Ps4 disc myth

[Kaur]

A shopkeeper said to me that digital games take full storage and physical disc takes upto 2gb is this myth or thruth?

[Komrade]

They take around the same, not sure what the shopkeeper means about physical discs taking up to 2GB.

[chiefputsilao✖️ping]

maybe 25GB (blu-ray disc single layer)

[Snow]

If you run in from the disc - it might indeed take little space on HDD. If you install it on your HDD - it will take exactly as much as digital copy would.

[_I_]

sl dvd is 4.7g
dl dvs is 8.5g

ps4 uses bd discs, starting at 25g/layer and can be 10+ layers (250+g)

its safe to say most ps4 games have more than 8g of data on the disc, else they would be on a dvd insead of bd just to cut production costs

[Obsessive Power]

I can see here you guys are not console players. If you were, you would know that the PS4 and Xbox One disc games have to be installed entirely to a hard drive before play, it's not possible to play directly off disc anymore.

It means of course that if a game is 50GB on the disc, it will use 50GB on the HDD.

[Supafly]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Obsessive Power:

It means of course that if a game is 50GB on the disc, it will use 50GB on the HDD.

Nope. If it's 50 GB on disc it will be 50+ on console as data on disc is compressed and needs to be extracted for install.

You are right about they dont run on disc though. Many PC games require a full install nowadays.

Even older pc games did full installs but required the disc to be in the drive as a form of DRM. Bypassed by no CD cracks. While that subject is taboo and I'm not endorsing it I vaguely remember a game had issues running and the devs actually suggested using a no CD crack to get the game running until they could fix it.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

No. When you buy physical disc, it's takes up nearly the same on the console hard drive as digital version does. Just that disc version requires the disc during game launch and sometimes to load a few things from disc during gameplay. GTAV for example it would use the disc for music and some game assets during story mode. Not sure it uses the disc for GTA online since all those updated files would only be on the console local disk drive, but again the disc is required to launch said game anyways. Games via console disks may differ depending on how that actual installer works as some games might have been made to rely more on the disc. But if it is a Multiplayer game you can be sure all of that goes to the console local disk drive as that would get updated over time and such.

[_I_]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Obsessive Power:

I can see here you guys are not console players. If you were, you would know that the PS4 and Xbox One disc games have to be installed entirely to a hard drive before play, it's not possible to play directly off disc anymore.

It means of course that if a game is 50GB on the disc, it will use 50GB on the HDD.

there is still data streamed from the disc while playing
yes some data is installed on the internal drive while playing, along with game patches
but the disc is required and used while playing the games

[Mr Blonde]

Actually the install size on hd will be the exact same whether disc or digital. Once installed the disc is only used for authenticity hence the reason the disc shortly after starting the game will stop spinning. Most games on PS4 can be played while installing which will run from the disc till installed onto hd, the Xbox requires the game to either be installed fully or nearly complete before starting and won’t run from disc while it’s doing it.

A couple of games don’t even have any data on disc apart from authenticity and trigger the download in form of a patch

[Obsessive Power]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von _I_:

there is still data streamed from the disc while playing
yes some data is installed on the internal drive while playing, along with game patches
but the disc is required and used while playing the games

Sorry for reviving the thread but I've been unwell for past few days.

I'm pretty sure this is incorrect. After a game on the Xbox is installed entirely, the disc is only read initially for proof of ownership. After this game is run from the hard drive, no game data is streamed from the disc at all.

Now I couldn't say with any certainty that the console doesn't look for the disc periodically while in-play, but even if it did, I'm pretty sure its not to stream game data as it's already been installed, and anyway, Blu-ray drives are not fast enough for this purpose.

How do I know this? Well it's simple. My nephew came to my house and installed his disc game. We played, and when he left I decided to buy the game myself. I went to the Xbox Store on the console and purchased the game digitally. There was no download, the game that was installed from the disc now runs without the disc.

No offence, but do you actually own a console?

[Cathulhu]

Actually, it depends on the game. Some games do use a hybrid approach where part of the game is installed and part is streamed from the disc. But that was mainly an XBox 360/PS3 thing when they had pitiful small storage space. To be frank, they still do, but less atrocious.
Newer games are going more the full install way.

[_I_]

one way to test it to buy a game from the ps store, that you already have installed from disc
see how much more it has to download before it can play