R3dAlert93 22/jan./2018 às 15:48
Processor?
I am not an expert when it comes to knowing all about specs but I will get to the point. If i take my i7 4790 processor out of my garbage msi z97 pc mate that only supports ddr3 and put it in a new mobo that supports ddr4 will it be compatible or is that processor only made for that specific mobo like the msi i have right now?
Última edição por R3dAlert93; 22/jan./2018 às 16:07
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RGX12 22/jan./2018 às 15:54 
That's a Haswell processor, requiring a motherboard socketed for LGA 1150. You're looking for an H87/Z87 motherboard.
StickyPawz 22/jan./2018 às 15:56 
Find out what chipset the motherboard is ... That will narrow down what processors are compatible for it.
R3dAlert93 22/jan./2018 às 16:02 
Escrito originalmente por StickyPaws:
Find out what chipset the motherboard is ... That will narrow down what processors are compatible for it.

Thank you, i will take a look at one i am ordering.

Its a LGA 1151 mobo that im looking at right now, guess i will have to find one that is a ddr4 mobo that takes LGA 1151 i7 processors. Know any good ones?!

This any good? https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/xwz3r7
Última edição por rotNdude; 23/jan./2018 às 8:48
Small Tiddies L.T 22/jan./2018 às 16:20 
as far as I know the haswell serie is not compatible with ddr4 but ddr3 or 4 won't make a huge impact. The only exemple I have is skylake/kabylake they have some mobo that are compatible. At first sight ddr4 seems to have higher clock 2000+ compared to ddr3 but the latency worse so its not really important. If your mobo and ram are crap you can always change it to a new LGA 1150 mobo and faster ddr3 ram or overclock your ram if you really need that small extra performance.
⛧EyMi Mayhem⛧ 22/jan./2018 às 16:28 
Escrito originalmente por BronzeTalos0966:
This any good? https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/xwz3r7
Decent setup, but make sure the dark rock will fit in your case, the dark rock is ~ 166mm.
If u have no oc plans, grab a cryorig h5 or h7 or so.
Monk 22/jan./2018 às 16:42 
looks good, as you have a z97 board do you have the 4790 or the 4790k ? as the K variant is worth a decent amount second hand which could help with your upgrade costs :)
Mossy Snake 22/jan./2018 às 16:56 
You need a new CPU to use a socket 1151 motherboard. The i7-4790 will not work.
Monk 22/jan./2018 às 17:49 
He has a 8600k in his pcpartpicker list
R3dAlert93 23/jan./2018 às 4:19 
Escrito originalmente por Monk:
looks good, as you have a z97 board do you have the 4790 or the 4790k ? as the K variant is worth a decent amount second hand which could help with your upgrade costs :)

Nope, its just a 4790 not the K series. Plus i regret buying a pre build computer from shop owners, they are full of rubbish what they say. Feel like i got mug written on my forehead. Thats the thing with pre builders, in for the money and couldnt careless about the actual customer. I feel so frigging stupid.

How about this? https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ Would it be compatible with my i7 4790?

But here is my current specs below, i just want to find a good ddr4 mobo that is compatible for my i7 4790 processor and specs.

Computer Information:
Manufacturer: MSI
Model: MS-7850
Form Factor: Desktop
No Touch Input Detected

Processor Information:
CPU Vendor: GenuineIntel
CPU Brand: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790 CPU @ 3.60GHz
CPU Family: 0x6
CPU Model: 0x3c
CPU Stepping: 0x3
CPU Type: 0x0
Speed: 3600 Mhz
8 logical processors
4 physical processors
HyperThreading: Supported
FCMOV: Supported
SSE2: Supported
SSE3: Supported
SSSE3: Supported
SSE4a: Unsupported
SSE41: Supported
SSE42: Supported
AES: Supported
AVX: Supported
CMPXCHG16B: Supported
LAHF/SAHF: Supported
PrefetchW: Supported

Operating System Version:
Windows 10 (64 bit)
NTFS: Supported
Crypto Provider Codes: Supported 311 0x0 0x0 0x0

Video Card:
Driver: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070
DirectX Driver Name: nvldumd.dll
Driver Version: 23.21.13.9065
DirectX Driver Version: 23.21.13.9065
Driver Date: 1 3 2018
OpenGL Version: 4.6
Desktop Color Depth: 32 bits per pixel
Monitor Refresh Rate: 60 Hz
DirectX Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070
VendorID: 0x10de
DeviceID: 0x1b81
Revision: 0xa1
Number of Monitors: 1
Number of Logical Video Cards: 1
No SLI or Crossfire Detected
Primary Display Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Desktop Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Primary Display Size: 21.77" x 12.17" (24.92" diag)
55.3cm x 30.9cm (63.3cm diag)
Primary Bus: PCI Express 16x
Primary VRAM: 8191 MB
Supported MSAA Modes: 2x 4x 8x

Sound card:
Audio device: MX259 (NVIDIA High Definition A

Memory:
RAM: 16335 Mb

Miscellaneous:
UI Language: English
Media Type: DVD
Total Hard Disk Space Available: 2384099 Mb
Largest Free Hard Disk Block: 1439382 Mb
OS Install Date: Jan 01 1970
Game Controller: XInput Controller #1 detected
VR Headset: None detected

Escrito originalmente por MossyRathalos:
You need a new CPU to use a socket 1151 motherboard. The i7-4790 will not work.

So if i get a new mobo i can't fit my i7 4790 in that mobo that only supports 1150?
Última edição por rotNdude; 23/jan./2018 às 8:49
Andrius227 23/jan./2018 às 5:19 
So are you doing all this just for ddr4 ram? Because that would be dumb.

Ddr4 is not much better than ddr3. And replacing a motherboard just to have ddr4 is a waste of money, and im pretty sure its not even possible with haswell cpu.

And ofc replacing an i7-4790 would be a waste too because its still a very good cpu.
Última edição por Andrius227; 23/jan./2018 às 5:23
R3dAlert93 23/jan./2018 às 5:58 
Escrito originalmente por Andrius227:
So are you doing all this just for ddr4 ram? Because that would be dumb.

Ddr4 is not much better than ddr3. And replacing a motherboard just to have ddr4 is a waste of money, and im pretty sure its not even possible with haswell cpu.

And ofc replacing an i7-4790 would be a waste too because its still a very good cpu.

Im doing this because when my mobo is faulty i know what i want to upgrade to next, plus ddr3 will be outdated soon anyways.
hawkeye 23/jan./2018 às 7:19 
ddr3 and 4 have similar performance (which is measured by frequency divided by CL value, not just by frequency). They still make ddr2 ram, so ddr3 is going to be around for many years.

The 1070 is going to limit the performance of the 4790 or replacement cpu, whichever way you decide to go.

Assuming that you want better performance -

Do you buy a replacement mobo and put the extra towards a new Volta gpu when they arrive?

Or do you buy new cpu / mobo / ram and stick with the 1070 until Volta arrives?
Monk 23/jan./2018 às 8:28 
Your last link is the list, which just shows us our last build, you need to use the permanent link, top left above the build list.

You can't use ddr4 with a 4790, so if your motherboard has died, sadly, your best hope is to pick up a second hand z97 or dig deep for a new CPU, mobo and ram, the cheapest option that will be an upgrade will be the new i5 8400 6 core, or jump ship to the AMD ryzen 5 1600.
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