1660 Ti or RTX 2060

[Birdman Jr]

I'm looking to upgrade my sons GPU currently. I was just about to pull the trigger on a GTX 1660 Ti 6GB GDDR6 for $269 - $279. But than I just read a article on Guru3D that rumor has it nvidia may be refreshing the RTX lineup and have the RTX 2060 at $249. So now I'm debating about waiting to see if it really happens or not. Just curious if anyone can provide more insight into whether or not it's a high difference in performance or why one better than the other so much. Thanks!

[r.linder]

Ultimately depends on pricing, because the 2060 is barely 15~20% better at best. Wait for deals, and don't forget about AMD side as there are occasionally better deals for Vega 56, which is around the same performance but costs less in some cases, similar to the war between the 1060 and RX 580.

[Birdman Jr]

Yeah, that's why I'm kinda holding off for a little. With the rumor flying around about the price drop in mid July it might pay off to wait it out. Besides 15 - 20% better performance, any other reason why maybe the 2060 would be worth the extra $$$

[r.linder]

引用自 Birdman Jr：

Yeah, that's why I'm kinda holding off for a little. With the rumor flying around about the price drop in mid July it might pay off to wait it out. Besides 15 - 20% better performance, any other reason why maybe the 2060 would be worth the extra $$$

There is no other reason. It's just gimmicks and more performance, and with how awful most of NVIDIA's drivers have been this year, Vega 56 is just better.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

引用自 Birdman Jr：

Yeah, that's why I'm kinda holding off for a little. With the rumor flying around about the price drop in mid July it might pay off to wait it out. Besides 15 - 20% better performance, any other reason why maybe the 2060 would be worth the extra $$$

Ray tracing. But IMHO this is basically early stages thats not even worth getting into, as it hits performance really bad, and only way to have somewhat decent time with ray tracing is going for the high-end current model 2080 ti.

If you think the value not worth it, then it might be the right call to make to go with the better deal, save a bit of money, if it does go on sale, for same price, or doesn't cost to much more, then might as well get the better card at that point.

IMO currently on ray tracing, I find it a bit of a gimmick in modem games, as you wouldn't really spend your whole time looking for reflections, or trying to get better shadow casting effects.

[Birdman Jr]

Ok, yeah I read about the Ray Tracing back then. That's pretty much where I'm at though. I'm going follow it a little more and see if they really do price drop it then I might as well get it since it'll be what the 1660 Ti cost originally. However, if the 1660 Ti price drops decently I might just go with that and use the extra $$$ elsewhere on the system.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

引用自 Birdman Jr：

Ok, yeah I read about the Ray Tracing back then. That's pretty much where I'm at though. I'm going follow it a little more and see if they really do price drop it then I might as well get it since it'll be what the 1660 Ti cost originally. However, if the 1660 Ti price drops decently I might just go with that and use the extra $$$ elsewhere on the system.

Sounds like a solid plan, and can't go wrong.

[Cutlass_Stallion]

Yeah, I'm in a similar boat as you. I'm considering upgrading to a RTX 2070, but with NVIDIA's "SUPER" line and AMD's Navi GPUs supposedly getting announced at some point soon, it's a good idea to hold for now. I think we should have all the info we need to make a decision by August.

[TheRandomGuy]

I'd consider waiting at this point. NVIDIA just announced a SUPER lineup, and AMD's Navi GPUs will supposedly be here by the end of the year.

Regarding the 2060, it's supposedly on-par to a 1070Ti in benchmarks and does perform somewhat better than the 1660Ti, but not by all that much.

The main feature of the RTX lineup is Ray-Tracing. Ray-Tracing is only available in a select number of games but admittedly that list seems to be growing with new releases including it. The other thing is that even with an RTX Card, Ray-Tracing does bring down your FPS by quite a bit, so if you're expecting a perfect 60 FPS on a 2060 with Ray-Tracing ON, then you might want to temper your expectations. Of Course you don't NEED Ray-Tracing and games will still look quite good without it, it's just extra-eye candy.

