Help me choose gpu,mb,ps for AMD Ryzen 5 2600

[Hrenovina]

CPU:
AMD Ryzen 5 2600

Choose pls from the given options:

Motherboard:
I think about these:
Asus Prime B450M-A AM4
Gigabyte B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

But also i can buy:
Asus Prime B450M-A AM4
Asrock B450 Steel Legend AM4
ASUS PRIME A320M-K AM4
ASUS PRIME A320M-R-SI AM4
Asus Prime B450M-A AM4
ASUS PRIME B450M-K AM4

Video Card:
Gigabyte Nvidia GeForce GTX 1650 OC 4GB GDDR5
Gigabyte Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 OC 6GB GDDR5(don't want TI because it's too much for this cpu)

Power Supply:
500W FSP Q-DION QD500
600W Chieftec iARENA GPA-600S
500W AEROCOOL VX PLUS 500

[Hrenovina]

Originally posted by Escorve:

Originally posted by Pipiskalka ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.com:

ah, yes. 187$

So same price, but:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxOaJAGhrxY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zLbetB7Tzo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHALv7fpb54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3KKGZQRUiM

Almost always, there's higher FPS with the 570 for the same price. It's just that the one downside is that GCN was always power hungry; the 570 uses just as much power as the twice as powerful RX 5700 and GTX 1080. (In actual power draw on average while gaming; TDP rating doesn't mean ♥♥♥♥ to actual power draw. AMD bases TDP off of temperatures, while NVIDIA more or less bases it off of average draw.)

The 1650 only recommends a 300W PSU in most cases, whereas you want a 500W PSU minimum for the 570. That's not to say that you should get a cheaper PSU, because you should NEVER cheap out on a PSU as it's responsible for supplying electricity safely, and a lot of dirt cheap units can fail and cause damage to components.

Don't have 570. but Sapphire Radeon RX580 Pulse 8GB OC - 220.69 USD.
This video card as all AMD's takes too much energy and will be too noisy and hot. And its forces me not to buy it.

[Omega]

That is incorrect. Modern AMD and Nvidia are about equal in power usage when comparing cards with similar performance. Noise depends on the model of the card and has nothing to do with Nvidia/AMD.

The reason the 570 uses more power then the 1650 is because it's and older and slightly faster card.

The extra power it uses is so little you will see no difference in the electric bill at the end of the month but you are paying $30 less for the card. These cards will pull less then 5-10w when idle on the desktop/web browsing, only once gaming will they jump up in power usage.

[Hrenovina]

Originally posted by Omega:

That is incorrect. Modern AMD and Nvidia are about equal in power usage when comparing cards with similar performance. Noise depends on the model of the card and has nothing to do with Nvidia/AMD.

The reason the 570 uses more power then the 1650 is because it's and older and slightly faster card.

The extra power it uses is so little you will see no difference in the electric bill at the end of the month but you are paying $30 less for the card. These cards will pull less then 5-10w when idle on the desktop/web browsing, only once gaming will they jump up in power usage.

There is only 30$ difference in price between:
Gigabyte Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 OC 6GB GDDR5 and RX580 Pulse 8GB OC.
And i'll get 1660 i think. Thanks

[r.linder]

Originally posted by Pipiskalka ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.com:

Originally posted by Escorve:

So same price, but:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxOaJAGhrxY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zLbetB7Tzo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHALv7fpb54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3KKGZQRUiM

Almost always, there's higher FPS with the 570 for the same price. It's just that the one downside is that GCN was always power hungry; the 570 uses just as much power as the twice as powerful RX 5700 and GTX 1080. (In actual power draw on average while gaming; TDP rating doesn't mean ♥♥♥♥ to actual power draw. AMD bases TDP off of temperatures, while NVIDIA more or less bases it off of average draw.)

The 1650 only recommends a 300W PSU in most cases, whereas you want a 500W PSU minimum for the 570. That's not to say that you should get a cheaper PSU, because you should NEVER cheap out on a PSU as it's responsible for supplying electricity safely, and a lot of dirt cheap units can fail and cause damage to components.

