Display port sound

[Rem4rk4ble]

I'm wondering if I hook up my pc to my AV receiver with a displayport (pc) into an hdmi (receiver) will i be able to get 7.1 sound, and are there any circumstances like specific gpus?

[darkkterror]

The Spoopy Kitteh eredeti hozzászólása:

Goose Kaboose eredeti hozzászólása:

oh thats right, thats what I wanted to try. I confused that with ARC from the TV

I already explained why that won't work but ok here goes.

The OP will have to use NVIDIA HD Audio to do this...

1.  NVIDIA HD Audio only allows for 2 cahnnel stereo...digital or not...

2.  The OP will be using HDMI for their TV set...the audio through the DP port will yield the same results as number 1....even if they use Video Mirroring.

3. The OP wants to use 7.1 surround sound...mainly to watcvh videos and play games.

4.  The only way the OP will be able to universally get 7.1 Surround Sound is 1 of 2 ways
     a )Use all the output headphoone jacks and use adapters to connect to the stereo reciever.
     b) Use the TOSLink S/PDIF connecotr and fiber optic cable to transmit headphone playback 
         to the reciever (see Screenshot below)

https://imgur.com/a/6A2uuGV?desktop=1

For the love of Gaben, would you kindly stop spewing your blatantly false information? I have been using an Nvidia graphics card to output 7.1 LPCM audio via HDMI since the GTX 480.

"Oh, but Darkk, that's just anecdotal evidence!"

Here's Nvidia's own website[nvidia.custhelp.com] clearly showing 8 channel audio support via HDMI since the GTX 500 series.

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

TheDude eredeti hozzászólása:

Welcome to the world of fighting with Spoopy. Some of us have been doing it for a couple years now.

@Spoopy, the world is a lot bigger than your experience with the limited hardware you have.

Please, stop arguing with those of us who have many years of PROFESSIONAL experience.

TheDude eredeti hozzászólása:

Welcome to the world of fighting with Spoopy. Some of us have been doing it for a couple years now.

@Spoopy, the world is a lot bigger than your experience with the limited hardware you have.

Please, stop arguing with those of us who have many years of PROFESSIONAL experience.

darkkterror eredeti hozzászólása:

Please do not use Youtube to test 5.1/7.1 surround sound. YouTube only plays back in stereo. Look at the comments for any 5.1/7.1 surround sound test video on YouTube and you will see it all over. The people who say they are hearing 5.1 or 7.1 are most likely listening through an audio device (headset or sound card) that actively upsamples stereo audio to 5.1/7.1. Many gaming headsets and sound cards will upsample to surround.

I have my PC hooked up to 7.1 receiver, which does have the full set of 7.1 speakers, connected via HDMI to a GTX 1080. Through this one HDMI cable (yeah, you don't need to split it between two cables), I am running 3840x2160 at 60Hz with 7.1 uncompressed Linear PCM audio. Again, you do not need separate HDMI connections for this.

If I try to watch a 7.1 surround sound test video on Youtube, it only comes out stereo. As I said, Youtube only plays back in stereo. Since I am using HDMI through a graphics card into a receiver, I do not have anything that is trying to upsample the stereo audio signal to 7.1 surround. If I am watching something with stereo audio I get stereo, if I am watching something with surround audio I get surround audio. No upsampling, virtual surround, special audio encoding, nothing.

However, if I play something that actually has true surround sound audio, then my setup works perfectly.

For example, this site[thedigitaltheater.com] has a bunch of Dolby sample videos (MKV files). i find the Spheres v2 (Lossless) sample to be a very good test for 7.1 surround setups. Any youtube video plays in stereo for me, as I said, but the Spheres v2 (Lossless) sample clearly plays in 7.1, with audio distinctly heard from each speaker in my 7.1 setup.

Another example, though it is only 5.1, is here[www2.iis.fraunhofer.de]. Play the video so you also get the visual cue. The 5.1 in this video works flawlessly on my setup, while (again) any YouTube video only plays in Stereo.

TheDude eredeti hozzászólása:

darkkterror eredeti hozzászólása:

Please do not use Youtube to test 5.1/7.1 surround sound. YouTube only plays back in stereo. Look at the comments for any 5.1/7.1 surround sound test video on YouTube and you will see it all over. The people who say they are hearing 5.1 or 7.1 are most likely listening through an audio device (headset or sound card) that actively upsamples stereo audio to 5.1/7.1. Many gaming headsets and sound cards will upsample to surround.

I have my PC hooked up to 7.1 receiver, which does have the full set of 7.1 speakers, connected via HDMI to a GTX 1080. Through this one HDMI cable (yeah, you don't need to split it between two cables), I am running 3840x2160 at 60Hz with 7.1 uncompressed Linear PCM audio. Again, you do not need separate HDMI connections for this.

