Duck 12 kwietnia 2018 o 4:02
CPU for 1440p 144hz
Yeah

I'm building a new computer in may/june/july. I have a budget of $1600 AUD (or 1200 USD) excluding the monitor, which is $600 AUD lmao. I just play games, not much creative work, so a 16 core, 32 thread cpu wouldn't be very optimal.

I want to spend $800 on the new nvidia gpu's coming out in July, and it's pretty rock solid that they will be coming out then. If the 1180 (I know, not the real name, please don't go spastic) isn't 800 dollars, I'm going to cry haha.

Since ray tracing is very new, I wouldn't bet that the new gpu's will come with ray tracing honestly. Even if they did, the technology wouldn't be implemented for another 2+ years.

So, say that the new gpu will be around the same impact on the cpu as the 1080, what would be a good cpu to pair it with?

Thanks :)

EDIT: Yeah, in an earlier post I said that I wouldn't want 144hz because of some stupid reason. But you know what they say, once you go 144hz you never go back
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⛧EyMi Mayhem⛧ 12 kwietnia 2018 o 4:10 
8600k or 8700k, higher res is more or less up to the gpu, so 1080 or 1080 ti if u wanna have fun with 1440p / 144hz on the long run.

If it's only for gaming i5-8600k is enough.
Duck 12 kwietnia 2018 o 4:12 
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8600k or 8700k, higher res is more or less up to the gpu, so 1080 or 1080 ti if u wanna have fun with 1440p / 144hz on the long run.

If it's only for gaming i5-8600k is enough.
But will it break the budget? I mean, will the ryzen 2600 be good for the future/won't bottleneck? Ryzen 2600 will have the same performance as the ryzen 1600 in gaming.
⛧EyMi Mayhem⛧ 12 kwietnia 2018 o 4:25 
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8600k or 8700k, higher res is more or less up to the gpu, so 1080 or 1080 ti if u wanna have fun with 1440p / 144hz on the long run.

If it's only for gaming i5-8600k is enough.
But will it break the budget? I mean, will the ryzen 2600 be good for the future/won't bottleneck? Ryzen 2600 will have the same performance as the ryzen 1600 in gaming.

Well bottleneck is not rly only up to the hardware, more or less up to game / engine xyz.

I would go with ryzen if u do stuff like editing, for pure gaming - intel, coz of the single core performance.

But both will perform great, and ryzen 5 + a 1080 will work fine together, so don't worry.


And yes, i5-k + 1080 will break the budget.
For example
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/hVFPnH
$2268 Aud.
Chompman 12 kwietnia 2018 o 4:35 
Początkowo opublikowane przez LoganTNZ:
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8600k or 8700k, higher res is more or less up to the gpu, so 1080 or 1080 ti if u wanna have fun with 1440p / 144hz on the long run.

If it's only for gaming i5-8600k is enough.
But will it break the budget? I mean, will the ryzen 2600 be good for the future/won't bottleneck? Ryzen 2600 will have the same performance as the ryzen 1600 in gaming.
The problem is the 2600 is not out yet so we cannot tell other then just the base stats and hope the price they advertised is what it goes for as that can vary as we have seen for various reasons.

The biggest issue is intels chips are generally better in similar price points for games because of single threaded performance and most games still rely on that to this day.

It has been changing but it's still an important factor for older and even some modern games.

I would hold off until they are released as it's so close, 19th last I checked, before buying anything as it's close enough to wait a few weeks.
Malygos 12 kwietnia 2018 o 4:44 
If you wanna get an idea of performance just google ryzen 2 its already leaked people overclocking 2600 and 2700x theres a video of a guy with the 2700x overclocked to 4.2 playing battlefield 1
Duck 12 kwietnia 2018 o 4:53 
Początkowo opublikowane przez ⛧EyMi Mayhem⛧:
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But will it break the budget? I mean, will the ryzen 2600 be good for the future/won't bottleneck? Ryzen 2600 will have the same performance as the ryzen 1600 in gaming.

Well bottleneck is not rly only up to the hardware, more or less up to game / engine xyz.

I would go with ryzen if u do stuff like editing, for pure gaming - intel, coz of the single core performance.

But both will perform great, and ryzen 5 + a 1080 will work fine together, so don't worry.


