cato 2019 年 5 月 27 日 下午 4:37
Looking for a new Monitor
Looking for a new Monitor - 27", WQHD (1440p), 144 Hz, IPS Panel with proper response time, colors and contrast.
I've been doing quite a bit of research and narrowed it down to 3 options. Of course, if you have any other suggestions within same price range, feel free to share them :bigsmile:

Acer XF270HU/XF270HUA:
First off, can someone clarify if HU and HUA are two different monitors, or if people just name them differently? I would assume they're different, but when i search for it on price-comparing sites, it shows both names in the search.
Pros - Seems to be getting a lot of positive reviews, and actually getting fairly close to the marketed 4ms Gray to Gray response time.
Cons - Brightness seems to be lower than most other IPS Panels. Some reviews claim that it's down around ~300 cd/m²,[www.expertreviews.co.uk] while others claim it to be 350 cd/m²,[www.144hzmonitors.com] might have to do with the HU/HUA difference? Honestly, i have no idea how much this number affects the brightness, so if the monitor happens to be around the 300-mark, would that still be sufficient for gaming and watching videos/series?

Asus MG279Q:
Pros - Seems like an overall good monitor, with an average G2G response time of ~5.8 ms if Trace Free is set to 80%, and minimal amount of Overshoot, according to TFTCentral[www.tftcentral.co.uk].
Cons - The monitor is pretty old by now, 4-5 years if i'm right. Not sure if this can bring any potential issues along with it? Also i read somewhere that it doesn't support the full 144hz if you enable FreeSync.

Acer XV272UP:
This is probably the monitor i leaned towards the most, however it has a heavy lack of reviews, and i cannot find any tests on the G2G response time either.
Pros - According to the specifications i found,[www.displayninja.com] this monitor has a brightness of 350 cd/m² like the other monitors, but also has the ability to view HDR-content at 400 cd/m² (only has entry-level HDR), whatever that means?
Also, where the other two monitors claim to have 16,7 million colors (8-bit i suppose?), this one says 1,07 billion colors (called 8-bit + FRC in the review), and 95% DCI-P3, whereas the others "only" claim to have 100% sRGB color coverage. Again, i have no experience with this in real life, so no idea how much it actually impact the color-quality, please let me know what your experiences is with this.
Cons - While the only review i could find was very positive towards this monitor, i found a bunch of people complaining about flickering and bad response times/input lag. Combined with the fact that i couldnt find any actual numbers on the response times, this has kept me from ordering the monitor yet.

If i missed or misunderstood any of the monitor-concepts, please enlighten me. I am very new to all this monitor stuff :bigsmile:
Please let me know if you have any positive/negative experience with the above monitors, or if you can recommend another one in the same pricerange :he_he:
最後修改者:cato; 2019 年 5 月 27 日 下午 5:10
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𝔇ave 2019 年 5 月 28 日 下午 2:11 
引用自 Autumn
引用自 Cato

Thank you for all the answers, and help with research aswell. You definitely gave some food for thought. Hopefully i can make a decision within too long :he_he:
I just had a thought as well, IPS backlight bleed, if it's something you don't want to deal with, TN is the way to go.
exactly the reason i went with TN over IPS. i don't need colour accuracy for gaming. i have seen backlight bleed and it looks terrible. i am very happy with my choice of monitor (ROG PG27V)

my only gripe with it is i got one dead (green) pixel that i notice every so often on dark backgrounds. but that's just bad luck
AllOutPotato 2019 年 5 月 28 日 下午 4:17 
Chiming in on the S2716DG - it's really good for a TN panel and above all an outstanding value when it's on sale (which it is pretty frequently).

As others have mentioned, you can get really nice colors. It should be noted that for me, the colors out of the box were fairly mediocre, and it took some calibration (using both the monitor itself and the Nvidia Control Panel) for the colors to really come through. Viewing angles were also definitely worse than an IPS panel - I can notice some color shift if I move a foot or so off-center. That said, I don't think it's much of an issue since you likely will be looking at the monitor straight on the vast majority of the time.

On sale, the S2716DG goes for $350 (sometimes even down to $300), and the Freesync version ran as low as $250-260 ish a couple days ago. That's an amazing value for a monitor that gets pretty much every checkbox except IPS.
cato 2019 年 5 月 28 日 下午 4:55 
引用自 AllOutPotato
Chiming in on the S2716DG - it's really good for a TN panel and above all an outstanding value when it's on sale (which it is pretty frequently).

As others have mentioned, you can get really nice colors. It should be noted that for me, the colors out of the box were fairly mediocre, and it took some calibration (using both the monitor itself and the Nvidia Control Panel) for the colors to really come through. Viewing angles were also definitely worse than an IPS panel - I can notice some color shift if I move a foot or so off-center. That said, I don't think it's much of an issue since you likely will be looking at the monitor straight on the vast majority of the time.

