DoomSlayer Apr 28, 2019 @ 2:04pm
GTX 970 - Low power usage (Help?)
I recently picked up AC odyssey on uplay. Set the graphics to ultra-high, as my card will be able to handle it. As soon as I got into game my fps tanked from 45 to 20-25 and stayed there. On full load the card will use up to 300watts. Right now its using half of its full capability.

The GPU power was seemingly locked to 50%. This happened on Metro exodus as well. I would be running around getting 60+fps until it all of a sudden dropped to 30 or 40fps. This problem is seriously♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥me off.

I never had this problem before, and getting constant fps drops out of the blue is pretty darn annoying. Considering the fact that i'm one of the only ones who had this issue with their 970s. I've read some posts on msi's website, nvidias and evgas none were a help to me.

As seen in the photo below, gpu power is at 55% out of 100. The core clock, memory clock and usage is maxed out. And the gpu is using only 158 watts. Plus the temperature is only at 54*C it should be around 60 to 65 degrees on full load.

https://imgur.com/a/KpLn13f

Does anyone who why this is happening? Thanks!
Last edited by DoomSlayer; Apr 28, 2019 @ 3:12pm
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upcoast Apr 28, 2019 @ 2:11pm 
https://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-970/specifications

I dunno where you're getting that it sucks 300w ^ it's only 145w stock.

https://www.techspot.com/review/1795-metro-exodus-benchmarks/

Max settings 1080p dips to 37FPS ^.

If you just got the card clean off the old previous gpu drivers with DDU and reinstall.

https://www.guru3d.com/files-categories/videocards-handy-utilities.html

Ps, on a side note, if you want very high/ultra settings even at 1080p you should be looking into the GTX1070/70ti or GTX1660ti these days.
Last edited by upcoast; Apr 28, 2019 @ 2:20pm
Ogami Apr 28, 2019 @ 2:15pm 
The GtX 970 does not have a 300 watt load under power. That is for the ENTIRE system.
The GTX 970 itself is 145 watt. Also its used 97% in your screenshot, so it is at full load.

ALSO, the GTX 970 is not strong enough to run Odyssey at Ultra High. Even my old
GTX 1080 dipped below 60 FPS in many scenes on that setting.
On top of that you have a fairly old CPU and Odyssey is massively CPU dependent.
It profits a ton from modern 6 core CPUs.

I honestly think you need to dial back some settings to High and even Medium.
Especially "Volumetric Clouds" which costs like 30% performance on Very High compared to Medium.
Last edited by Ogami; Apr 28, 2019 @ 2:16pm
DoomSlayer Apr 28, 2019 @ 2:17pm 
Originally posted by upcoast:
https://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-970/specifications

I dunno where you're getting that it sucks 300w ^ it's only 145w stock.

This is what it look like on full load. In game it would only use half of the power available to it, for whatever reason I just don't know... Some games wouldn't have the issue, at full load my cpu would start bottle necking the card. But at 1920x1080p in odyssey, I am certain my pc should be able to get more than 20fps.
https://imgur.com/a/boxUP5K
upcoast Apr 28, 2019 @ 2:26pm 
Originally posted by Flukey:
Originally posted by upcoast:
https://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-970/specifications

I dunno where you're getting that it sucks 300w ^ it's only 145w stock.

This is what it look like on full load. In game it would only use half of the power available to it, for whatever reason I just don't know... Some games wouldn't have the issue, at full load my cpu would start bottle necking the card. But at 1920x1080p in odyssey, I am certain my pc should be able to get more than 20fps.
https://imgur.com/a/boxUP5K

I honestly don't think your power monitor is reading right 273w is out to lunch for the GTX970, GPU usage is 99% which is good that's what matters.

https://www.techspot.com/review/1822-geforce-gtx-970-vs-radeon-r9-290/

More benchies to compare ^.
Last edited by upcoast; Apr 28, 2019 @ 2:29pm
r.linder Apr 28, 2019 @ 2:27pm 
Originally posted by Flukey:
Originally posted by upcoast:
https://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-970/specifications

I dunno where you're getting that it sucks 300w ^ it's only 145w stock.

This is what it look like on full load. In game it would only use half of the power available to it, for whatever reason I just don't know... Some games wouldn't have the issue, at full load my cpu would start bottle necking the card. But at 1920x1080p in odyssey, I am certain my pc should be able to get more than 20fps.
https://imgur.com/a/boxUP5K

Lower your settings. You can't expect to get 60 FPS at high settings with a 970 4G in ACO.
upcoast Apr 28, 2019 @ 2:38pm 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEt8wzfGfhI

Even with a little better Rx 580 you'd need to drop settings down to Med to be closer to 60.
DoomSlayer Apr 28, 2019 @ 2:50pm 
But its still very strange how games like WWZ, running maxed out and it'll still get above 85+fps on the first mission.

