Best soundcard?

[rezo]

I have a pair of Audio Technica ATH M50Xs, my old ASUS Xonar DX broke so I'd like to buy a new soundcard. The onboard sound of my Gigabyte Z390 board is ♥♥♥♥♥ compared to the soundcard so id like to buy another one.

What is better between the;

Creative Sound Blaster Audigy FX

and

Asus Xonar DGX

which one is a better choice? Or are there better options out there (that are reasonably priced)

[tacoshy]

dB have nothing to do with soundquality. Is a singer good when he can hit the ntoes or if he just can scream loud?

comparing dB on DAC is senseless as it has nothign really nothign to do with soundquality. besides those soundcards only achieve such high dB not because of the DAC but because they have a build in AmpUP

besides, if you think you cant get good sound below 102 dB then you might should reconsider your facts. 100 dB is already louder then a chainsaw where you already have to wear ear protectors... if you need such loud sound to get good sound that you really enver heared good sound befor...

[EliteGamer]

Escrito originalmente por tacoshy:

dB have nothing to do with soundquality. Is a singer good when he can hit the ntoes or if he just can scream loud?

comparing dB on DAC is senseless as it has nothign really nothign to do with soundquality. besides those soundcards only achieve such high dB not because of the DAC but because they have a build in AmpUP

OKAY LOL, so a 50dB sound card sounds as good as a 130 dB sound card? Right LOL

[tacoshy]

Escrito originalmente por EliteGamer:

Escrito originalmente por tacoshy:

dB have nothing to do with soundquality. Is a singer good when he can hit the ntoes or if he just can scream loud?

comparing dB on DAC is senseless as it has nothign really nothign to do with soundquality. besides those soundcards only achieve such high dB not because of the DAC but because they have a build in AmpUP

OKAY LOL, so a 50dB sound card sounds as good as a 130 dB sound card? Right LOL

can yes - because again the loudness of a soudn has nothing to do how clear a sound is. 130 dB is the soudn of a jet engine.

55dB is the sound of normal talking...

[EliteGamer]

Escrito originalmente por tacoshy:

Escrito originalmente por EliteGamer:

OKAY LOL, so a 50dB sound card sounds as good as a 130 dB sound card? Right LOL

can yes - because again the loudness of a soudn has nothing to do how clear a sound is.

But sound cards like the AE-5 and G6 aren’t just loud.... they are very clear and sound great. The AE-5 is using a Sabre DAC FFS!!! It really doesn’t get much higher end than that!

Edit: Hey Taco “Monks” right hand little boy, take a look at these websites that say otherwise...... You NARC:

https://www.windowscentral.com/creative-sound-blasterx-g6-review

Here’s the video of G6 vs X7 ..... someone who’s tested both and says the G6 is better..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twsjn9f3xmg

The G6 is superior to any other Sound Blaster and superior to Magni/mobi old junk and any of those £600 motherboards in sound quality. Remember, the G6 is only £120..... yeah.... value for money. Onboard audio suffers with severe noise from inside the case which effects sound quality.

Kaihekoe - I have you on block for a reason...... I remember when you posted a BS website a while back made by some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ rival fanboy who did a test saying 1440p was better than 4K LOL (I was using 4K at the time) Sorry, but your jealous attempts have no ground of proof to it. It’s dodgy AF!!! Anyways, DNR is way more important than SNR in sound quality. Nobody can tell a difference when SNR is above 115dB.


EVGA NU Audio DNR: 123dB
Sound Blaster G6 DNR: 130dB.
It was a pleasure educating you once again ;)

The EVGA NU sound card turned out a total failure with reports of cooking itself after 30 minutes of use LOL

Plus the G6 is 32-bit 384kHz with X-AMP. X-AMP is the new standard in how audio is delivered.

Monk - X-AMP is a game changer in how audio quality is delivered. I suggest you stop wasting money on pointless overprice rubbish and buy something that is “worth it” Damn, the manufacturers love people like you.... Here comes Mr gullible with cash on the hip....... take that fools money LOL

[tacoshy]

Escrito originalmente por EliteGamer:

Escrito originalmente por tacoshy:

can yes - because again the loudness of a soudn has nothing to do how clear a sound is.

But sound cards like the AE-5 and G6 aren’t just loud.... they are very clear and sound great. The AE-5 is using a Sabre DAC FFS!!! It really doesn’t get much higher end than that!

and? my motherboard currently has a ESS Sabre DAC aswell, my previos motherbaord had a build in ZxR? Oh and a ♥♥♥♥♥ uses an ESS Sabre DAC aswell...

but again loudness have nothign to do with soudn quality. a good DAC will sound good at any noice level. Not only at 130 dB where you suffer irreversable damage of the ears.

