will a FX 8370 bottleneck a gtx970?

[Metr0]

I was going to get a ryzen 5 build but i am facing a huge issue all of a sudden with future stabality. I am wanting to know since my FX 4350 doesn't get me 60fps in anything with my gtx 970 if a 8370 will?

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引用自 ⎛⎝ Cloud Boy ⎠⎞：

My sister has a PC with GTX 970 and an i5 2500K, which is around 40% more powerful than any FX. I was playing Assassins Creed Syndicate last week on it, In some places my CPU usage was solid 100% but GPU usage was 70%. And the fps was hovering around 45s.
So yeah, there was around 30% bottleneck. But it was still playable.

But it all dependent on the game, games that released before 2015, should have no bottleneck at all. From End of 2015, many real CPU heavy games starts to appear. Games like Just Cause 3, Assassins Creed Syndicate / Origin, Deus Ex MD etc. But NOT all MODERN games are equally CPU heavy though, for example "Far Cry Primal" worked just fine with no issue or bottleneck at all.
Funny thing is AC:Origin performs better than AC:Syndicate, despite the fact that AC:Origin is Newer and more demanding game. That's because Unlike SYNDICATE, ORIGIN is optimized to use up to 6-8 CPU cores, so high core count CPUs performs better. That's another matter to consider.

Hmm....

[meheezen]

What resolution are you playing games on?

I run a FX8320 CPU with a RX470/4GB GPU and can play almost any game on high on 1920x1080@60+fps.

I highly recommend checking your temperatures and seeing if your GPU isn't being throttled down because of high temperature (or maybe even a power profile set to save energy).

if your sole goal is gamimg, get a Intel 7700k or 8700k, those are the top end for gamimg right now. Since i use my machine for more than just gamimg, i'd recomemnd skiping the 8370 and going all the way to Ryzen (2nd gen is just out and benchmarks tell they are delivering the improvements promised)

[igloosfolly]

The FX8350 is the chip to get but it needs a 180watt cooler to keep it cool. To those of us who have owned them we know that MS crippled the chip and windeers 10 was a God send for the architecture. My old chip never had any problems doing 60fps in any game. At this point I have moved on to Ryzen train with a 7-1700 and until better cooling shows up in the mailbox color me not impressed at all for gaming or ram compatibility and once again MS is stabbing AMD in the back with architecture. Ask me again when i get the Ryzen cooled off. The GTX970 will not bottle neck the 8350 except in a few games but i would look for a true 4gb model.

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

引用自 igloosfolly：

The FX8350 is the chip to get but it needs a 180watt cooler to keep it cool. To those of us who have owned them we know that MS crippled the chip and windeers 10 was a God send for the architecture. My old chip never had any problems doing 60fps in any game. At this point I have moved on to Ryzen train with a 7-1700 and until better cooling shows up in the mailbox color me not impressed at all for gaming or ram compatibility and once again MS is stabbing AMD in the back with architecture. Ask me again when i get the Ryzen cooled off. The GTX970 will not bottle neck the 8350 except in a few games but i would look for a true 4gb model.

The ASUS Strix Edition NVIDIA GTX970 is a true 4GB mode. I think MSI has one as well too.

Here is what it looks like inside my PC:
https://imgur.com/a/4Rams?desktop=1

[igloosfolly]

Dang Kitteh your cables are more messed up than mine and what is that cooler?

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

引用自 igloosfolly：

Dang Kitteh your cables are more messed up than mine and what is that cooler?

Oh that is because I have the case opend. The cabling gets automatically reorgnaized when I close it. The Power Suuply is housed on the bottom, and the cabling is minimal for waht I had to work with. I used a fully modular PSU. The loose cables are either wound on the bottom (in a was that does not disrupt air flow) and som of the onther ones ar jurrrigged to fall out of the way of airflow when the case is upright and closed. So far I cannot complain. 45C to 68C and a Core i76700K OC'ed to 4.4GHz. 2 120's on the front flor intake, 2 140's on the top and 1 120 on the rear for exhaust.

By the way this is sort of off topic,

@OP: IMO for Source engine games, the FX8370 should work just fine with a NVIDIA GTX970.

[FeilDOW]

引用自 The Spoopy Kitteh：

引用自 igloosfolly：

The FX8350 is the chip to get but it needs a 180watt cooler to keep it cool. To those of us who have owned them we know that MS crippled the chip and windeers 10 was a God send for the architecture. My old chip never had any problems doing 60fps in any game. At this point I have moved on to Ryzen train with a 7-1700 and until better cooling shows up in the mailbox color me not impressed at all for gaming or ram compatibility and once again MS is stabbing AMD in the back with architecture. Ask me again when i get the Ryzen cooled off. The GTX970 will not bottle neck the 8350 except in a few games but i would look for a true 4gb model.