The power usage, or the TDP % was at 75% compared to ~55 in odyssey.
You can also notice the rise in temperature too, because the game was using and or demanding more power.

https://imgur.com/a/dk9m0bd

High power usage was because I modified the bios on my card. I also raised the maximum voltage to 1.312v. On gpu-z the pixel fillrate is at 87.6 and texture fillrate is at 162.8. Memory bandwidth is running at 266 gb/s @ 4158mhz...

These settings should be able to run odyssey on ultra at around 30-40fps minimum if it was using its max power TDP.

I just do not understand why I have such a low power draw/usage while other games are seemingly fine? I am using drivers 425.31 if that would be any help?

Lowered the settings to high in odyssey, and... I lost fps????? Now I am very confused. So it isn't my GPU causing the issue... Wtf...

Much lower GPU usage, to be expected with less graphical demand on lower settings, and power usage was lower on top of that... Do I have a cpu bottleneck or something? Now I am completely out of ideas.

https://imgur.com/a/8VwVE73 x

I remember back when I had my ultra wide monitor, in bf1 I had a cpu bottleck issue so I used DSR to enable 3440x1440 or 3840x1620 resolultion and I would keep the settings maxed out. I would get 45fps with lower cpu usage by putting more load on the gpu.

Hell I found this old video I made, ~40fps at 3620x1527.
Last edited by rotNdude; Apr 29, 2019 @ 9:37am
r.linder Apr 28, 2019 @ 3:28pm 
Originally posted by Flukey:
Lowered the settings to high in odyssey, and... I lost fps????? Now I am very confused. So it isn't my GPU causing the issue... Wtf...

Much lower GPU usage, to be expected with less graphical demand on lower settings, and power usage was lower on top of that... Do I have a cpu bottleneck or something? Now I am completely out of ideas.

https://imgur.com/a/8VwVE73

I remember back when I had my ultra wide monitor, in bf1 I had a cpu bottleck issue so I used DSR to enable 3440x1440 or 3840x1620 resolultion and I would keep the settings maxed out. I would get 45fps with lower cpu usage by putting more load on the gpu.

Hell I found this old video I made, ~40fps at 3620x1527.

The lower the resolution and settings, the higher the demand on the CPU. It's important to find the right balance of settings and not to go too low or too high for your particular GPU so that the CPU won't bottleneck at 1080p. If you're running above 1080p, that will destroy FPS because the 970 is not for 1440p, unlike the 980 Ti.
Last edited by r.linder; Apr 28, 2019 @ 3:29pm
OLDMAN🎅 Apr 29, 2019 @ 4:44am 
I have a Core i7-7700K MSI Nvidia GTX 970-4GB and it doesn't use 300 watt use TechPowerUp GPU-Z

http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/19/04/29/q26.png

and my USB Battery Backup shows 180 watts jump to 372 watts running GPU-Z
Last edited by OLDMAN🎅; Apr 29, 2019 @ 4:58am
DoomSlayer Apr 29, 2019 @ 12:21pm 
Originally posted by OLDMAN:
I have a Core i7-7700K MSI Nvidia GTX 970-4GB and it doesn't use 300 watt use TechPowerUp GPU-Z

http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/19/04/29/q26.png

and my USB Battery Backup shows 180 watts jump to 372 watts running GPU-Z

I modified my GPU bios to allow for higher power usage. In the bios file I set the maximum power TDP to 287watts, from the original (110% in afterburner) 225watts. I increased the maximum voltage to 1.312v from whatever the maximum voltage was when overclocking.

This allowed me to have a +220 core overclock 1575mhz or 1590 depending on the game. I also run my memory clock with a +620 offset, 4160mhz.

My GPU never surpassed 60c while gaming using the stock bios. With my modded bios, it will hit up to 70c on full load as I am putting 250+watts through the air cooler.

GPUZ
https://imgur.com/a/8MDT9JU (Power Throttled)

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The problem with this game, assassins creed odyssey, and many others, is where my GPU isn't using more than 50% power of its TDP. The core and memory clock speeds will run maxed out, but the power does not budge from 50%. Its like the game is not fully using the GPU.

Could the issue be my CPU? I tried recording via shadowplay, and my fps dropped down to 10 and my cpu usage jumped up to 70-75. This game should be playable on my i7. I seen a video on this game using my cpu, at 3.4ghz not 4.1ghz which is what I am running at.
Last edited by DoomSlayer; Apr 29, 2019 @ 12:39pm
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