[rezo]

Interesting... I havent been on for a few days and I have 30 notifications on this post.

EliteGamer I think their point is the fact that the loudness of a soundcard doesnt reflect how good it is. IF your soundcard is better than whatever it ISNT because of the 130dB DNR rating... Its probably other factors.

Many audiophiles say that its got nothing to do with loudness but the ability to reproduce all frequencies at ANY volume, either very quietly or loudly. Sure yours goes louder than the others but that doesnt mean its better, if I wanted loud then I can plug my headphones into my Yamaha AS701 and turn the amp up lmao.


The 32 bit/384kHz 1-600 ohm specs are more important than the 130dB DNR rating.
as you'd know the 32 bit rating is way more than i'd ever need (using spotify and playing csgo is my main usage) and neither have 32 bit audio, heck even CD quality or flac isnt 32 bit, thats only 16 bit.

The only reason why i'd go for that (more than I need) dac is if im a purist and want to reassure the lowest noise possible and the unnecessary extra cost doesnt justify that. Not that I cant afford it, its more of theres literally no point in me getting a £130 DAC for a pair of headphones which cost around the same price. - Similarly how theres no point in me getting a i9 9900k and 2080 ti when I only play csgo and apex at 1440p lmao

[EliteGamer]

Escrito originalmente por rezo:

Interesting... I havent been on for a few days and I have 30 notifications on this post.

EliteGamer I think their point is the fact that the loudness of a soundcard doesnt reflect how good it is. IF your soundcard is better than whatever it ISNT because of the 130dB DNR rating... Its probably other factors.

Many audiophiles say that its got nothing to do with loudness but the ability to reproduce all frequencies at ANY volume, either very quietly or loudly. Sure yours goes louder than the others but that doesnt mean its better, if I wanted loud then I can plug my headphones into my Yamaha AS701 and turn the amp up lmao.


The 32 bit/384kHz 1-600 ohm specs are more important than the 130dB DNR rating.
as you'd know the 32 bit rating is way more than i'd ever need (using spotify and playing csgo is my main usage) and neither have 32 bit audio, heck even CD quality or flac isnt 32 bit, thats only 16 bit.

The only reason why i'd go for that (more than I need) dac is if im a purist and want to reassure the lowest noise possible and the unnecessary extra cost doesnt justify that. Not that I cant afford it, its more of theres literally no point in me getting a £130 DAC for a pair of headphones which cost around the same price. - Similarly how theres no point in me getting a i9 9900k and 2080 ti when I only play csgo and apex at 1440p lmao

The 32 bit/384kHz is more important than the 130dB DNR rating? Really? LOL - Find me some content that is 32 bit/384kHz please! PMSL

That 130dB DNR rating is very important in sound quality. Go watch the video of the G6 vs X7 where the guy says the 130dB DNR is what makes the G6 sound better than the X7. The X7 is much better than schiit audio modi/magni. The X7 has a 127dB DAC, the X7 is basically a ZXR in USB form, but a little bit better. The reviewer says the G6 sounds much better than the X7. I think people should listen to people who actually have heard the G6 and not haters. Thank you!

The AE-5 and G6 sound good at all volumes, why is everyone saying this? I doubt the human ears could hear better sound quality than the G6 at under £1000. Listening to music, the detail and the position of where it's coming from is perfect with the AE-5 and G6. Fact, I've just been testing both with my speakers and DT 1990 Pro headphones today and both sound perfect.
It's hard to pick a winner between the AE-5 and G6. Both sound cards have X-AMP, which makes audio super clear and detailed.

[rezo]

Escrito originalmente por EliteGamer:

Escrito originalmente por rezo:

Interesting... I havent been on for a few days and I have 30 notifications on this post.

EliteGamer I think their point is the fact that the loudness of a soundcard doesnt reflect how good it is. IF your soundcard is better than whatever it ISNT because of the 130dB DNR rating... Its probably other factors.

Many audiophiles say that its got nothing to do with loudness but the ability to reproduce all frequencies at ANY volume, either very quietly or loudly. Sure yours goes louder than the others but that doesnt mean its better, if I wanted loud then I can plug my headphones into my Yamaha AS701 and turn the amp up lmao.


The 32 bit/384kHz 1-600 ohm specs are more important than the 130dB DNR rating.
as you'd know the 32 bit rating is way more than i'd ever need (using spotify and playing csgo is my main usage) and neither have 32 bit audio, heck even CD quality or flac isnt 32 bit, thats only 16 bit.