If I try to watch a 7.1 surround sound test video on Youtube, it only comes out stereo. As I said, Youtube only plays back in stereo. Since I am using HDMI through a graphics card into a receiver, I do not have anything that is trying to upsample the stereo audio signal to 7.1 surround. If I am watching something with stereo audio I get stereo, if I am watching something with surround audio I get surround audio. No upsampling, virtual surround, special audio encoding, nothing.

However, if I play something that actually has true surround sound audio, then my setup works perfectly.

For example, this site[thedigitaltheater.com] has a bunch of Dolby sample videos (MKV files). i find the Spheres v2 (Lossless) sample to be a very good test for 7.1 surround setups. Any youtube video plays in stereo for me, as I said, but the Spheres v2 (Lossless) sample clearly plays in 7.1, with audio distinctly heard from each speaker in my 7.1 setup.

Another example, though it is only 5.1, is here[www2.iis.fraunhofer.de]. Play the video so you also get the visual cue. The 5.1 in this video works flawlessly on my setup, while (again) any YouTube video only plays in Stereo.

Thank you.

You two are more than welcome to test the results.

@darkkterror:
Check out my main setup
https://imgur.com/a/6A2uuGV?desktop=1

The reason you are not getting the surround sound affect is because your web browser does not output to digital directly into 7.1 surround sound....YouTube outputs to PC Speaker...


@TheDude:
You need to test the results for yourself before saying anything about testing the audio on YouTube.....and you know..look at the braoder picture of yout posts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUv4SUS6LZE

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

TheDude eredeti hozzászólása:

The Spoopy Kitteh eredeti hozzászólása:

You two are more than welcome to test the results.

@darkkterror:
Check out my main setup
https://imgur.com/a/6A2uuGV?desktop=1

The reason you are not getting the surround sound affect is becauss your web browser does not output to digital directly into 7.1 surround sound....YouTube outputs to PC Speaker...


@TheDude:
You need to test the results for yourself before saying anything about testing the audio on YouTube.....and you know..look at the braoder picture of yout posts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUv4SUS6LZE

You have me confused with another person. I know to not use Youtube to test multichannel audio.

I know this sucks for you, but almost everything you post about, I've done PROFESSIONALLY. I ran a YT channel for one of the largest medical organizations in the US. Now, go back to your basement.

OH? Why not? Afraid it will actually work? Can you provide proof that the video doesn't do it?

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

TheDude eredeti hozzászólása:

The Spoopy Kitteh eredeti hozzászólása:

OH? Why not? Afraid it will actually work?

Once again, you missed the point.

Oh? There seems to be no point in arguin...so why bother. I have alread talked to the OP abou tall this. You are welcome to test the results yourself using the same audio card on a REAL reciver like I have...

TheDude eredeti hozzászólása:

Welcome to the world of fighting with Spoopy. Some of us have been doing it for a couple years now.

@Spoopy, the world is a lot bigger than your experience with the limited hardware you have.

Please, stop arguing with those of us who have many years of PROFESSIONAL experience.

In the meantime I would refrain from defaming fellow users and harassing them without testing the results for yourself...

[Revelene]

Spoopy... are you just going to overlook the fact that you were proven wrong about Nvidia GPUs only outputting stereo?

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

Revelene eredeti hozzászólása:

Spoopy... are you just going to overlook the fact that you were proven wrong about Nvidia GPUs only outputting stereo?

In the OP' case, that was what is happening. May I please add you so this thread can stay on topic?

[Revelene]

The Spoopy Kitteh eredeti hozzászólása:

Revelene eredeti hozzászólása:

Spoopy... are you just going to overlook the fact that you were proven wrong about Nvidia GPUs only outputting stereo?

In the OP' case, that was what is happening. May I please add you so this thread can stay on topic?

Even when I recommended using entirely seperate cables, you continued to say that it would only output stereo.

This thread is still on topic. No need to go behind the scenes to explain yourself. I just think that if you are going to be giving advice, you should at least have your facts straight.

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

Revelene eredeti hozzászólása:

The Spoopy Kitteh eredeti hozzászólása:

In the OP' case, that was what is happening. May I please add you so this thread can stay on topic?

Even when I recommended using entirely seperate cables, you continued to say that it would only output stereo.

And I explained this many times concerning the OP's case...HIS GPU will only output to Stereo...


The HDMI port on the OP's motherboard is strictly for video and is in no way usable for audio.

Give me a moment and I will find you his motherboard. He and I had a long talk in chat...

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-Z370-E-GAMING/


https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-Z370-E-GAMING/HelpDesk/

[Revelene]

The Spoopy Kitteh eredeti hozzászólása:

Revelene eredeti hozzászólása:

Even when I recommended using entirely seperate cables, you continued to say that it would only output stereo.

