Windows feature update 1803 just pushed.

[SenMithrarin85]

hopefully the iso will be soon as well. hate upgrading existing installs. my system is always a mess having to see whats still working and what isn't

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Best bet is don't update OS when it's a whole new version; clean install it.
With Win10 you can be back to where you were in no time if you know what you're doing and prep for it.

[EliteGamer]

Well, I got mine from Windows Update and it's running fine.

No need to do a clean install with every OS update. I haven't done a clean OS update in over a year and never had any issues with Windows 10. Just so there isn't any issues, I just uninstall GPU drivers and sound card drivers and reinstall them..... much quicker than doing a clean install which requires backing up all your files and that's time consuming if you haven't done it in a long time.

Anyways, I like the new update. I'm impressed with how slick it feels. Everything feels smoother like opening tabs and moving mouse cursor navigating and browsing stuff.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย EliteGamer:

Well, I got mine from Windows Update and it's running fine.

No need to do a clean install with every OS update. I haven't done a clean OS update in over a year and never had any issues with Windows 10. Just so there isn't any issues, I just uninstall GPU drivers and sound card drivers and reinstall them..... much quicker than doing a clean install which requires backing up all your files and that's time consuming if you haven't done it in a long time.

Anyways, I like the new update. I'm impressed with how slick it feels. Everything feels smoother like opening tabs and moving mouse cursor navigating and browsing stuff.

I was referring more to worst-case scenario. Some folks have zero troubles and some have all sorts of issues. The bigger issue is folks not understand the OS they are using, nor taking the time to take control and configure it properly for their usage needs and also staying on-top of things in general.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย TheDude:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย EliteGamer:

Well, I got mine from Windows Update and it's running fine.

No need to do a clean install with every OS update. I haven't done a clean OS update in over a year and never had any issues with Windows 10. Just so there isn't any issues, I just uninstall GPU drivers and sound card drivers and reinstall them..... much quicker than doing a clean install which requires backing up all your files and that's time consuming if you haven't done it in a long time.

Anyways, I like the new update. I'm impressed with how slick it feels. Everything feels smoother like opening tabs and moving mouse cursor navigating and browsing stuff.

I agree. Given how many PCs I have and how much software I have installed on them, upgrade in-place is always preferred. No problems with drivers either. I mentioned a couple issues I noted further up in this thread.

I would have to say you are one of the lucky users who's encountered few issues along the way; that is good, but overall there will be many users, or simply combination of hardware configs that might not be so lucky.

I'd like to think a majority of users are not only smart overall, but encounter fewest as possibles issues as a user. But that varies alot depending on what exactly we're discussing.

Overall I'm glad to see you've had little issues over your time as a Windows OS user.

Many folks may even run into various issues along the way; simply because they can't do much if anything about the specs they have in their lap, or they may have something faulty in the mix that hasn't been revealed fully yet, such as faulty RAM or a HDD thats on its death-bed.

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย TheDude:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Bad_Motha:

I don't think you understand; after a Win10 version update, all previous Drivers are useless and most can not work on the new version. So while some may remain, they are wrong and/or can cause issues due to being out of date. Updating GPU is not always a must.

No one should be "updating" Drivers; you wipe them out every single time you wish to change version; that is how it works best as a means to avoid issues that could arrise.

I understand what you're saying but it hasn't been my experience on any of my PCs.

What drivers? Can you list examples?

One of the issues is that video drivers in particular stay in the "Winodws.old" folder while being used temporarily. So reinstalling them on the main drive so they can be loaded into memory by the new Windows installation, regardless if the old ones are working or not, is a good idea just in case you decide to delete the "Windows.old" folder via DiskCleanup. If you don't do it, just keep in mind that the "Windows.old" folder is scheudled to delete itself in a month after a build upgrade...

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย TheDude:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย The Spoopy Kitteh:

One of the issues is that video drivers in particular stay in the "Winodws.old" folder. So reinstalling them on the main drive so they can be used by the new Windows folder, regardless if the old ones are working or not, is a good idea just in case you decide to delete the "Windows.old" folder via DiskCleanup.

I already explained that I keep video drivers up-to-date. No drivers needed to be updated after the Windows update to 1803.

