Val 4/mai./2018 às 12:22
Chinese X86 processor?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8YluHsspMM
https://techreport.com/news/33018/via-joint-venture-reveals-kx-5000-x86-socs-for-chinese-pcs

" Chinese site EEFocus reports that Zhaoxin Semiconductor, Via's joint venture with the Chinese government, has announced the KX-5000 line of x86-64-compatible chips, which it claims are the first Chinese processors with full integration of platform controller chips and dual-channel DDR4 memory controllers.

The x86-64 KX-5000 CPUs will come in four- and eight-core versions manufactured by TSMC on a 28-nm process. The chips use an SoC design with integrated graphics, video decoding, SATA and USB controllers, PCIe 3.0 interfaces, and a dual-channel DDR4 memory controller. Zhaoxin claims the processors will be able to run at speeds above 2 GHz.

The KX-5000 is one part of a larger roadmap at Zhaoxin. The venture reportedly plans a 16-nm follow-up called KX-6000. The company already sells four- and eight-core ZX-C CPUs that can run Microsoft Windows or China-developed operating systems"

28 NM is like the stone age compared to AMD and INTEL but they could reach 7 NM within two years or maybe four.

Is the global PC market ready for a non American PC processor?
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Omega 4/mai./2018 às 12:36 
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King_BR0K 4/mai./2018 às 12:40 
it probably wont get much of a hold outside the chinese market
Omega 4/mai./2018 às 12:41 
"It's compatible with Windows"

*Shows picture of system tab in Windows 7 with Intel Core i5 installed*


Unless the chinese government funds this they are never going to catch up with Intel and AMD.

And they can always license a 14nm/10nm or 7nm process from a third party such as Samsung or TSMC.
Última edição por Omega; 4/mai./2018 às 12:46
Val 4/mai./2018 às 12:47 
Escrito originalmente por Omega:
Unless the chinese government funds this they are never going to catch up with Intel and AMD.

And they can always license a 14nm/10nm or 7nm process from a third party such as Samsung or TSMC.

The Chinese government is funding it
just.kamk /idle 4/mai./2018 às 12:54 
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Guess they learned from Intel.

One might say: welcome back Via (kinda). Personally i love some competition, and maybe we'll see some decently priced low end CPUs by them.

Btw., the the system tab might be due emulation. CPU just might register as i5, not that it matters.
Omega 4/mai./2018 às 13:01 
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Escrito originalmente por Omega:
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Guess they learned from Intel.

One might say: welcome back Via (kinda). Personally i love some competition, and maybe we'll see some decently priced low end CPUs by them.

Btw., the the system tab might be due emulation. CPU just might register as i5, not that it matters.
Nah, they learned this from Lenovo.

It would indeed be nice to see some cheap chips but I doubt this will actually turn in to anything huge.
Val 4/mai./2018 às 13:04 
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It would indeed be nice to see some cheap chips but I doubt this will actually turn in to anything huge.

They could end up dominating the middle east, Latin America, Africa, Asia, and Eastern Europe since cheaper prices really matters for developing countries.
Omega 4/mai./2018 às 13:07 
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Escrito originalmente por Omega:
It would indeed be nice to see some cheap chips but I doubt this will actually turn in to anything huge.

They could end up dominating the middle east, Latin America, Africa, Asia, and Eastern Europe since cheaper prices really matters for developing countries.
The Raspberry Pi and various other single board computers already own that market.
Val 4/mai./2018 às 13:08 
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The Raspberry Pi and various other single board computers already own that market.

Can't play games on those
Omega 4/mai./2018 às 13:10 
Escrito originalmente por Valzeras:
Escrito originalmente por Omega:
The Raspberry Pi and various other single board computers already own that market.

Can't play games on those
These machines are only supposed to get you online and provide you with basic office applications, nothing more.

And they can game just fine.
Acid 4/mai./2018 às 13:14 
Someone did not know VIA existed? VIA have been making x86 processors for decades.
Última edição por Acid; 4/mai./2018 às 13:16
tacoshy 4/mai./2018 às 13:21 
28nm processors running at 2GHz. So poor IPC, poor clock rate... They must be spool cheap if they want even have a slightest chance outside the Chinese market.
Última edição por tacoshy; 4/mai./2018 às 13:22
Vince ✟ 4/mai./2018 às 13:35 
I wonder what factory conditions are like
tacoshy 4/mai./2018 às 13:54 
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I wonder what factory conditions are like

Not worse then all the other hardware factories too... Ever saw how they work in motherboard factories?
TehSpoopyKitteh 4/mai./2018 às 14:29 
The history behind the VIA Technologies CPU...Some of you fellow old timers in the forums will enjoy this.

https://youtu.be/iWGAdoMz1c0
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