The ASUS Strix Edition NVIDIA GTX970 is a true 4GB mode. I think MSI has one as well too.

Here is what it looks like inside my PC:
https://imgur.com/a/4Rams?desktop=1

There is no 970 that can use a full 4gb due to the last .5gb being super slow, this can not be disputed because nvidia lost a class-action lawsuit for false advertising.

https://www.polygon.com/2016/7/28/12315238/nvidia-gtx-970-lawsuit-settlement

[Metr0]

引用自 FluffyPinkDecoyBunny：

It won't bottleneck the 970 to any point that would be noticeable. However, the only real difference between the 8370 and 4350 will be for multi-threaded applications. The 8370 will win every time because more cores.

The IPC of the 4350 and 8370 are nearly identical, so any single thread performance from either CPU will be just about the same. If you want a better idea of the comparison between the two you can look here on anandtech[www.anandtech.com].

You'll notice a very similar performance on benchmarks that utilize single thread and a jump in performance for the 8370 on multi-threaded benchmarks. At the bottom of the comparison chart you'll see games and from what is posted the performance is nearly identical between the 4350 and 8370.

My suggestion would be to check temps on the CPU and GPU before you decide to simply start swapping parts. The 4350 and GTX 970 should give you solid performance on 1080p in a medium to high settings range on a lot of games. If your CPU or GPU are running too hot, they could be throttling to keep temps down and in return causing a reduction in your overall perforamnce.

My cpu is on water cooling but my gcard i have the fans at max but it could be dusty idk

引用自 FeilDOW：

What is your budget?

i useually have 300 to spend on parts and 100 on games but that always can change with bills or lifes surprises

[FeilDOW]

引用自 WebHead：

引用自 FeilDOW：

What is your budget?

i useually have 300 to spend on parts and 100 on games but that always can change with bills or lifes surprises

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3Z64KZ I would look into something like this over investing money in a slow dead platform. You can get 8gb ram for now if it's too much over budget and grab 8gb more later.

My 6300@4.7 was holding back my 290x years ago.

[Metr0]

引用自 FeilDOW：

引用自 WebHead：

i useually have 300 to spend on parts and 100 on games but that always can change with bills or lifes surprises

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3Z64KZ I would look into something like this over investing money in a slow dead platform. You can get 8gb ram for now if it's too much over budget and grab 8gb more later.

My 6300@4.7 was holding back my 290x years ago.

is ryzen 3 even that much better then a fx 8350?

[FeilDOW]

引用自 WebHead：

引用自 FeilDOW：

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3Z64KZ I would look into something like this over investing money in a slow dead platform. You can get 8gb ram for now if it's too much over budget and grab 8gb more later.

My 6300@4.7 was holding back my 290x years ago.

is ryzen 3 even that much better then a fx 8350?

Yes it is, they had a 40%+ IPC jump from FX.

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

引用自 FeilDOW：

引用自 The Spoopy Kitteh：

The ASUS Strix Edition NVIDIA GTX970 is a true 4GB mode. I think MSI has one as well too.

Here is what it looks like inside my PC:
https://imgur.com/a/4Rams?desktop=1

There is no 970 that can use a full 4gb due to the last .5gb being super slow, this can not be disputed because nvidia lost a class-action lawsuit for false advertising.

https://www.polygon.com/2016/7/28/12315238/nvidia-gtx-970-lawsuit-settlement

Then explain this away:
https://imgur.com/a/x1XUEI9?desktop=1

[Metr0]

引用自 FeilDOW：

引用自 WebHead：

is ryzen 3 even that much better then a fx 8350?

Yes it is, they had a 40%+ IPC jump from FX.

Ok what about this cheap MB mine cost 200usd when i got it it is a crosshair V formula republic of gamer

[FeilDOW]

引用自 The Spoopy Kitteh：

引用自 FeilDOW：

There is no 970 that can use a full 4gb due to the last .5gb being super slow, this can not be disputed because nvidia lost a class-action lawsuit for false advertising.

https://www.polygon.com/2016/7/28/12315238/nvidia-gtx-970-lawsuit-settlement

Then explain this away:
https://imgur.com/a/x1XUEI9?desktop=1

like it says in the lawsuit .5gb is useless, what you see is why they got sued.

[Metr0]

Sorry for the noob questions guys