The only reason why i'd go for that (more than I need) dac is if im a purist and want to reassure the lowest noise possible and the unnecessary extra cost doesnt justify that. Not that I cant afford it, its more of theres literally no point in me getting a £130 DAC for a pair of headphones which cost around the same price. - Similarly how theres no point in me getting a i9 9900k and 2080 ti when I only play csgo and apex at 1440p lmao

The 32 bit/384kHz is more important than the 130dB DNR rating? Really? LOL - Find me some content that is 32 bit/384kHz please! PMSL

That 130dB DNR rating is very important in sound quality. Go watch the video of the G6 vs X7 where the guy says the 130dB DNR is what makes the G6 sound better than the X7. The X7 is much better than schiit audio modi/magni. The X7 has a 127dB DAC, the X7 is basically a ZXR in USB form, but a little bit better. The reviewer says the G6 sounds much better than the X7. I think people should listen to people who actually have heard the G6 and not haters. Thank you!

The AE-5 and G6 sound good at all volumes, why is everyone saying this? I doubt the human ears could hear better sound quality than the G6 at under £1000. Listening to music, the detail and the position of where it's coming from is perfect with the AE-5 and G6. Fact, I've just been testing both with my speakers and DT 1990 Pro headphones today and both sound perfect.
It's hard to pick a winner between the AE-5 and G6. Both sound cards have X-AMP, which makes audio super clear and detailed.

No one is trying to disprove your point of that DAC being very good... Im sure it is.

What we're trying to say is that you cant just compare DACs PURELY on the dB rating.
Its like saying a 1500hp car is faster than the 1000hp car when you havent taken in account weight, aerodynamics, 4wd, air intake, fuel intake etc etc

[Lord Flashheart]

I used to have the ASUS xonar dgx. it is OK. Then won some cash & got an ASUS strix soar. So very much better. No driver issues I am aware of and very good quality.

[Revelene]

A real audiophile understands that sound is ultimately subjective.

Personally, I love listening to old vinyl records with tube amplifiers... I also like to push a lot of amplification to dedicated subwoofers and shake windows. Everyone has their own preferences.

You can have the most clean and clear audio possible, but in the end of the day, is it enjoyable to you? If it isn't, then what is the point?

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Everyone will feel different when it comes to audio. Overall, all this back and forth regarding dB is pathetic non-sense, as that's not a sole sign of quality in a DAC. Best bet would be to compared them regarding features and software.

A good plus with usb dac is you don't need any junk software to rely on and it'll be plug and play regardless of OS

[Revelene]

Escrito originalmente por Bad 💀 Motha:

Everyone will feel different when it comes to audio. Overall, all this back and forth regarding dB is pathetic non-sense, as that's not a sole sign of quality in a DAC. Best bet would be to compared them regarding features and software.

A good plus with usb dac is you don't need any junk software to rely on and it'll be plug and play regardless of OS

Agreed.

SNR is hardly the key stat to judge audio.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal-to-noise_ratio

And the rating can easily be misleading, as it can be rated between any signal level and noise.

[EliteGamer]

Why is everybody going on about SNR??? Every audiophile should know that once SNR is above 110dB, human ears can’t tell the difference.

It’s DNR (Dynamic Range) that’s more important to have.

I agree that a good sound card doesn’t need a lot of volume. My Sound blaster AE-5 and G6 only need to be at volume 4. They’re pure awesome.

Somebody already has tested the AE-5 against EVGA NU Audio and it looks like EVGA doesn’t make great sound cards like Creative do. ;)

https://forums.evga.com/m/tm.aspx?m=2938469&p=1

Who ever paid £235 for that EVGA card ...... You fell for the EVGA branding PMSL.

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[Revelene]

Escrito originalmente por EliteGamer:

Why is everybody going on about SNR??? Every audiophile should know that once SNR is above 110dB, human ears can’t tell the difference.

It’s DNR (Dynamic Range) that’s more important to have.

I agree that a good sound card doesn’t need a lot of volume. My Sound blaster AE-5 and G6 only need to be at volume 4. They’re pure awesome.

Somebody already has tested the AE-5 against EVGA NU Audio and it looks like EVGA doesn’t make great sound cards like Creative do. ;)

https://forums.evga.com/m/tm.aspx?m=2938469&p=1

Who ever paid £235 for that EVGA card ...... You fell for the EVGA branding PMSL.

An audiophile should also know that SNR is part of DNR.