Display port sound

[Rem4rk4ble]

I'm wondering if I hook up my pc to my AV receiver with a displayport (pc) into an hdmi (receiver) will i be able to get 7.1 sound, and are there any circumstances like specific gpus?

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

Revelene님이 먼저 게시:

The Spoopy Kitteh님이 먼저 게시:

The two of you seem to not be grasping exactly what the situation is.

1. The GPU is capable..but its software won't let it.
2. Both of you are trolling at this time. I have already talked to the OP and I hate to burst your bubbles, but in his case I am right. Stop making it worse for yourselves.
3. Stop trying to start a flame war TheDude.

If it isn't working, then something is configured wrong. And from what I can gather, something about the receiver may be to blame, as the OP was talking about using ARC, and the whole black screen issue.

No trolling here. When everything is configured correctly, it should most certainly work. And I'd be willing to bet that it will work just fine, once the HDMI ARC middle man is out of the picture, and seperate cables are used.

Well, that's the thing. NVIDIA does not allow you to play multichanel through analogue PC speakers (the headphone jacks). It will only do it when an AC3 or other multichannel digital signal is processed. HDCP interfees with it.

[igloosfolly]

So confused at this point. Optical TOSLINK can take the audio from the PC the reciever then decodes it. A good reciever can can decode the signal to 5.1 or 7.1. The decoder is in the reciever and cannot decode lossless Dolby formats. Tos supports AC-3 codec newer versions of Tos can be used to transfer large amounts of data but you wont find em at your home. The GTX cards support Dolby in some form or another via HDMI since like Fermi. If you want headphones then you use signal out from reciver to to a stand alone headphone port.

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

igloosfolly님이 먼저 게시:

So confused at this point. Optical TOSLINK can take the audio from the PC the reciever then decodes it. A good reciever can can decode the signal to 5.1 or 7.1. The decoder is in the reciever and cannot decode lossless Dolby formats. Tos supports AC-3 codec newer versions of Tos can be used to transfer large amounts of data but you wont find em at your home. The GTX cards support Dolby in some form or another via HDMI since like Fermi. If you want headphones then you use signal out from reciver to to a stand alone headphone port.

The point I hgave been trying to make is this...

The sound coming from my 3.5mm speaker jacks...that are meant for surround sound use...are being processed and transmitted to my 5.1 surround sound stereo reciever...through the S/PDiF TOSLink connection. The signals that come from those speakers jacks are ALWAYS encoded by the audio card's firmware before transmitted to the reciever, which then decodes it......otherwise using digital alone without any sort of encoding will always be stuck outputing on 2 chanel stereo.

Beofre anyone gets on my case about all this again...please note that there are other methods of encoding which are lossless that NVIDIA uses to transmit the aufio through HDMI. NVIDIA typically uses Dolby Digtal fomrats.

On a slightly different note...why on earth would ANYONE want to waste the TitanXP's full capcabilities on encoding audio?

[igloosfolly]

I use that setup kinda. Computer Tos to AV reciever. reciever puts out Dolby to surround sound speakers. Head phones are reviever line out to stand alone headphone jack. The only use for my 3.5mm jacks is for some computer speakers that have a three watt amp and a stereo headphone plug.The best you can get out of a 3.5mmjack is stereo. If you have a older sound card it will be basic Dolby AC3 formats and not Dolby HD or Atmos. The newer the GTX card the better the version of Dolby. I dont want to argue but I have achieved what you are trying to do without useing HDMI because my Sherwood Newcastle Reciever does not have HDMI. So throw away whatever POS sound card you have because it is obsolete and do it the right way. One last thing Display Port does not do sound never has never will.

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

igloosfolly님이 먼저 게시:

I use that setup kinda. Computer Tos to AV reciever. reciever puts out Dolby to surround sound speakers. Head phones are reviever line out to stand alone headphone jack. The only use for my 3.5mm jacks is for some computer speakers that have a three watt amp and a stereo headphone plug.The best you can get out of a 3.5mmjack is stereo. If you have a older sound card it will be basic Dolby AC3 formats and not Dolby HD or Atmos. The newer the GTX card the better the version of Dolby. I dont want to argue but I have achieved what you are trying to do without useing HDMI because my Sherwood Newcastle Reciever does not have HDMI. So throw away whatever POS sound card you have because it is obsolete and do it the right way. One last thing Display Port does not do sound never has never will.

Oh I agree. My audio card is a Creative Soundblaster Omni. It's external. The connection to the PC is via USB. My connection to my receiver is TOSLink. The firmware on the audio card handles encoding the signals from "Speaker jack" playback to DDL and sends it over to the receiver. It is capable of DTS as well.

;-)

[igloosfolly]

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[Rem4rk4ble]

igloosfolly님이 먼저 게시:

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Its not the PC giving HDCP issues it is the TV outputting to the receiver when using ARC
To clear things up, I would like to keep the highest sound quality possible while maintaining my video and audio lines separate as to eliminate my visual issue. How it is done, i am not concerned.

What I am concerned about is
-Maintaining 7.1 Sound as I have at the moment
-4k Video output
-Separating Video and audio
-Cheapest solution possible while meeting the other requirements

[Bad 💀 Motha]

PLEASE try it this way...

All via your NVIDIA GPU:

Video Only:
DP male-to-male cable from GPU to Gaming Monitor

DP male to HDMI female Adapter + HDMI male-to-male cable; DP adapter plugs into GPU-side; connect the HDMI to TV/Monitor for a Secondary Display


Audio Only:

HDMI male-to-male cable from GPU to A/V Receiver; then check that Windows is configured on this device for whatever Surround Sound Config you wish to output. On the Receiver also check any digital config settings, such as 5.1 or 7.1 mode, DTS/Dolby, etc... and output through Speakers connected directly to the Receiver


*Always use DP for refresh rates above 60Hz and/or high-res such as 4K

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

Bad_Motha님이 먼저 게시:

PLEASE try it this way...

