bladeshredder Nov 22, 2019 @ 12:51pm
NORMAL TEMPS?
i dont know if this is normal or not the temps for the 3700x seem to be all over the place, i did a stress test with (adia extreame while running a few other things and temps reaches 106c then dropped down to 90s then on prime 95 max temps seemed to be around 86-88...idle is about 49-50 and when gaming it varies from 66-76 then all of a sudden jumps to 83 for a few seconds before dropping back down to 70s...i reapplied the thermal paste a few times no diffrence (and using the stoock ryzen cooler) and turned off PBO in the bios so why are these temps so high?
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Komrade Nov 22, 2019 @ 12:53pm 
What are you monitoring temps with?
bladeshredder Nov 22, 2019 @ 12:53pm 
RM
bladeshredder Nov 22, 2019 @ 12:53pm 
and msi afterburner in diffrent games
_I_ Nov 22, 2019 @ 1:01pm 
70c is fine
but alt+tab takes long enough for temps to drop 10-20+c
worry when its 90-100c at load and/or throttling

use hwmonitor, it logs min/max temps
Ochso Nov 22, 2019 @ 1:01pm 
pretty sure the cpu protection would cut in at 95 degrees. what software what temps does ryzen master show ?
bladeshredder Nov 22, 2019 @ 1:11pm 
ryzen master when gaming shows 76-80 depending on what game but most of the time it runs between 66-75
Ochso Nov 22, 2019 @ 1:23pm 
Only thing I can suggest if you are concerned is you can check is that enough cold/cooler air is getting in your case and you are expelling the hotter air away from the intakes..
Does your case have filters? they may need a bit of a dust .

On idle mine runs at 38 -43 and stressed circa 62-70 but mines water cooled so not really relevant

bladeshredder Nov 22, 2019 @ 1:26pm 
these are the temps

ADIA Extreame stress test: reached 106 on ryzen master apparently
prime 95 temps : 80-88
idle temps: 40-50
load temps while gaming :66-75 maybe 80 in a short burst
schizo Nov 22, 2019 @ 1:55pm 
that’s overheating. i recommend to fix it before it gets worse like new psu if it’s a fault.
r.linder Nov 22, 2019 @ 1:58pm 
Sounds like improper mounting of the cooler, it's a (loosely) 65W chip
Bad 💀 Motha Nov 22, 2019 @ 2:00pm 
So it's hitting up to 80*C
What's the problem here?
Get better cpu cooler and more case fans.
bladeshredder Nov 22, 2019 @ 2:33pm 
ive got a 120mm aio cooler but i dont know if it will make much diffrence i made sure the cooler was on correctly and with a pea sized bit of paste pbo is turned off now and on high preformance power plan
Xtenzor Nov 22, 2019 @ 3:01pm 
the stock cooler is not very good and can give really high temps even when mounted correctly. i bought a Be Quiet Dark Rock pro 4 CPU cooler and also a couple of 120 mm exhaust fans. now all is running much cooler. be ready to spend more.
also check if your mobo has got a new BIOS released. also check for up to date chipset drivers by AMD
Last edited by Xtenzor; Nov 22, 2019 @ 3:05pm
TheRandomGuy Nov 22, 2019 @ 9:26pm 
Ryzen is.....weird, when it comes to temperature reading. If I'm not mistaken, it's usually Per-Core, and since the load bounces around on all the cores of the CPU, one moment it may be 35C and jump up to 45C in an instant, and vice versa.

For example, I have a Ryzen 2700X with a Be-Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 Air Cooler installed. My normal temps on idle are between 33-40C (it fluctuates) opening Steam for example pushes the load up to the mid-40s and maybe 50s. Most games push it into the high-50s but as far as I've seen it never really goes past 60 that much.

Also, for reference, I have 2 front 200mm intakes and 1 external 120mm exhaust, and the GPU is a 2060 (non-super) with 2 fans. The GPU is the only part of my PC I've seen to actually hit 70C during load. CPU usually stops at near or at 60C.

Coming from an older PC with a Quad-Core i5-7600K who's idle was always firmly in the 30s the jumping scared the crap out of me initially, but I just learned that it's apparently just a quirk of Ryzen's temperature sensors (I guess anyways - haven't seen anything to indicate problems).

But to go back to the OP's issue, the stock cooler, while nice, isn't the greatest for temperatures. It keeps Ryzen from overheating but temps will go into the 60s and 70s with it. Real shame too, I REALLY wanted to use it for that RGB goodness but my Dark Rock Pro 4 smashes it in performance, and it's whisper quiet on full-load.
r.linder Nov 23, 2019 @ 12:45am 
Originally posted by Xtenzor:
the stock cooler is not very good and can give really high temps even when mounted correctly. i bought a Be Quiet Dark Rock pro 4 CPU cooler and also a couple of 120 mm exhaust fans. now all is running much cooler. be ready to spend more.
also check if your mobo has got a new BIOS released. also check for up to date chipset drivers by AMD

I use the Prism on my 2700X and it rarely ever reaches into the 70s under heavier synthetic loads, rarely above 60 with gaming, and the 3700X uses less power than the 2700X, so in theory, the thermal output should be either lower or the same depending on a few factors.
The ONLY thing that is different from stock is that it's using NT-H2 paste and not the stock paste that comes pre-applied to the cooler.
The only way the Prism would have issues cooling the 3700X would be under heavy multi-threaded workloads that really push it to its peak boost performance.

Originally posted by TheRandomGuy:
Ryzen is.....weird, when it comes to temperature reading. If I'm not mistaken, it's usually Per-Core, and since the load bounces around on all the cores of the CPU, one moment it may be 35C and jump up to 45C in an instant, and vice versa.

For example, I have a Ryzen 2700X with a Be-Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 Air Cooler installed. My normal temps on idle are between 33-40C (it fluctuates) opening Steam for example pushes the load up to the mid-40s and maybe 50s. Most games push it into the high-50s but as far as I've seen it never really goes past 60 that much.

Also, for reference, I have 2 front 200mm intakes and 1 external 120mm exhaust, and the GPU is a 2060 (non-super) with 2 fans. The GPU is the only part of my PC I've seen to actually hit 70C during load. CPU usually stops at near or at 60C.

Coming from an older PC with a Quad-Core i5-7600K who's idle was always firmly in the 30s the jumping scared the crap out of me initially, but I just learned that it's apparently just a quirk of Ryzen's temperature sensors (I guess anyways - haven't seen anything to indicate problems).

But to go back to the OP's issue, the stock cooler, while nice, isn't the greatest for temperatures. It keeps Ryzen from overheating but temps will go into the 60s and 70s with it. Real shame too, I REALLY wanted to use it for that RGB goodness but my Dark Rock Pro 4 smashes it in performance, and it's whisper quiet on full-load.

The reason why temperatures are less "stable" with Ryzen is because of how the boosting works; it's designed to boost whenever it has the thermal headroom, and there is an immediate desire for a higher clock in an instant. You may notice higher clocks and temperatures for a moment when opening things, as it's boosting in response to various commands.
You'll very rarely reach your max temperature listed in software that monitors and displays the maximum achieved temperature during that session, as it's only really doing that in one instant to maximize speed. It takes a sustained and significant load to have it running where it's always running at a drastically high temperature.

These are my own observations from using Ryzen since 2017.
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