And yes, i5-k + 1080 will break the budget.
For example
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/hVFPnH
$2268 Aud.
No, i mean $1600 for the parts. Then after the gpu, id only have 800 left for everything else. Do you think thats worth it for 1440p 144hz? Or should i just knock it down to 1080p and focus on other areas?
Rumpelcrutchskin 12 kwietnia 2018 o 5:12 
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No, i mean $1600 for the parts. Then after the gpu, id only have 800 left for everything else. Do you think thats worth it for 1440p 144hz? Or should i just knock it down to 1080p and focus on other areas?

If you mean $1600 without GPU and monitor then it's no problem going for i7-8700K build:

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/Q2bp8Y

It will stomp on anything that Ryzen has or will have this year.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Rumpelcrutchskin; 12 kwietnia 2018 o 5:14
Duck 12 kwietnia 2018 o 5:32 
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No, i mean $1600 for the parts. Then after the gpu, id only have 800 left for everything else. Do you think thats worth it for 1440p 144hz? Or should i just knock it down to 1080p and focus on other areas?

If you mean $1600 without GPU and monitor then it's no problem going for i7-8700K build:

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/Q2bp8Y

It will stomp on anything that Ryzen has or will have this year.
No, 1600 with gpu and without monitor :p
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Duck; 12 kwietnia 2018 o 5:39
⛧EyMi Mayhem⛧ 12 kwietnia 2018 o 5:43 
Początkowo opublikowane przez LoganTNZ:
Początkowo opublikowane przez ⛧EyMi Mayhem⛧:

Well bottleneck is not rly only up to the hardware, more or less up to game / engine xyz.

I would go with ryzen if u do stuff like editing, for pure gaming - intel, coz of the single core performance.

But both will perform great, and ryzen 5 + a 1080 will work fine together, so don't worry.


And yes, i5-k + 1080 will break the budget.
For example
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/hVFPnH
$2268 Aud.
No, i mean $1600 for the parts. Then after the gpu, id only have 800 left for everything else. Do you think thats worth it for 1440p 144hz? Or should i just knock it down to 1080p and focus on other areas?

Well with a 1080, it will still break the budget
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/xy8ZfH
^


Here is something around the 1.6k
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/nvsK4q
R3 + 1070.


And, well the 144hz are nice to have for some genres like shooter and with 1440p the image will be sharper/slightly better picture. Also rly depends on the screen.

Currently looking for a matching 1440p screen too, since I only have a hp 4k screen.. isn't rly my thing for gaming.

And/or you go to your local store(s) and compare both 1080p and 1440p, if possible.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: ⛧EyMi Mayhem⛧; 12 kwietnia 2018 o 5:56
Rumpelcrutchskin 12 kwietnia 2018 o 5:55 
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If you mean $1600 without GPU and monitor then it's no problem going for i7-8700K build:

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/Q2bp8Y

It will stomp on anything that Ryzen has or will have this year.
No, 1600 with gpu and without monitor :p


You can go for i5-8600K and cheap 1080p monitor when new graphics cards release and use that until you have money for good 144 Hz 1440p monitor. It would not be wasted money since you can still use that 1080p later as secondary monitor for data and browsing with 1440p.
And that way you will at least have decent rig instead of some cheap version that you need to start upgrading almost immediately:

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/TVLykd
Duck 12 kwietnia 2018 o 6:21 
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No, i mean $1600 for the parts. Then after the gpu, id only have 800 left for everything else. Do you think thats worth it for 1440p 144hz? Or should i just knock it down to 1080p and focus on other areas?

Well with a 1080, it will still break the budget
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/xy8ZfH
^


Here is something around the 1.6k
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/nvsK4q
R3 + 1070.


And, well the 144hz are nice to have for some genres like shooter and with 1440p the image will be sharper/slightly better picture. Also rly depends on the screen.

Currently looking for a matching 1440p screen too, since I only have a hp 4k screen.. isn't rly my thing for gaming.

And/or you go to your local store(s) and compare both 1080p and 1440p, if possible.
All you did was slap on a 1080 to an already-expensive build

What about this?

