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BeamLT May 22, 2018 @ 8:03am
Is Hynix really that bad?
So I think I made the mistake of buying 2x8GB Corsair Vengeange LPX DDR4 3000MHZ RAM sticks because I found out afterwards they are Hynix based. I also saw a lot of comments saying to avoid Hynix. Is there any hope for me or is my RAM just downright crap.
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tacoshy May 23, 2018 @ 5:28am 
Their is no Crucial Ballistix even tho pcpartpicker states it wrong.

It's either Micron Crucial or Micron Ballistix even stated as such on micron website. And they use Micron chips. Ballistix Elite is based on Samsung B-Die but is still micron chips.

Not all Kingston RAM is Samsung. Especially for lower Frequency they like to use Hynix. Same for Vengeance. Low frequency uses Hynix at higher frequency they swift to Samsung. Also same for Ripjaws.
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Omega May 23, 2018 @ 5:37am 
It's advertised everywhere as Crucial Ballistix, not just on PcPartPicker. But on the Crucial website it is advertised as Ballistix by Micron.
Last edited by Omega; May 23, 2018 @ 6:05am
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tacoshy May 23, 2018 @ 6:29am 
Originally posted by Omega:
It's advertised everywhere as Crucial Ballistix, not just on PcPartPicker. But on the Crucial website it is advertised as Ballistix by Micron.

I know and thats the confusing stuff. Crucial.com is Micron's Consumer Store and there all their Consumer stuff is sold. Makes it seem like that Crucial is a company or the brand for every Micron Product.

http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/memory/crucial?cm_re=us-top-nav-_-us-flyout-memory-_-us-memory-crucial

Even there it has a listing by Series where Crucial and Ballistix is a different series. If you look at the retail packaging of the new Ballistix RAM, it does not shown any Crucial Mark, just Ballistix by Micron.

The Older RAM modules have a tiny mark with Crucial by Micron, all the newer ones dont have it anymore. So the might split those series up recently but at this point they are different series now.
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Omega May 23, 2018 @ 6:33am 
I gotta swap the cooler in my rig today anyway. I will take a close look at my Ballistix modules to see if they have a Crucial branding on them or not.
Last edited by Omega; May 23, 2018 @ 6:33am
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Astraea Kisaragi May 23, 2018 @ 7:15am 
Crucial are probably the only RAM producing company which uses only very own modules and all models are Micron.
To me Micron seemed the best choice always, almost so fast and reliable as Samsung but doesn't costs arm and leg.
I almost bought them but then I spotted a priceoff for Corsair Vengeance and it was was also Micron form inside. Lucky, assuming some other versions had Hynix.

But if you guys want see crappy RAM, try Zeppelin brand with Jeylin chips. Those rarely last over 2 years, assuming you until don't get tired from constant error messages and break it from pure anger.
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John Doe May 23, 2018 @ 7:19am 
Originally posted by Astraea Kisaragi:
But if you guys want see crappy RAM, try Zeppelin brand with Jeylin chips. Those rarely last over 2 years, assuming you until don't get tired from constant error messages and break it from pure anger.

I'm not sure if those RAM are available outside of middleeastern Euro. But yeah, I saw them and they were cheap. Probably total crap. Lol.
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Omega May 23, 2018 @ 7:19am 
Wanna see more crappy RAM? Try Team Group, 1 in 20 sticks is guaranteed to be deffective. I Memtest all prebuilds which use mainly Team Group crap so I know.

The WD Blue drives perform about the same, 1 in 20 is deffective. Dead sectors.
Last edited by Omega; May 23, 2018 @ 7:21am
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tacoshy May 23, 2018 @ 7:23am 
Originally posted by Astraea Kisaragi:
Crucial are probably the only RAM producing company which uses only very own modules and all models are Micron.

See above. Crucial is not a company, the company is Micron. Crucial is nothing else then a Series branding name from Micron.
As OC'ler I find Samsung B-Die much more reliant then hynix and Micron combined. If you dont care to get every little drop of performance out of the PC it is fine. If you want to shoot at maximum performance I would spend mostly the 10$ more.

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/#s=403200&Z=16384002&sort=price&page=1

and currently the Trident Z comes cheapest at 3200MHz and it uses Samsung.
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Astraea Kisaragi May 23, 2018 @ 7:23am 
What caught me on Zeppelin was the design. The golden color with the german iron cross looked cool, as a designer myself I can value that. But thats probably the only good thing. RAM should last lifetime, but those doesn't last even warranty. Luckily at least it fails inside warranty.
Seems they are mainly in eastern EU and SEA region.
Last edited by Astraea Kisaragi; May 23, 2018 @ 7:24am
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Omega May 23, 2018 @ 7:27am 
What do you guys think of Geil GWB48GB2400C16DC?

Looks dope.
Last edited by Omega; May 23, 2018 @ 7:27am
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tacoshy May 23, 2018 @ 7:30am 
Originally posted by Omega:
What do you guys think of Geil GWB48GB2400C16DC?


what I think about GeiL? To say it in german:

Geil sind die schlecht

translation: they are baaaaaad. Luckily my shop never sold them.

PS: RAM has first to deliver performance and run stable. the look is optional (vote Trident Z RGB for president :P)
Last edited by tacoshy; May 23, 2018 @ 7:31am
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Omega May 23, 2018 @ 7:32am 
Originally posted by tacoshy:
Originally posted by Omega:
What do you guys think of Geil GWB48GB2400C16DC?


what I think about GeiL? To say it in german:

Geil sind die schlecht

translation: they are baaaaaad. Luckily my shop never sold them.
Just Google the model number. Not something you see every day.
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John Doe May 23, 2018 @ 7:32am 
I've seen those, they're not new. Yeah, the painting is awkward.
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Astraea Kisaragi May 23, 2018 @ 7:33am 
I looked at Geil when I upgraded my previous PC to 16GB, that model seemed fine but was too tall. Then my friend sent me a free kit 2x4GB kit ASint (ASUS) RAM. That wasn't here sold at all, but was appreantly common in Finland and Scandinavia in general where my friend lives.
Thats used Hynix chips, but it was a older Intel i5 where it doesnt mattered.

Btw what is Kingston? I have a Kingston RAM but it says Kingston on chips which is probably BS. They are out from that PC so cannot memtest them with Thaiphoon.
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John Doe May 23, 2018 @ 7:36am 
Originally posted by Astraea Kisaragi:
Btw what is Kingston? I have a Kingston RAM but it says Kingston on chips which is probably BS. They are out from that PC so cannot memtest them with Thaiphoon.

Depends on which kit you're asking. They have a long history with RAM and use ICs from more than one vendor.
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