And I explained this many times concerning the OP's case...HIS GPU will only output to Stereo...


The HDMI port on the OP's motherboard is strictly for video and is in no way usable for audio.

Give me a moment and I will find you his motherboard. He and I had a long talk in chat...

Again, you don't seem to be understanding. You can use more than one output on a GPU, no need to use the motherboard ports.

You did keep on about Nvidia GPUs only outputting stereo. His GPU will most certainly output more than stereo, if he sets it up correctly.

Clearly he was having some issue with the receiver transmitting video throughput, as he said he was getting black screens as well. Sounds like an issue with the receiver to me. If he uses seperate cables, his GPU will most certainly be able to send video through one and better than stereo audio through the other.

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

Revelene eredeti hozzászólása:

The Spoopy Kitteh eredeti hozzászólása:

And I explained this many times concerning the OP's case...HIS GPU will only output to Stereo...


The HDMI port on the OP's motherboard is strictly for video and is in no way usable for audio.

Give me a moment and I will find you his motherboard. He and I had a long talk in chat...

Again, you don't seem to be understanding. You can use more than one output on a GPU, no need to use the motherboard ports.

You did keep on about Nvidia GPUs only outputting stereo. His GPU will most certainly output more than stereo, if he sets it up correctly.

Clearly he was having some issue with the receiver transmitting video throughput, as he said he was getting black screens as well. Sounds like an issue with the receiver to me. If he uses seperate cables, his GPU will most certainly be able to send video through one and better than stereo audio through the other.

And again you seem to have missed where I stated that the OP's GPU will only let them use Stereo.

OP'sGPU=/=ALL GPU's...It is a uniqe case...

[Revelene]

The Spoopy Kitteh eredeti hozzászólása:

Revelene eredeti hozzászólása:

Again, you don't seem to be understanding. You can use more than one output on a GPU, no need to use the motherboard ports.

You did keep on about Nvidia GPUs only outputting stereo. His GPU will most certainly output more than stereo, if he sets it up correctly.

Clearly he was having some issue with the receiver transmitting video throughput, as he said he was getting black screens as well. Sounds like an issue with the receiver to me. If he uses seperate cables, his GPU will most certainly be able to send video through one and better than stereo audio through the other.

And again you seem to have missed where I stated that the OP's GPU will only let them use Stereo.

OP'sGPU=/=ALL GPU's...It is a uniqe case...

He has a Titan XP... it is capable of surround sound. Don't be silly.

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

Revelene eredeti hozzászólása:

The Spoopy Kitteh eredeti hozzászólása:

And again you seem to have missed where I stated that the OP's GPU will only let them use Stereo.

OP'sGPU=/=ALL GPU's...It is a uniqe case...

He has a Titan XP... it is capable of surround sound. Don't be silly.

Where does he state that?

[Revelene]

The Spoopy Kitteh eredeti hozzászólása:

Revelene eredeti hozzászólása:

He has a Titan XP... it is capable of surround sound. Don't be silly.

Where does he state that?

His profile, my dude. And a post.

Goose Kaboose eredeti hozzászólása:

Bad_Motha eredeti hozzászólása:

Well no, they are not, but I see no point in investing into one, that's for sure.

Ok can you list the model# of your A/V Receiver along with what GPU you're using?

of course,

Titan Xp
Onkyo TX-NR676

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

Revelene eredeti hozzászólása:

The Spoopy Kitteh eredeti hozzászólása:

Where does he state that?

His profile, my dude.

TheDude eredeti hozzászólása:

The Spoopy Kitteh eredeti hozzászólása:

Where does he state that?

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/1693795812290487267/?ctp=2#c1693795812291434409

The two of you seem to not be grasping exactly what the situation is.

1. The GPU is capable..but its software won't let it.
2. Both of you are trolling at this time. I have already talked to the OP and I hate to burst your bubbles, but in his case I am right. Stop making it worse for yourselves and for the community.
3. Stop trying to start a flame war TheDude.

[Revelene]

The Spoopy Kitteh eredeti hozzászólása:

Revelene eredeti hozzászólása:

His profile, my dude.

TheDude eredeti hozzászólása:

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/1693795812290487267/?ctp=2#c1693795812291434409

The two of you seem to not be grasping exactly what the situation is.

1. The GPU is capable..but its software won't let it.
2. Both of you are trolling at this time. I have already talked to the OP and I hate to burst your bubbles, but in his case I am right. Stop making it worse for yourselves.
3. Stop trying to start a flame war TheDude.

If it isn't working, then something is configured wrong. And from what I can gather, something about the receiver may be to blame, as the OP was talking about using ARC, and the whole black screen issue.

No trolling here. When everything is configured correctly, it should most certainly work. And I'd be willing to bet that it will work just fine, once the HDMI ARC middle man is out of the picture, and seperate cables are used.