Don't have 570. but Sapphire Radeon RX580 Pulse 8GB OC - 220.69 USD.
This video card as all AMD's takes too much energy and will be too noisy and hot. And its forces me not to buy it.

AMD doesn't run more hot than NVIDIA or Intel anymore, it's really all the same these days.
Navi cards like the 5700 and 5700 XT use as much power as their opponents, essentially.

Originally posted by Omega:

That is incorrect. Modern AMD and Nvidia are about equal in power usage when comparing cards with similar performance. Noise depends on the model of the card and has nothing to do with Nvidia/AMD.

The reason the 570 uses more power then the 1650 is because it's and older and slightly faster card.

The extra power it uses is so little you will see no difference in the electric bill at the end of the month but you are paying $30 less for the card. These cards will pull less then 5-10w when idle on the desktop/web browsing, only once gaming will they jump up in power usage.

I've seen plenty of benchmarks with average power draw during gaming, and the general idea is that the 570 does actually use as much power as a 5700 or 1080. The 580 uses more power than the 5700 XT and 2080 as well.

[r.linder]

Originally posted by Pipiskalka ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.com:

Originally posted by Omega:

That is incorrect. Modern AMD and Nvidia are about equal in power usage when comparing cards with similar performance. Noise depends on the model of the card and has nothing to do with Nvidia/AMD.

The reason the 570 uses more power then the 1650 is because it's and older and slightly faster card.

The extra power it uses is so little you will see no difference in the electric bill at the end of the month but you are paying $30 less for the card. These cards will pull less then 5-10w when idle on the desktop/web browsing, only once gaming will they jump up in power usage.

There is only 30$ difference in price between:
Gigabyte Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 OC 6GB GDDR5 and RX580 Pulse 8GB OC.
And i'll get 1660 i think. Thanks

Bear in mind that cheaper Gigabyte models often have issues with the cooler, as it's low quality. Probably a Windforce cooler model. MSI has a similar issue with Ventus and Armor coolers, as does ASUS with their Phoenix and TUF.
You will have to tweak the fan curve.

[Omega]

Originally posted by Pipiskalka ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.com:

Originally posted by Omega:

That is incorrect. Modern AMD and Nvidia are about equal in power usage when comparing cards with similar performance. Noise depends on the model of the card and has nothing to do with Nvidia/AMD.

The reason the 570 uses more power then the 1650 is because it's and older and slightly faster card.

The extra power it uses is so little you will see no difference in the electric bill at the end of the month but you are paying $30 less for the card. These cards will pull less then 5-10w when idle on the desktop/web browsing, only once gaming will they jump up in power usage.

There is only 30$ difference in price between:
Gigabyte Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 OC 6GB GDDR5 and 580 and RX580 Pulse 8GB OC.
And i'll get 1660 i think. Thanks

The 1660 is the better card if you get it.

Originally posted by Escorve:

I've checked average power draw benchmarks with modern cards, the 570 literally does use as much as the 5700 and 1080 do while all 3 are actively gaming.
The 580 uses more power than the 5700 XT and 2080, and definitely requires a quality 500W unit as I had an older SeaSonic unit that would often shut off from the load.

Like I said, these are older cards. You are comparing 2016 tech to 2019 tech. RDNA is a huge jump over the old GCN crap.

[r.linder]

Originally posted by Omega:

Originally posted by Pipiskalka ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.com:

There is only 30$ difference in price between:
Gigabyte Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 OC 6GB GDDR5 and 580 and RX580 Pulse 8GB OC.
And i'll get 1660 i think. Thanks

The 1660 is the better card if you get it.

Originally posted by Escorve:

I've checked average power draw benchmarks with modern cards, the 570 literally does use as much as the 5700 and 1080 do while all 3 are actively gaming.
The 580 uses more power than the 5700 XT and 2080, and definitely requires a quality 500W unit as I had an older SeaSonic unit that would often shut off from the load.

Like I said, these are older cards. You are comparing 2016 tech to 2019 tech. RDNA is a huge jump over the old GCN crap.

Even so, people still consider the 570 because of the value aspect, so it's still very much relevant despite GCN's age.
At least until AMD releases the RX 5500, which is probably just going to be the RDNA version of the 570.