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/DjLykd

I already have a 500gb ssd and plan to add a 250gb one later on

Also, how is this monitor? The one i put on the list isnt the right one, as pcpartpicker doesnt have the model

https://www.mwave.com.au/product/msi-optix-mag27cq-27-wqhd-144hz-freesync-curved-gaming-monitor-ac11928?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIi5aTieq02gIVSgYqCh3sfg5lEAQYASABEgIucvD_BwE
Malygos 12 kwietnia 2018 o 6:27 
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Well with a 1080, it will still break the budget
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/xy8ZfH
^


Here is something around the 1.6k
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/nvsK4q
R3 + 1070.


And, well the 144hz are nice to have for some genres like shooter and with 1440p the image will be sharper/slightly better picture. Also rly depends on the screen.

Currently looking for a matching 1440p screen too, since I only have a hp 4k screen.. isn't rly my thing for gaming.

And/or you go to your local store(s) and compare both 1080p and 1440p, if possible.
All you did was slap on a 1080 to an already-expensive build

What about this?

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/DjLykd

I already have a 500gb ssd and plan to add a 250gb one later on

Also, how is this monitor? The one i put on the list isnt the right one, as pcpartpicker doesnt have the model

https://www.mwave.com.au/product/msi-optix-mag27cq-27-wqhd-144hz-freesync-curved-gaming-monitor-ac11928?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIi5aTieq02gIVSgYqCh3sfg5lEAQYASABEgIucvD_BwE
Id get 16gb of ram and are you gonna stick with the wraith spire cooler?
⛧EyMi Mayhem⛧ 12 kwietnia 2018 o 6:30 
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What about this?

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/DjLykd

I already have a 500gb ssd and plan to add a 250gb one later on

Also, how is this monitor? The one i put on the list isnt the right one, as pcpartpicker doesnt have the model

https://www.mwave.com.au/product/msi-optix-mag27cq-27-wqhd-144hz-freesync-curved-gaming-monitor-ac11928?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIi5aTieq02gIVSgYqCh3sfg5lEAQYASABEgIucvD_BwE

If so, yes you can scratch the sdd and save a bit.

R5 + 1080 so far so good.
But would change the ram, ryzen benefits from more mhz.
And maybe a better brand, like corsair, kingston or so.
You could also save a bit on the psu and go with 650w.

Screen has freesync (amd tech) but you could turn off freesync and use it as regular screen with v-sync or fast sync.
Duck 12 kwietnia 2018 o 6:50 
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All you did was slap on a 1080 to an already-expensive build

What about this?

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/DjLykd

I already have a 500gb ssd and plan to add a 250gb one later on

Also, how is this monitor? The one i put on the list isnt the right one, as pcpartpicker doesnt have the model

https://www.mwave.com.au/product/msi-optix-mag27cq-27-wqhd-144hz-freesync-curved-gaming-monitor-ac11928?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIi5aTieq02gIVSgYqCh3sfg5lEAQYASABEgIucvD_BwE
Id get 16gb of ram and are you gonna stick with the wraith spire cooler?
What can i scratch to get 16gb? Also, for the meantime, yes. But i want to change it later on to something nicer haha

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What about this?

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/DjLykd

I already have a 500gb ssd and plan to add a 250gb one later on

Also, how is this monitor? The one i put on the list isnt the right one, as pcpartpicker doesnt have the model

https://www.mwave.com.au/product/msi-optix-mag27cq-27-wqhd-144hz-freesync-curved-gaming-monitor-ac11928?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIi5aTieq02gIVSgYqCh3sfg5lEAQYASABEgIucvD_BwE

If so, yes you can scratch the sdd and save a bit.

R5 + 1080 so far so good.
But would change the ram, ryzen benefits from more mhz.
And maybe a better brand, like corsair, kingston or so.
You could also save a bit on the psu and go with 650w.

Screen has freesync (amd tech) but you could turn off freesync and use it as regular screen with v-sync or fast sync.
Alrighty. But doesnt v-sync increase input lag? And im currently using a hp 25vx, im going to miss the glossyness of it :c, and i cant consciously tell the difference between it on and off.
⛧EyMi Mayhem⛧ 12 kwietnia 2018 o 7:00 
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Alrighty. But doesnt v-sync increase input lag? And im currently using a hp 25vx, im going to miss the glossyness of it :c, and i cant consciously tell the difference between it on and off.

So far I know yes, but there r few ways of combating it, like changing the pre-rendered frames for example.
Or go with fast sync.
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