All via your NVIDIA GPU:

Video Only:
DP male-to-male cable from GPU to Gaming Monitor

DP male to HDMI female Adapter + HDMI male-to-male cable; DP adapter plugs into GPU-side; connect the HDMI to TV/Monitor for a Secondary Display


Audio Only:

HDMI male-to-male cable from GPU to A/V Receiver; then check that Windows is configured on this device for whatever Surround Sound Config you wish to output. On the Receiver also check any digital config settings, such as 5.1 or 7.1 mode, DTS/Dolby, etc... and output through Speakers connected directly to the Receiver


*Always use DP for refresh rates above 60Hz and/or high-res such as 4K

OP wants to keep the cabling separate on different devices. If the onboard audio doesn't offer what they're looking for, a sound card will be required.

DisplayPort audio through an HDMI adapter is out of the question because DP doesn't support ARC.

Furthermore, why do everything through the GPU? Kaboose is wanting to play games at 4K resolutions at 60FPS. Using a TitanXP for audio in general is a waste of its potential.

[Rem4rk4ble]

The Spoopy Kitteh님이 먼저 게시:

Bad_Motha님이 먼저 게시:

PLEASE try it this way...

All via your NVIDIA GPU:

Video Only:
DP male-to-male cable from GPU to Gaming Monitor

DP male to HDMI female Adapter + HDMI male-to-male cable; DP adapter plugs into GPU-side; connect the HDMI to TV/Monitor for a Secondary Display


Audio Only:

HDMI male-to-male cable from GPU to A/V Receiver; then check that Windows is configured on this device for whatever Surround Sound Config you wish to output. On the Receiver also check any digital config settings, such as 5.1 or 7.1 mode, DTS/Dolby, etc... and output through Speakers connected directly to the Receiver


*Always use DP for refresh rates above 60Hz and/or high-res such as 4K

OP wants to keep the cabling separate on different devices. If the onboard audio doesn't offer what they're looking for, a sound card will be required.

DisplayPort audio through an HDMI adapter is out of the question because DP doesn't support ARC.

Furthermore, why do everything through the GPU? Kaboose is wanting to play games at 4K resolutions at 60FPS. Using a TitanXP for audio in general is a waste of its potential.

i dont need ARC, nor do I use it. I could possibly output sound from DP to HDMI input on my Receiver through the non ARC HDMI port or use HDMI to HDMI from receiver to GPU and HDMI to DP ffrom TV to GPU

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

Goose Kaboose님이 먼저 게시:

The Spoopy Kitteh님이 먼저 게시:

OP wants to keep the cabling separate on different devices. If the onboard audio doesn't offer what they're looking for, a sound card will be required.

DisplayPort audio through an HDMI adapter is out of the question because DP doesn't support ARC.

Furthermore, why do everything through the GPU? Kaboose is wanting to play games at 4K resolutions at 60FPS. Using a TitanXP for audio in general is a waste of its potential.

i dont need ARC, nor do I use it. I could possibly output sound from DP to HDMI input on my Receiver through the non ARC HDMI port or use HDMI to HDMI from receiver to GPU and HDMI to DP ffrom TV to GPU

Try it then :-)

[Rem4rk4ble]

Bad_Motha님이 먼저 게시:

PLEASE try it this way...

All via your NVIDIA GPU:

Video Only:
DP male-to-male cable from GPU to Gaming Monitor

DP male to HDMI female Adapter + HDMI male-to-male cable; DP adapter plugs into GPU-side; connect the HDMI to TV/Monitor for a Secondary Display


Audio Only:

HDMI male-to-male cable from GPU to A/V Receiver; then check that Windows is configured on this device for whatever Surround Sound Config you wish to output. On the Receiver also check any digital config settings, such as 5.1 or 7.1 mode, DTS/Dolby, etc... and output through Speakers connected directly to the Receiver


*Always use DP for refresh rates above 60Hz and/or high-res such as 4K

I Do not have a "gaming" monitor nor do I own any. I only use TVs as I feel the size of most monitors is inadequate for my application.

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

Goose Kaboose님이 먼저 게시:

Bad_Motha님이 먼저 게시:

PLEASE try it this way...

All via your NVIDIA GPU:

Video Only:
DP male-to-male cable from GPU to Gaming Monitor

DP male to HDMI female Adapter + HDMI male-to-male cable; DP adapter plugs into GPU-side; connect the HDMI to TV/Monitor for a Secondary Display


Audio Only:

HDMI male-to-male cable from GPU to A/V Receiver; then check that Windows is configured on this device for whatever Surround Sound Config you wish to output. On the Receiver also check any digital config settings, such as 5.1 or 7.1 mode, DTS/Dolby, etc... and output through Speakers connected directly to the Receiver


*Always use DP for refresh rates above 60Hz and/or high-res such as 4K

I Do not have a "gaming" monitor nor do I own any. I only use TVs as I feel the size of most monitors is inadequate for my application.

I still see onboard audio or an audio card as your main option. It keeps things separated and less complicated.

[Rem4rk4ble]

The Spoopy Kitteh님이 먼저 게시:

Goose Kaboose님이 먼저 게시:

I Do not have a "gaming" monitor nor do I own any. I only use TVs as I feel the size of most monitors is inadequate for my application.

I still see onboard audio or an audio card as your main option. It keeps things separated and less complicated.

I dont need to separate whats processing it, just the information feed. My titan can handle it just fine as it does I just need it to send it through separate cables so that my Receiver does not interfere with my video

[Rem4rk4ble]

If the titan had 2 HDMI ports this would be much simpler