On sale, the S2716DG goes for $350 (sometimes even down to $300), and the Freesync version ran as low as $250-260 ish a couple days ago. That's an amazing value for a monitor that gets pretty much every checkbox except IPS.

Thank you for the input, always nice to get several opinions on a product.
Something i also came to think about, how much computer power does g-sync and FreeSync require respectively? Are either of them heavy for the system (someone claimed that about g-sync earlier), or does it not affect performance that much?
About the price, i suppose you live in the US? Cheapest S2716DG (no sale) is 3700 kroner here (~$554). The XF270HU and MG279Q is almost the exact same for me. So assuming equal price for these monitors, would you still say the S2716DG is the best option?
Autumn_ 2019 年 5 月 28 日 下午 5:25 
引用自 AllOutPotato
Chiming in on the S2716DG - it's really good for a TN panel and above all an outstanding value when it's on sale (which it is pretty frequently).

As others have mentioned, you can get really nice colors. It should be noted that for me, the colors out of the box were fairly mediocre, and it took some calibration (using both the monitor itself and the Nvidia Control Panel) for the colors to really come through. Viewing angles were also definitely worse than an IPS panel - I can notice some color shift if I move a foot or so off-center. That said, I don't think it's much of an issue since you likely will be looking at the monitor straight on the vast majority of the time.

On sale, the S2716DG goes for $350 (sometimes even down to $300), and the Freesync version ran as low as $250-260 ish a couple days ago. That's an amazing value for a monitor that gets pretty much every checkbox except IPS.
Which revision of the monitor do you have?
(If you take the stand off, it should be on the sticker where you mount the stand to the monitor, the last 2 numbers.)
I'm curious to know.

引用自 Cato
引用自 AllOutPotato
Chiming in on the S2716DG - it's really good for a TN panel and above all an outstanding value when it's on sale (which it is pretty frequently).

As others have mentioned, you can get really nice colors. It should be noted that for me, the colors out of the box were fairly mediocre, and it took some calibration (using both the monitor itself and the Nvidia Control Panel) for the colors to really come through. Viewing angles were also definitely worse than an IPS panel - I can notice some color shift if I move a foot or so off-center. That said, I don't think it's much of an issue since you likely will be looking at the monitor straight on the vast majority of the time.

On sale, the S2716DG goes for $350 (sometimes even down to $300), and the Freesync version ran as low as $250-260 ish a couple days ago. That's an amazing value for a monitor that gets pretty much every checkbox except IPS.

Thank you for the input, always nice to get several opinions on a product.
Something i also came to think about, how much computer power does g-sync and FreeSync require respectively? Are either of them heavy for the system (someone claimed that about g-sync earlier), or does it not affect performance that much?
About the price, i suppose you live in the US? Cheapest S2716DG (no sale) is 3700 kroner here (~$554). The XF270HU and MG279Q is almost the exact same for me. So assuming equal price for these monitors, would you still say the S2716DG is the best option?
G-sync, and Free-sync require no performance to push.
All they do is sync the frame buffer with your FPS, opposite to V-sync, which syncs your FPS to your frame buffer.
If your GPU can get a decent framerate, that's all that matters with either.
AllOutPotato 2019 年 5 月 28 日 下午 5:32 
I have revision A09. When I'd bought the monitor I ran into a lot of reviews that mentioned calibration was necessary to bring out the potential of the monitor. Everyone's experience with color differs, but I did find this to be true for me.

And yeah, at retail price the S2716DG is not as attractive. Unfortunately I can't speak to the other monitors since I don't have knowledge or experience with them ):
Autumn_ 2019 年 5 月 28 日 下午 5:52 
引用自 AllOutPotato
I have revision A09. When I'd bought the monitor I ran into a lot of reviews that mentioned calibration was necessary to bring out the potential of the monitor. Everyone's experience with color differs, but I did find this to be true for me.

And yeah, at retail price the S2716DG is not as attractive. Unfortunately I can't speak to the other monitors since I don't have knowledge or experience with them ):
That's strange, because my rev 07 is fine......Guess there is a bit of variance from the factory then.

And, I found the price pretty decent for a good 1440p144hz monitor, that's one of the reasons why I took it over everything else. (Because it was cheaper, looked better, and was the same panel as the others.)
RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy) 2019 年 5 月 28 日 下午 9:21 
The S2716DG is a great monitor, but if you are coming from IPS or VA you might not like it. I actually returned mine. The monitor was nice, but watching movies on it was nasty. Very washed out colors Darks were good. But if you plan to ghame without any care for immersion or color concern, the Dell S2716DG is a damn good monitor for the price.

