would it be worth upgrading to an AMD 200ge or just save up for ryzen 3 2200g?

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to preface this, my current situation doesn't really allow me to just spend money as i please (too young for a job currently) hence why this might seem like an "obvious" question for those in a position to do so.

now, i've had my PC for about a year and it's been doing OK. i kind of want to upgrade it however because it can barely run forza horzion 3. poor optimization be damned, i really want to play it with my current, really budget setup. one of the weakest links in my system appears to be my CPU.

I am currently running an AMD A8 9600 which is pretty stinky in terms of gaming. It's based off of the AM4 platform so upgrading to a zen based CPU is no worries.

i am well aware the 2200g would be overall better but, the 200ge is far cheaper compared to the ryzen. also from my research, the 200ge performs similar to the pentium g4560 (usually an average difference of no more than 10 frames) which is the CPU i wanted when originally planning out my PC so thats another reason why i'm considering.

thanks!

[r.linder]

2200G. 200GE is quite awful for gaming even compared to pentiums.

[flanker]

Originally posted by Escorve:

2200G. 200GE is quite awful for gaming even compared to pentiums.

oh? from the benchmark videos i've seen they look pretty close to pentiums BUT, videos arent really good at showing microstutter and othersuch crap so, you may have a point

[r.linder]

Originally posted by FalloutFloyd:

Originally posted by Escorve:

2200G. 200GE is quite awful for gaming even compared to pentiums.

oh? from the benchmark videos i've seen they look pretty close to pentiums BUT, videos arent really good at showing microstutter and othersuch crap so, you may have a point

A good pentium system will outperform it for barely more money. I wouldn't use a 200GE in anything above a good performing office PC personally.

[_I_]

from the apu to apu is a lateral move

either get a pentium g or i3 at that price or ryzen 2600 or better

what mobo do you have?

[flanker]

Originally posted by _I_:

from the apu to apu is a lateral move

either get a pentium g or i3 at that price or ryzen 2600 or better

what mobo do you have?

dude the 2600 costs $250. thats far too pricey for me.

i have an a320 motherboard so i can atleast use zen but can't OC or anything

also i forgot to mention i currently have a 750TI in my pc as well so its not the APU bit im concerned about :P

[_I_]

or r5 1600
or find a used i5/i7 (3xxx-4xxx+) office pc

ryzen 1 has around 2nd gen i5 core performance
the fm and am4 ahtlon apus are way below that mark

[flanker]

Originally posted by _I_:

or r5 1600
or find a used i5/i7 (3xxx-4xxx+) office pc

ryzen 1 has around 2nd gen i5 core performance
the fm and am4 ahtlon apus are way below that mark

sounds like a good idea. might go that route.

[hawkeye]

On AU ebay there are old i7-2600's selling for $200 - complete pc plus win10 minus graphics card. You could ask the seller if your 750 will fit in the system. I use an i7-2600 with a 1080ti.

[_I_]

gtx 750 is a 75w gpu, most do not need pci-e power connectors
and some are low profile, will work in slim cases with the lp bracket

[Overseer]

You could also try to snatch a used Ryzen 1300X on platforms like ebay. They sell between 60-80 USD on US ebay.
The 200GE is definately not worth it.

[Omega]

First make sure your motherboard has a BIOS update available which gives it support for 2nd gen Ryzen. If you own a prebuild it's unlikely to have one meaning you will be stuck with Ryzen 1st gen.

[r.linder]

Originally posted by FalloutFloyd:

Originally posted by _I_:

from the apu to apu is a lateral move

either get a pentium g or i3 at that price or ryzen 2600 or better

what mobo do you have?

dude the 2600 costs $250. thats far too pricey for me.

i have an a320 motherboard so i can atleast use zen but can't OC or anything

If a mainstream CPU costs far too much, then PC gaming probably isn't for you because even entry level costs 450~600$ depending on hardware and country. The general idea is that the best entry-level gaming system would be a 2200G with 8GB DDR4-2666~3000 with an RX 570 8G (Some 8G models are only 20$ more than the cheapest 4G model).

You also made a huge mistake getting an A320 because they're all dirt cheap and tend to lack VRM cooling despite supporting XFR boost, which is a problem if there's no heatsinks on the power delivery (it's all lined up around the CPU socket) because there is a potential of mosfets dying if they get too hot for too long.
The way I see it, if you can't afford the mainstream entry level or mid-range, you shouldn't be buying into PC gaming, you should be saving up. Even used older components are pointless now because of IPC and games starting to make use of more threads.

[upcoast]

Originally posted by FalloutFloyd:

Originally posted by _I_:

from the apu to apu is a lateral move

either get a pentium g or i3 at that price or ryzen 2600 or better

what mobo do you have?

dude the 2600 costs $250. thats far too pricey for me.

i have an a320 motherboard so i can atleast use zen but can't OC or anything

also i forgot to mention i currently have a 750TI in my pc as well so its not the APU bit im concerned about :P

It always seems funny how fanatical ppl get about their cpu but totally cheap out on a gtx750ti.
For me forza horizon 3 runs like a dream on my old fx8350 and Rx 580.

Tbh you've got a double edged sword going with the 9600 and 750ti you basically need to fix both.

[flanker]

Originally posted by upcoast:

Originally posted by FalloutFloyd:

dude the 2600 costs $250. thats far too pricey for me.

i have an a320 motherboard so i can atleast use zen but can't OC or anything

also i forgot to mention i currently have a 750TI in my pc as well so its not the APU bit im concerned about :P

It always seems funny how fanatical ppl get about their cpu but totally cheap out on a gtx750ti.
For me forza horizon 3 runs like a dream on my old fx8350 and Rx 580.

Tbh you've got a double edged sword going with the 9600 and 750ti you basically need to fix both.

yeah nah yeah nah but the 750ti isnt a *horrible* card by any means. it still somehow manages to at least play all the newer games. i do reckon it is most likely a CPU bottleneck due to A) how ♥♥♥♥ the a8 9600 is and B) the fact that i dont think frequent stutters are a GPU issue. i could be wrong about this but, thats what i think the issue is. i may be able to upgrade to an rx 560 or something soon idk

Originally posted by Escorve:

Originally posted by FalloutFloyd:

dude the 2600 costs $250. thats far too pricey for me.

i have an a320 motherboard so i can atleast use zen but can't OC or anything

If a mainstream CPU costs far too much, then PC gaming probably isn't for you because even entry level costs 450~600$ depending on hardware and country. The general idea is that the best entry-level gaming system would be a 2200G with 8GB DDR4-2666~3000 with an RX 570 8G (Some 8G models are only 20$ more than the cheapest 4G model).

You also made a huge mistake getting an A320 because they're all dirt cheap and tend to lack VRM cooling despite supporting XFR boost, which is a problem if there's no heatsinks on the power delivery (it's all lined up around the CPU socket) because there is a potential of mosfets dying if they get too hot for too long.
The way I see it, if you can't afford the mainstream entry level or mid-range, you shouldn't be buying into PC gaming, you should be saving up. Even used older components are pointless now because of IPC and games starting to make use of more threads.

yeah i've realized that building on such a tight budget was a mistake. at this point its either trying to fix as much as i can without completley rebuilding or just yeet and buy an xbox one.

[Nabster]

Get a 1600 or 2600 and you don't have to upgrade in 5 years. If you upgrade to 2200g, you still ask the same upgrade question next year.