with the Chinese government, has announced the KX-5000 line of x86-64-compatible chips, which it claims are the first Chinese processors with full integration of platform controller chips and dual-channel DDR4 memory controllers.

The x86-64 KX-5000 CPUs will come in four- and eight-core versions manufactured by TSMC on a 28-nm process. The chips use an SoC design with integrated graphics, video decoding, SATA and USB controllers, PCIe 3.0 interfaces, and a dual-channel DDR4 memory controller. Zhaoxin claims the processors will be able to run at speeds above 2 GHz.

The KX-5000 is one part of a larger roadmap at Zhaoxin. The venture reportedly plans a 16-nm follow-up called KX-6000. The company already sells four- and eight-core ZX-C CPUs that can run Microsoft Windows or China-developed operating systems"

28 NM is like the stone age compared to AMD and INTEL but they could reach 7 NM within two years or maybe four.

Is the global PC market ready for a non American PC processor?
It's an AMD license AFAIK and of course they could have it produced at 7 nm too if they designed and contracted for that.

Doubt it will be better than AMD have right now though. I'm not interested in a slower chip.
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upcoast 5/mai./2018 às 11:51 
Escrito originalmente por Valzeras:
Escrito originalmente por Infinity Josh:
welcome Chinese CPU, I already own a chinese cellphone (Xiaomi) which has a APU Snapdragon Octacore 2 GHZ.

Kirin 980 will destroy the competition

I'm very satisfied with my budget Honor 6x Kirin 655
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tacoshy 5/mai./2018 às 11:52 
To be real: there no real 14nm processors. They call it 14nm for marketing as kinda tradition to half the nm. However they not really reached 14nm.
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Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism 5/mai./2018 às 11:55 
Escrito originalmente por tacoshy:
To be real: there no real 14nm processors. They call it 14nm for marketing as kinda tradition to half the nm. However they not really reached 14nm.
And the physical Ryzen 2000/Zen+ die is just as large as the Ryzen 1000/Zen one.

Even though the former is called 12 nm and claimed to be able to feature smaller stuff.

Intel call their improved 14 nm 14++ nm.
Última edição por Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism; 5/mai./2018 às 11:56
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