For me it was the worst possible choice.
cato 2019 年 5 月 29 日 上午 5:32 
Thank you for the input everyone. I have ordered the Acer XF270HUA bmiidprzx. I made sure to purchase it from a site with 14 days free return-policy. So if i encounter any issues with the IPS Panel i can send it back, and will probably try out the Dell S2716DG.
最後修改者:cato; 2019 年 5 月 29 日 上午 5:33
Autumn_ 2019 年 5 月 29 日 上午 5:57 
引用自 Cato
Thank you for the input everyone. I have ordered the Acer XF270HUA bmiidprzx. I made sure to purchase it from a site with 14 days free return-policy. So if i encounter any issues with the IPS Panel i can send it back, and will probably try out the Dell S2716DG.
Hope it goes well then.
Do tell us what you think of it.
cato 2019 年 6 月 5 日 上午 9:31 
引用自 Autumn
引用自 Cato
Thank you for the input everyone. I have ordered the Acer XF270HUA bmiidprzx. I made sure to purchase it from a site with 14 days free return-policy. So if i encounter any issues with the IPS Panel i can send it back, and will probably try out the Dell S2716DG.
Hope it goes well then.
Do tell us what you think of it.

Hey, sorry for the late response. Didn't recieve the monitor until yesterday, due to holidays + weekend. Anyway, i tried out a couple of games in 1440p to see the difference, FarCry New Dawn was one of them. With 1440p and visual settings on max i definitely didn't get disappointed. Overall quality of the images look great compared to the 1080p i used to have, and contrasts/colors look fine aswell.
Also, the game "only" ran at 80-100 fps, so i didn't get the full 144hz experience. However, i could still clearly feel a difference from 60hz. So i can imagine that less heavy games (CS:GO etc.) will feel really nice with the 144hz. Need to read more about the combination of FreeSync, V-Sync and FPS caps, to find out how to fully optimize the gameplay.
Regarding response time, it feels fine, but i have no idea what it's actually at. I tried some of those UFO tests, but couldn't really get an accurate result out of it. If anyone knows a good way to test reponse time (G2G or MPRT), please let me know.
Of course, the monitor has some IPS Glow, but i don't think it'll be a problem. I tried to watch some videoes with dark colors in a darkened room, but didn't seem to bother me. I could only see the glow properly if the room was completely dark and i fullscreened a black picture. I don't think it's worse than what you can expect from an IPS monitor, but my experience with IPS Glow is very limited. Could take a picture, but i doubt it'd be helpful, as it looks a lot worse than it actually is.
Autumn_ 2019 年 6 月 5 日 下午 12:29 
引用自 Cato
引用自 Autumn
Hope it goes well then.
Do tell us what you think of it.

Hey, sorry for the late response. Didn't recieve the monitor until yesterday, due to holidays + weekend. Anyway, i tried out a couple of games in 1440p to see the difference, FarCry New Dawn was one of them. With 1440p and visual settings on max i definitely didn't get disappointed. Overall quality of the images look great compared to the 1080p i used to have, and contrasts/colors look fine aswell.
Also, the game "only" ran at 80-100 fps, so i didn't get the full 144hz experience. However, i could still clearly feel a difference from 60hz. So i can imagine that less heavy games (CS:GO etc.) will feel really nice with the 144hz. Need to read more about the combination of FreeSync, V-Sync and FPS caps, to find out how to fully optimize the gameplay.
Regarding response time, it feels fine, but i have no idea what it's actually at. I tried some of those UFO tests, but couldn't really get an accurate result out of it. If anyone knows a good way to test reponse time (G2G or MPRT), please let me know.
Of course, the monitor has some IPS Glow, but i don't think it'll be a problem. I tried to watch some videoes with dark colors in a darkened room, but didn't seem to bother me. I could only see the glow properly if the room was completely dark and i fullscreened a black picture. I don't think it's worse than what you can expect from an IPS monitor, but my experience with IPS Glow is very limited. Could take a picture, but i doubt it'd be helpful, as it looks a lot worse than it actually is.
Nice to hear you've got it.

And, the difference is shocking when you put 1440p next to 1080p, it looks so brilliant.
But, you should play a game to see what 144hz is like, it's SO nice.

For Freesync, honestly just leave FPS uncapped, no Vsync.
If you're really that worried, cap FPS at 143fps (and it will sometimes add an extra frame, that's why you do 143.) That will result in the best experience.

As the the UFO test, if you sit there looking at it for a while, and the blur behind the UFOs isn't there, or has very minimal ghosting / trail, then it's fine.

And, if it (IPS glow), doesn't bother you it's fine.
Yurdun 2019 年 6 月 5 日 下午 1:33 
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