Is Hynix really that bad?

[BeamLT]

So I think I made the mistake of buying 2x8GB Corsair Vengeange LPX DDR4 3000MHZ RAM sticks because I found out afterwards they are Hynix based. I also saw a lot of comments saying to avoid Hynix. Is there any hope for me or is my RAM just downright crap.

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

Living Failure님이 먼저 게시:

Bro you're fine and Hynix has no issues with Ryzen. Anyone telling you they do should stop posting PC advice.

Exactly, someone already necroed the post, but yes, that’s exactly the case. Ryzen only actually works more optimized with DDR4-2666 because it has a few differences in architecture and one part of it is 3DNow. Faster DDR4 RAM will help Ryzen calculate physics animations better while playing games. 3DNow! microcode is still included for physics IIRC.

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

Living Failure님이 먼저 게시:

Oh my bad. Didn't realize it was such an old post and someone pushed it up. Sorry guys.

Nah, it’s fine xD Honestly you were on topic so I’m sure it won’t matter. I only got notified about the topic in the past couple of days because I forgot to unsubscribe from it xD

[tacoshy]

Teh Spoopy Kitteh님이 먼저 게시:

Exactly, someone already necroed the post, but yes, that’s exactly the case. Ryzen only actually works more optimized with DDR4-2666 because it has a few differences in architecture and one part of it is 3DNow. Faster DDR4 RAM will help Ryzen calculate physics animations better while playing games. 3DNow! microcode is still included for physics IIRC.

Not true. Ryzen sues the Infinity Fabric Bus. it conenct all cores with each other. The Bus speed equals 1:1 the RAM speed. So the faster the RAM, the faster the BUS, the faster all cores can communicate = the more performance you get from the CPU in any case not only special cases.

Living Failure님이 먼저 게시:

Bro you're fine and Hynix has no issues with Ryzen. Anyone telling you they do should stop posting PC advice.

Yes you're fine with hynix RAM it just is about the RAM speed and at 3000MHz or better yet 3200MHz which still has RAM with lower timings (CL14-16) then default JEDEFC 2133MHz CL15 is to 99% Samsugn B-Dies. Also Samsugn B-Dies are superior to hynix at same RAM speed.
Hynix will work, but DDR4-3000 is noticably faster with Ryzen then 2666MHz and cost the same. Hynix is not abd because it doesnt work but you can get way better RAM (and Ryzen is RAM depending) for the same price.

[Dracconus]

tacoshy님이 먼저 게시:

Yes you're fine with hynix RAM it just is about the RAM speed and at 3000MHz or better yet 3200MHz which still has RAM with lower timings (CL14-16) then default JEDEFC 2133MHz CL15 is to 99% Samsugn B-Dies. Also Samsugn B-Dies are superior to hynix at same RAM speed.
Hynix will work, but DDR4-3000 is noticably faster with Ryzen then 2666MHz and cost the same. Hynix is not abd because it doesnt work but you can get way better RAM (and Ryzen is RAM depending) for the same price.

He's entirely right. Pushing my Vulkan's from 2666 to 2932 and dropping my timings netted me a noticeable difference in the way games and applications responded. Not only did I obtain more Frames per second, but it also improved on Frametime, and the overall responsiveness of the game on my system.

[Astro_80 (WASH YOUR HANDS!)]

I have Corsair RAM with Hynix chips. No problems here.

[TiwiTiwi]

Astro_80님이 먼저 게시:

I have Corsair RAM with Hynix chips. No problems here.

Same here, using Corsair Dominator 4x8 3000Mhz and i'm running them at 3333Mhz and been doing that since 2017

[NathaN]

You won't notice a scrap of difference in real world usage.

[r.linder]

Bad 💀 Motha님이 먼저 게시:

For anything Ryzen, yes do not use Hynix on that platform, period.

Hynix is not bad for Ryzen, it's just hit or miss. I used Hynix RAM with 2 different Ryzen 7 chips and didn't have any memory compatibility issues. You'll also see less than a 1% difference between Ripjaws V Hynix and Flare X, for a considerable price difference, so the risk is still worth it. If it works without any issues, you just saved a ton.

G.Skill Ripjaws V Hynix kits are almost guaranteed to work with Ryzen nowadays, it's on QVL for some motherboards, including mine. You just won't have much luck overclocking or lowering timings like people do with Flare X or similar Samsung kits.