Except that those drivers are housed in your Windows.old folder...so you may as well reinstall them.

[igloosfolly]

I have never had to update any of my drivers after a windeers update. Nvida,chipset,lan etc are the way i set them up. Been through a ton of windeers updates and have not had to ever redo my driver package. But then again I dont own a prebuilt pc.

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย igloosfolly:

I have never had to update any of my drivers after a windeers update. Nvida,chipset,lan etc are the way i set them up. Been through a ton of windeers updates and have not had to ever redo my driver package. But then again I dont own a prebuilt pc.

I don't have a prebuilt PC myself[pcpartpicker.com], but the problem still persists. Windows 10 Pro is what I am using so it may or may not be a specific issue withe the OS. The reason you should do that for every service pack (whch is what Microsoft now calls "Editions") is simply because some of them are housed in the "Windows.old" folder. In the past that folder has been automatically deleted with certain video drivers still being used as a backup until cold boot or restart....this wouls cause a problem because the system would expect them to be at their old location rather than the new one.

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย TheDude:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย The Spoopy Kitteh:

Except that those drivers are housed in your Windows.old folder...so you may as well reinstall them.

I'm trying to explain that the drivers in-place before and after the update are exactly the same. and are the latest from NVidia for my GPU. I don't need to update any drivers.

An I am trying to explain that those drivers from before and after end up in the "Windows.old" folder...which is meant to be temporary unless a user wants to fill up more hard drive space or roll back to the previous build for whatever reason. Video drivers are the only ones that have this issue as far as I know.

Cheers

[Kaihekoa]

I must say that I do find the new timeline feature useful in Build 1803. Glad to see MS continuing to improve the software and add features for free.

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย TheDude:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย The Spoopy Kitteh:

An I am trying to explain that those drivers from before and after end up in the "Windows.old" folder...which is meant to be temporary unless a user wants to fill up more hard drive space or roll back to the previous buld for whatever reason. Video drivers are the only ones that have this issue as far as I know.

Cheers

The drivers weren't temporary for me. I deleted Windows.old and restarted several times. Even ran CCleaner (GASP!) and video drivers are still the same and working fine.

https://www.howtogeek.com/223821/what-is-the-windows.old-folder-and-how-do-you-delete-it/


Now the reason some user have to reinstall their video drivers...
https://superuser.com/questions/1210451/what-does-windows-old-folder-contain

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Bad_Motha:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย TheDude:

I agree. Given how many PCs I have and how much software I have installed on them, upgrade in-place is always preferred. No problems with drivers either. I mentioned a couple issues I noted further up in this thread.

I would have to say you are one of the lucky users who's encountered few issues along the way; that is good, but overall there will be many users, or simply combination of hardware configs that might not be so lucky.

I'd like to think a majority of users are not only smart overall, but encounter fewest as possibles issues as a user. But that varies alot depending on what exactly we're discussing.

Overall I'm glad to see you've had little issues over your time as a Windows OS user.

Many folks may even run into various issues along the way; simply because they can't do much if anything about the specs they have in their lap, or they may have something faulty in the mix that hasn't been revealed fully yet, such as faulty RAM or a HDD thats on its death-bed.

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย TheDude:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย The Spoopy Kitteh:

https://www.howtogeek.com/223821/what-is-the-windows.old-folder-and-how-do-you-delete-it/

I know what it is and how to deal with it. Plus, the new update has a better way to deal with it.

So how does it deal with it?

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย TheDude:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย The Spoopy Kitteh:

So how does it deal with it?

Update to 1803 to find out. Or use Google.

I have updated to it *checks post history for "Sucess..." followed by an imgur link*. I had no issues myself but did a reinstall of my video driver as a precondition. Why can't you just tell us what it does?

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย TheDude:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย The Spoopy Kitteh:

I have updated to it *checks post history for "Sucess..." followed by an imgur link*. I had no issues myself but did a reinstall of my video driver as a precondition.

Why ask me then?

Because you said it did something that nobody else has mentioned yet.

[igloosfolly]

Nope they are all in the C drive right where I left em all safe and sound nesteld in thier own little file safe from the horror of the outside world. It is a update not a system restore.