The 1660 is just a newer entry-level GPU, while the 1660Ti is a more powerful version of the card, just without Ray-Tracing Cores.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

引用自 PuertoRicanStripeHeadedTanager：

引用自 Dr.Shadowds 🐉：

Ray tracing. But IMHO this is basically early stages thats not even worth getting into, as it hits performance really bad, and only way to have somewhat decent time with ray tracing is going for the high-end current model 2080 ti.

If you think the value not worth it, then it might be the right call to make to go with the better deal, save a bit of money, if it does go on sale, for same price, or doesn't cost to much more, then might as well get the better card at that point.

I have no performance issues with ray tracing on my 2080.

Do realize that if you enable RT your FPS tanks right? If you're thinking I meant you have performance issues, that's not what I said.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

引用自 PuertoRicanStripeHeadedTanager：

引用自 Dr.Shadowds 🐉：

Do realize that if you enable RT your FPS tanks right? If you're thinking I meant you have performance issues, that's not what I said.

I have no fps issues with ray tracing on my 2080.

So you're saying if you play a modem game right now that supports RT, and was getting FPS above 100+ but as soon you turn on RT your FPS won't go down, or change at all? I suggest think about what I said.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urRSFTujsJY

[r.linder]

引用自 PuertoRicanStripeHeadedTanager：

引用自 Escorve：

There is no other reason. It's just gimmicks and more performance, and with how awful most of NVIDIA's drivers have been this year, Vega 56 is just better.

There are no gimmicks in the 2060.

Raytracing is a gimmick.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

引用自 PuertoRicanStripeHeadedTanager：

引用自 Dr.Shadowds 🐉：

So you're saying if you play a modem game right now that supports RT, and was getting FPS above 100+ but as soon you turn on RT your FPS won't go down, or change at all? I suggest think about what I said.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urRSFTujsJY

I said I had no issues, I suggest learn comprehension.

I ask you before this "Do realize that if you enable RT your FPS tanks right?", and you said no performance issues. <--- vague answer which have to assume answer was "No" to the question, which I have to give you example, and ask you again, to ensure you even understood what I asked of you, as I already stated what was said, as clearly was talking of FPS in games with RT.
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/1646544348825878590/?tscn=1561270405#c1646544348826437579

Now I'm not going to carry on with this, and you're free to watch the video, and understand exactly what I ask in the 1st place.

[Missing Spartan]

引用自 Dr.Shadowds 🐉：

引用自 PuertoRicanStripeHeadedTanager：

I said I had no issues, I suggest learn comprehension.

I ask you before this "Do realize that if you enable RT your FPS tanks right?", and you said no performance issues. <--- vague answer which have to assume answer was "No" to the question, which I have to give you example, and ask you again, to ensure you even understood what I asked of you, as I already stated what was said, as clearly was talking of FPS in games with RT.
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/1646544348825878590/?tscn=1561270405#c1646544348826437579

Now I'm not going to carry on with this, and you're free to watch the video, and understand exactly what I ask in the 1st place.

Dude don't argue with it, it's just a troll that doesn't really know anything about computers.

[r.linder]

引用自 PuertoRicanStripeHeadedTanager：

引用自 Escorve：

Raytracing is a gimmick.

It's not.

No, it is. All it actually does is add minor enhancements to effects at the cost of performance, which requires DLSS to mitigate. DLSS actually lowers visual quality of textures in order to reduce the performance hit of DXR.

The entire raytracing setup is nothing more than a gimmick that NVIDIA wants to shove down its customer's throats and make them pay substantially more for their higher end cards. Nobody asked for it, nobody wanted it. We just wanted better performing GPUs for 4K gaming, not extra baggage that ruins performance and drives up the cost.

Don't even claim that you have no performance hits with your 2080, because that's complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Even with a 2080 Ti at 4K, the difference is night and day when using DXR and DLSS in supported games like BF4, which for multiplayer games where the maximum FPS leads to a better experience, it's not worth the loss. Not to mention that developers are able to "emulate" the effects of raytracing through software alone, defeating the whole purpose of the extra hardware components necessary to handle real time raytracing.
I feel like you're just trying to stop yourself from hitting more buyer's remorse.

[Birdman Jr]

Lol, gotta love the steam forums. Brings out the NASA scientist in all of us.