[tacoshy]

like I already said: The question is not if it is bad. When you get the superior Samsung B-Die for literally the same price or 2-5 USD more, why go with Hynix in the first place?

[r.linder]

tacoshy님이 먼저 게시:

like I already said: The question is not if it is bad. When you get the superior Samsung B-Die for literally the same price or 2-5 USD more, why go with Hynix in the first place?

Superior by ~1% due to lower timings. It makes no difference for 99% of users, so save 5$ US for something else unless one's own ego dictates that they must have the absolute best. There's no reason to spend even 5$ more when you don't need to, saving money where you can is better in the long run, especially since it's specs that will be completely outdated in 5~10 years depending on how it ages.

I use both Ripjaws V and Flare X, the difference is so minor that you won't actually notice outside of benchmarks and productivity that makes use of every last drop of performance.

[tacoshy]

Escorve님이 먼저 게시:

tacoshy님이 먼저 게시:

like I already said: The question is not if it is bad. When you get the superior Samsung B-Die for literally the same price or 2-5 USD more, why go with Hynix in the first place?

Superior by ~1% due to lower timings. It makes no difference for 99% of users, so save 5$ US for something else unless one's own ego dictates that they must have the absolute best.

there is mroe then timings and frequency. In normal sue you proberly not going to recognize it but if you really put the RAM at work you do. If you bench the RAM you see with the frequency and timings better results on Samsungs B-Die.

Its not about that you must have the best but that the best cost the same. If the price is the same why not go for the best?

[r.linder]

tacoshy님이 먼저 게시:

Escorve님이 먼저 게시:

Superior by ~1% due to lower timings. It makes no difference for 99% of users, so save 5$ US for something else unless one's own ego dictates that they must have the absolute best.

there is mroe then timings and frequency. In normal sue you proberly not going to recognize it but if you really put the RAM at work you do. If you bench the RAM you see with the frequency and timings better results on Samsungs B-Die.

Its not about that you must have the best but that the best cost the same. If the price is the same why not go for the best?

The price isn't the same. There is a noticeable difference in price, even between the B-die Ripjaws and the Hynix M-die Ripjaws. Better to save for something else when you don't need the best, as saving elsewhere in your build while not skimping could afford a better GPU or CPU.

[tacoshy]

Escorve님이 먼저 게시:

tacoshy님이 먼저 게시:

there is mroe then timings and frequency. In normal sue you proberly not going to recognize it but if you really put the RAM at work you do. If you bench the RAM you see with the frequency and timings better results on Samsungs B-Die.

Its not about that you must have the best but that the best cost the same. If the price is the same why not go for the best?

The price isn't the same. There is a noticeable difference in price, even between the B-die Ripjaws and the Hynix M-die Ripjaws. Better to save for something else when you don't need the best, as saving elsewhere in your build while not skimping could afford a better GPU or CPU.

You know that it is absolutly random what you get a Ripjaws 3200MHz? Most of them are Samsugn B-Die Silicion lottery losers. And they all cost the same. Ripjaws is pretty much the product line where they throw all the RAM modules together they cant get in their higher tier line ups

[r.linder]

tacoshy님이 먼저 게시:

Escorve님이 먼저 게시:

The price isn't the same. There is a noticeable difference in price, even between the B-die Ripjaws and the Hynix M-die Ripjaws. Better to save for something else when you don't need the best, as saving elsewhere in your build while not skimping could afford a better GPU or CPU.

You know that it is absolutly random what you get a Ripjaws 3200MHz? Most of them are Samsugn B-Die Silicion lottery losers. And they all cost the same. Ripjaws is pretty much the product line where they throw all the RAM modules together they cant get in their higher tier line ups

There are specific models noted in QVLs that are proven Samsung die kits, and they are hardly different from "higher tier" kits.

[Astraea Kisaragi]

This topic still goes on after 1,5 years? Ryzens indeed had issues with Hynix on the start but it was solved via BIOS/microcode updates.
On other hand if the price difference is tiny, I would still prefer Samsung or Micron over Hynix, problem is that sometimes you wont even know what you get. My Corsair is Micron, but I know first batches where pretty much Hynix.
Or you simply get Crucial and it will be Micron for sure.