a new GPU

[Jabibi]

i have some high preformance demanding games in my library and right now the only thing anchoring my build is my GPU (and possibly my ram it only has 1 8gb stick)

my current graphics card is a Radeon RX 460 and from what i heard its only good for basic gaming

my budget would be around a £1000 more or less

i just need a card strong enough to smoothly run bethesda games and roblox 4k on high or ultra settings and strong enough to run vr games for vive which im saving up to for summer.

im looking through a lot of video cards on pc part picker but i have no idea which is good or overpriced

[John Doe]

Yeah, that one is a double rail unit botched to be single. Crapper PSUs get hi-pot OK too, doesn't mean much.

[Jamebonds1]

Publicado originalmente por John Doe:

Yeah, that one is a double rail unit botched to be single. Crapper PSUs get hi-pot OK too, doesn't mean much.

Yes. It is requirement to be Hi Pot OK for quaitly. We have one in work. That is part of IPC.

But still, thermaltake PSU work fine to me while other people disagree. So it is not horrible PSU at all. No burn out, no damages, no blow up, etc.

My XFX PSU has dual 12V rail?

[John Doe]

No, it was a dual rail unit XFX cabled to be single. That was mentioned in some page down the review.

[Jamebonds1]

Publicado originalmente por John Doe:

No, it was a dual rail unit XFX cabled to be single. That was mentioned in some page down the review.

You mean +12V single output > multi 12 V cable for CPU power, GPU power, SATA power, and floppy power?

[John Doe]

No I mean, it originally had two +12V rails, but they converted it to be single.

[Jamebonds1]

Publicado originalmente por John Doe:

No I mean, it originally had two +12V rails, but they converted it to be single.

They're not DC at first, nor two +12V rail. It is not possible to have two +12V from transformer to work at same time....I think. Transformer output 12V in AC, it switching from +12V to -12V repeat while there is ground in middle of transformer. Such as +12, +5, G, -5, -12. Then once they passed throught diode (AKA Full Wave Rectification), it become +12V DC in single rail. Full Wave Rectification will stop -12V from go throught, instead +12V will go thought. Is that what you meant?

There is map of PSU on this link
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/anatomy-of-switching-power-supplies/2/

[John Doe]

How many more of these nonsensical talks are you going to make when you don't even know what you're talking about? If you read the JonnyGuru on the single or multi rail article, HE SAYS that there are PSUs with two transformers and two +12v sources THAT COMBINE. Like TT Toughpower 1000W. Heck, there are redundant PSUs that are two units that work as one at the end.

Yes, AC power comes into PSU, then it's converted to DC... AND THE RAILS ARE OCP POINTS.

[Jamebonds1]

Publicado originalmente por John Doe:

How many more of these nonsensical talks are you going to make when you don't even know what you're talking about? If you read the JonnyGuru on the single or multi rail article, HE SAYS that there are PSUs with two transformers and two +12v sources THAT COMBINE. Like TT Toughpower 1000W. Heck, there are redundant PSUs that are two units that work as one at the end.

Yes, AC power comes into PSU, then it's converted to DC... AND THE RAILS ARE OCP POINTS.

But my XFX has only one main transformer. To output two +12V from transformer at same time is impossible. Transformer wouldn't working. That is why transformer output -12V and +12V to be switching each other, then when it went through doide. It become +12V in single rail. And I'm done. My opioion, your opioion. Sorry.

Sorry OP as well, I felt bad that there is argument here.

[John Doe]

When did I say your PSU has two transformers?

Look, what I said was, on the original unit your PSU was based on, there were two +12v rails.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/xfx-pro-750-w-black-edition-full-modular-power-supply-review/5/

Read the line under figure 19.

BUT, XFX used one cable so it's single rail... you could cut the cables of a multi rail PSU, then solder all in one and it would become a single rail unit. Except that, it is not what they did. They simply used a single cable instead of the two cables used on the modular board of the platform it was based on.

[Jamebonds1]

Publicado originalmente por John Doe:

When did I say your PSU has two transformers?

Look, what I said was, on the original unit your PSU was based on, there were two +12v rails.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/xfx-pro-750-w-black-edition-full-modular-power-supply-review/5/

Read the line under figure 19.

BUT, XFX used one cable so it's single rail... you could cut the cables of a multi rail PSU, then solder all in one and it would become a single rail unit. Except that, it is not what they did. They simply used a single cable instead of the two cables used on the modular board of the platform it was based on.

Yeah, that is what WT7527 (AKA PC POWER SUPPLY SUPERVISOR) has it, but it is just one out of two 12V output used result in single rail. I read WT7527 data sheet. Anyway, I think we have enough.... for now.

[John Doe]

+12V and -12V has absolutely nothing to do with the amount of rails. Please stop confusing things and all this mess.

[Jamebonds1]

Publicado originalmente por John Doe:

+12V and -12V has absolutely nothing to do with the amount of rails. Please stop confusing things and all this mess.

Okay. I only asked if that is what you meant to saying to me when you lost me. And I never said that on last comment. Like I said, your opioion, my opioion. On last comment, I really mean, I think we need to stop.

[John Doe]

I lost you because you've been talking about things you don't have a clear idea on, and basing your information on BS somebody told you on this forum, which JGuru classifies as "fud".

Yeah, I'm done.

[Jamebonds1]

Publicado originalmente por John Doe:

I lost you because you've been talking about things you don't have a clear idea on, and basing your information on BS somebody told you on this forum, which JGuru classifies as "fud".

Yeah, I'm done.

Okay. I'm not one with a problem, and I do not start it. Ever if i have really clear idea and read careful. To be honeslty, I don't always agree so I try to respect it.

[igloosfolly]

A multi rail is more stable and provides cleaner power. Each circuit rail is protected by diodes and a rectifer. You can have as many GD rails as you want up to the total out put of the transformer or transformers and the number of capacitors and rectifers you wish to use. And yes all these extra componets cost money. It is all about circuit protection. I WILL GIVE YOU TWO LINKS SO YOU BOTH CAN LEARN SOMETHING. http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-power-supplies/12/ http://circuit-zone.com/index.php?electronic_project=710 Everybody loves a piece of A.. nobody likes a S....A.. .