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I would like to build a gaming PC. My budget is about €1400. Could you tell me some nice but cheap parts to use (even the monitor)?

Or should I simply by a gaming laptop? If this is (for that amount of money) a better choice, could you tell me which laptop is the best?

Thanks in advance.
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I've originally posted this on Reddit in the /r/buildapcforme subreddit but nobody answered.
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Messaggio originale di vadim:
I suggest to drop SSD, reduce RAM size to 8GB if necessary (single DIMM preferrable), but choose better graphics. Best of all GTX 1070. But no less than GTX 1060 6GB.
Why?
SSD doesn't affect FPS at all, RAM in most cases has negligible performance hit. Thus, you will have better (or much better) FPS from very beginning. At ultra settings. But there is another reason al well - its very easy to add RAM and SSD to PC, but you will need to sell your old graphics to upgrade it. Do you realize, that you will lose most of its cost?
16 GB are futureproof, SSD too, GPU can be easily replaced when he will have the bucks.
He also can sell that GPU within one year and still earn at least 150$.
Messaggio originale di vadim:
SSD doesn't affect FPS at all, RAM in most cases has negligible performance hit. Thus, you will have better (or much better) FPS from very beginning. At ultra settings. But there is another reason al well - its very easy to add RAM and SSD to PC, but you will need to sell your old graphics to upgrade it. Do you realize, that you will lose most of its cost?
Yeah. It's 'cos I have some knowladge on computers (I'm learning to program), but, before paying 1400 euros i ask to people who know these things better than me.
Thanks for the help.
Messaggio originale di Infinity Josh:
16 GB are futureproof, SSD too, GPU can be easily replaced when he will have the bucks.
He also can sell that GPU within one year and still earn at least 150$.
OMG :steamfacepalm:
Messaggio originale di Infinity Josh:
16 GB are futureproof, SSD too, GPU can be easily replaced when he will have the bucks.
He also can sell that GPU within one year and still earn at least 150$.
But I think is simplier to upgrade RAM.
Messaggio originale di vadim:
Messaggio originale di Infinity Josh:
16 GB are futureproof, SSD too, GPU can be easily replaced when he will have the bucks.
He also can sell that GPU within one year and still earn at least 150$.
OMG :steamfacepalm:


GPUs are never futureproof, every gen tells it.

Messaggio originale di angec04 | trade.tf:
Messaggio originale di Infinity Josh:
16 GB are futureproof, SSD too, GPU can be easily replaced when he will have the bucks.
He also can sell that GPU within one year and still earn at least 150$.
But I think is simplier to upgrade RAM.

RAM should run dual channel, and should have to be purchased same time to avoid frequent compatibility issues...
Ultima modifica da rotNdude; 23 gen 2018, ore 14:02
To upgrade RAM you just buy another DIMM and itsert it. Takes 2-3 mins. Installing SSD takes relatively the same (screw in 4 screws and plug in SATA cable). You pay only for RAM and SSD itself. To upgrade graphics you need to SELL your old. And you will lose your money on it.
No user in his sane mind will buy GTX 1060 3GB to upgrade it within an year.
Messaggio originale di Infinity Josh:
RAM should run dual channel, and should have to be purchased same time to avoid frequent compatibility issues...
Sorry, but this is pure BS.
Ultima modifica da vadim; 22 gen 2018, ore 13:02
Ok, so could you do the list of the ultimate gaming pc for 1300 euros?
Without minutor because by now 0'llI use a FHD tv I already have.
And about 160 € for mouse and keayboard.

Thanks.

I just don't know what to chose for the best.

If the GPU is better I'll buy the new Nvidia, I'll change it later 'cos I have to wait till this summer at least to buy the pc.
Ultima modifica da rotNdude; 23 gen 2018, ore 6:58
Messaggio originale di angec04 | trade.tf:
Ok, so could you do the list of the ultimate gaming pc for 1300 euros?
Without minutor because by now 0'llI use a FHD tv I already have.
And about 160 € for mouse and keayboard.

Thanks.

I just don't know what to chose for the best.
Look at my previous rig:
Messaggio originale di vadim:
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/vX27r7 (w/o monitor, OS, SSD)
Messaggio originale di vadim:
To upgrade RAM you just buy another DIMM and itsert it. Takes 2-3 mins. Installing SSD takes relatively the same (screw in 4 screws and plug in SATA cable). You pay only for RAM and SSD itself. To upgrade graphics you need to SELL your old. And you will lose your money on it.
No user in his sane mind will buy GTX 1060 3GB to upgrade it within an year.

1060 3gb is the best choice for high settings FXAA a 1920x1080x60Hz.
1050ti performs 30% worse.
Messaggio originale di Infinity Josh:
1060 3gb is the best choice for high settings FXAA a 1920x1080x60Hz.
1050ti performs 30% worse.
Its fairly stupid to buy either for EUR 1300 rig.
Messaggio originale di vadim:
Messaggio originale di angec04 | trade.tf:
Ok, so could you do the list of the ultimate gaming pc for 1300 euros?
Without minutor because by now 0'llI use a FHD tv I already have.
And about 160 € for mouse and keayboard.

Thanks.

I just don't know what to chose for the best.
Look at my previous rig:
Messaggio originale di vadim:
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/vX27r7 (w/o monitor, OS, SSD)
hanged the motherboard just cos I said 50 € more are ok
Messaggio originale di Infinity Josh:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jtRkvV

Later replace the graphics.

Since u marked that one op, I hope it will not mean you will buy it
'cos I have to wait till this summer at least to buy the pc.

Just make a thread when you have the money. Alot will change in the next 6 months with new CPUs and probably new Nvidia GPUs.
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