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I beg to differ, the main factor that makes a drive 'game drive or not' is fragmentation, the more fragmented a game is the worse it will be, and this goes for 5200rpm up to 15000rpm, no hdd is immune to this, but ssds nearly eliminate seak time, im considering getting a 2tb sata ssd as a mass game drive in the coming year, but right now is not the time, im looking at the cheapest hdd I can replace the problemed one with, and these are usb low rpm drives, i'm just having an issue with does usb3 have an overhead issue that isn't easily seen on paper or not. would it be a big enough problem that I would rather gut the enclosure or is it good enough I can just say screw it and use it as is.
which games do not do, they only read parts as they are needed
a 5400rpm or slower drive will have increased load times over a fragged 7200rpm drive
usb 2.0 will also slow down a drives data transfer rate, fragged or not will make no difference
RPM speed isn't the only factor in drive performance. There's plenty of current 5400 rpm drives that are actually faster than 7200 rpm drives.
Regardless HDDs are so slow that position any HDD as a "gaming" drive makes about as much sense to me as fussing over dialup modems and claiming one was a gaming modem (well they did exist, but it was useless PR nonsense).
WD Gold cost the same as WD Black but massivly outperforms it espcially with the 8-12TB drives. WD Gold uses a high ammount of single disk's within a HDD spiining all at 7200 RPM making it incredible fast with read speeds of above 300MB/s.
Besides Gold has longer warranty and comes with a lifetime premium customer support. Often is even cheaper then WD Black
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external HDD's suck. Professionals build their own external drives by using faster 3.5" drives and putting them in an USB 3.1 encasing. The drives you buy as external are low quality 2.5" drives normally.
i'm in the 5-8tb range for external, they cant put 2.5s in them
also in this range, typically you are getting a higher end drive, one of the fun things is when these drives are taken apart and people see they aren't using the lowest end drive in the external enclosure.
there are better options, but this is also my game drive, it's a drive where if all the data is gone tomorrow it's not real issue to me.
my main question is if leaving it the usb3 enclosure is going to hurt me significantly enough that removing it and installing internally would be better.
gaming modems, at least the last time I looked them up, had far better quality of service features, and more options for you to go through, such as limiting programs to certain caps, I believe the killer ones were also some of the best you could get at the time quality wise, at least on a consumer user friendly level, and are still some of the better ones put on consumer motherboards.
as for game drive, an ssd caps at around 300-400 read speed in most games where nothing faster will make a difference, having an nvme as a boot drive and having the space to test this out, sure, some games load faster, and some games stream textures better, but it's all relative, most games dont decrease the load time by a factor of 20X even though thats about how much faster my nvme is then my hdd. a worst case scenario for gaming and texture streaming was rage, and on a fresh 5200 drive around when the game hit its first free weekend, the game was more then playable, so long as you did not play like a squirrel who just did a line of coke.
As far as transfer rates, USB3 and a 2.25” 5400RPM external hard disk is perfectly fine for gaming. Transfer speeds on mine can get up to 120 megabytes (not megabits) per second.
learn how hdds work
similar model 2.5 and 3.5in hdds have similar data density
the smaller one will have less storage space
if its a lower rpm it will be nowhere near the read speed of the 3.5in ver
at the same rpm
D = 2 Pi R
larger R = larger D
lower the smaller ones RPM and the difference gets even greater
When was the last time you looked up dialup gaming modems? Regardless it was nonsense, because the problem wasn't the modems, it was analog dialup connections.The best dialup modem in the world isn't going to make up for the deficiencies of dialup. So fussing over which was the best is a waste of time. And I feel that way about HDDs, so much so my current system is all SSD space and I plan to never buy an HDD again. And now SSD prices are so low maybe we're getting to the point where I'm not the only one with several TB of SSD space.
Modem probably isn't the right term, the chipset on the computer that handles the ethernet traffic. back in the day with dial up I believe, the gaming modems would typically allow for far better and easier QoS then non gaming, and last time I looked into this was 2 years ago when I was buying my motherboard, I wish I could have gotten a killer chipset as it would allow me to do some things I had to buy a better router for on my computer, or a dual setup like some of them had where it was an intel ethernet and a killer one.
600$... nah, ill pass on that. I am personally looking into getting a 1tb ssd that I can move games to from the hdd, just games that im actively playing or benefit from the speed, planning to have it work as a scratch disc of sorts due to another program I use eating up around 110 gb of space on my nvme but it not benefiting much form the extra speed... at least extra speed beyond just being a ssd.
my choice is between a 5tb for around 80$ and a 8tb for 150$, there is no I get to pick and choose about this.
granted I have a 512 nvme ssd for boot that I move games to when they are actively being played and the benefit from it... its shocking how many games only gain 5-10% rather than 2000% or as the hdd currently goes 5000% speed boosts in loading. 8tb will likely keep everything more or less unfragmented for a good few years.
Right so when I said dialup modems, a very specific thing. And I'm remembering products and reviews for dialup modems marketed as gaming modems back in 1999-2000, which should be fairly obvious that subject is ancient history seeing as no one has fussed over dialup performance or hardware since what 2002? You thought you could just substitute modern NICs into my comment and argue about that instead? Smooth.
Also the product I am remembering, the biggest feature of their gaming mode was to limit the normal 56.6k speed to 33.6k. I think the idea was you'd see less fluctuation in the connection that way and that may yield a better experience. Surprisingly not many people bought into the idea. And reviews didn't seem to amazed by the solution, if I recall.
Because my original point was: You should spend about as much time fussing over HDD performance as you would 56k dialup modem performance: as in no time. Because no matter how you look at it, they're both slow as crap and if you care about performance get a SSD or get broadband... not trying to optimize for the slowest/most dated technology.
The main problem I have is my choice is between 2 hdds, both of them are external, but both can be removed and put in the computer if need be, but i'm wondering if the need is there, I never had a usb 3 external hdd, I honestly don't know if there is some kind of overhead Im getting into or if I should say screw it, and put the external drive internal and potentially use whatever warranty it may have.
Usb3 is the same as usb2, just with higher maximum speed. You will not have any problems as even the fastest hdds and even ssd's use way less bandwidth than usb3 is capable of.
Although i would suggest getting a hdd that is at least 7200rpm for gaming. Because 5400rpm hdd's may have trouble running some games and can cause stuttering/freezing, particulary open world games or some racing/driving games because they have no loading screens and therefore are constantly loading everything in real time.
I have had first hand experience with that in the past. I used to have a spare WD Green 2tb 5400rpm drive and i tried using it for steam games and i remember that games like GTA5 and Euro Truck Simulator 2 were completely unplayable because that hdd could not keep up.
Edit: You should look into sshd's, probably best option for mass game storage. Cheap and fast.