[Omega]

Originally posted by Escorve:

Originally posted by Omega:

The 1660 is the better card if you get it.



Like I said, these are older cards. You are comparing 2016 tech to 2019 tech. RDNA is a huge jump over the old GCN crap.

Even so, people still consider the 570 because of the value aspect, so it's still very much relevant despite GCN's age.
At least until AMD releases the RX 5500, which is probably just going to be the RDNA version of the 570.

I agree. The 570 is great value and basically makes the current Nvidia 1050 (ti) and 1650 obsolite. But the moment someone recommends AMD power usage suddenly becomes important.. While those same people will be pushing stuff like the 300w pulling 9900KS CPUs.

[Zireth]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/R62hV6 you didn't list a budget also you didn't list that you needed any ram which I assume you have DDR4 sticks which is required to even post.

[r.linder]

Originally posted by Omega:

Originally posted by Escorve:

Even so, people still consider the 570 because of the value aspect, so it's still very much relevant despite GCN's age.
At least until AMD releases the RX 5500, which is probably just going to be the RDNA version of the 570.

I agree. The 570 is great value and basically makes the current Nvidia 1050 (ti) and 1650 obsolite. But the moment someone recommends AMD power usage suddenly becomes important.. While those same people will be pushing stuff like the 300w pulling 9900KS CPUs.

Yikes. Just the 9900KS in general... Yikes.

[Zireth]

Originally posted by Escorve:

Originally posted by Omega:

I agree. The 570 is great value and basically makes the current Nvidia 1050 (ti) and 1650 obsolite. But the moment someone recommends AMD power usage suddenly becomes important.. While those same people will be pushing stuff like the 300w pulling 9900KS CPUs.

Yikes. Just the 9900KS in general... Yikes.

Its just a overpriced 9900k that had its all core boost overclocked. It's for lazy people too afraid to tweak their CPU.

[r.linder]

Originally posted by Rachel, The Promised End:

Originally posted by Escorve:

Yikes. Just the 9900KS in general... Yikes.

Its just a overpriced 9900k that had its all core boost overclocked. It's for lazy people too afraid to tweak their CPU.

The only possible benefit is that it's better binned so that it can be achieved with a lower voltage than most 9900Ks end up with. (And slightly lower temperatures as a result) In other words, "pay us more and you'll get the chip you actually wanted!"

[Omega]

Originally posted by Escorve:

Originally posted by Rachel, The Promised End:

Its just a overpriced 9900k that had its all core boost overclocked. It's for lazy people too afraid to tweak their CPU.

The only possible benefit is that it's better binned so that it can be achieved with a lower voltage than most 9900Ks end up with. (And slightly lower temperatures as a result) In other words, "pay us more and you'll get the chip you actually wanted!"

Intel also has no trust in the 9900KS and only supply it with a 1 year warranty compared to the normal 3 years. It's indeed just a heavily OCed binned 9900k and it will not last too long.

[r.linder]

Originally posted by Omega:

Originally posted by Escorve:

The only possible benefit is that it's better binned so that it can be achieved with a lower voltage than most 9900Ks end up with. (And slightly lower temperatures as a result) In other words, "pay us more and you'll get the chip you actually wanted!"

Intel also has no trust in the 9900KS and only supply it with a 1 year warranty compared to the normal 3 years. It's indeed just a heavily OCed binned 9900k and it will not last too long.

RIP. If the 3950X was to be the same price, then there'd be no reason to get the 9900KS

[Zireth]

Originally posted by Escorve:

Originally posted by Omega:

Intel also has no trust in the 9900KS and only supply it with a 1 year warranty compared to the normal 3 years. It's indeed just a heavily OCed binned 9900k and it will not last too long.

RIP. If the 3950X was to be the same price, then there'd be no reason to get the 9900KS

I wouldn't even get a 9900k in the first place, I dislike how intel charges more for K cpus and still needs a cooler. I could build a part for part same system (besides motherboard and CPU) with a 3800x and be 100$ cheaper.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zrqMZf
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QkHTBZ