RTX 2080 Ti Vs TITAN RTX

[Spritelens219]

Which is best for gaming?
Which is best for office work?
Why or Why not?

[Mad Scientist]

Publicado originalmente por Monk:

As much as I dislike apple, you didn't buy a 200 buck smart phone that outperforms their latest flagship so stop talking bs

I find out where and how to get the best deals, it's how I got better prices than my workers discount. It not being to your belief doesn't magically dismiss it. Their flagships are usually behind, what do they have - high resolution? Locked down OS? Multi hundred dollar accessories? Their decent benchmarks aside; the performance is 0 if they can't run what you need them to run.

That's like saying my PC (or a lot of PCs) wont outdo an Apple system for visual effects, graphics and all of the work I do with it; an apple equivalent would be around 7-9k more expensive and wouldn't be able to run almost any of these programs. I have a smaller version of a media control panel ($16,000 for apple systems) for $150, same exact performance, more program options and support. It comes down to what idiots can you fleece? Thinking outside the box is how you get superior performance especially depending on your task; raw brand name is useless as is the price tag if something does the job better.

Try playing RUST on 8GB ram (apparently a lot of people still run with 8GB, not me), off of a $75-$150 HDD. Now play it on an SSD $25 less storage but it's an SSD; which performs better? The SSD. Brand name is at large meaningless, as is price vs performance. The PC version would be Alienware; huge price increase over a DIY or other prebuilt configuration sites.

DIY; Insanely cheap if you know when and where to go somewhere or the optimal times to buy something (Standard price drop times) by being in the industry especially when you're in it and know release dates. It's not difficult to pay significantly less for same, similar or superior performance.

Think outside the box, pay differently.

[iceman1980]

Publicado originalmente por Monk:

Well, I didn't bring up apples rnd, but they do a crazy amount, most of the spray on waterproofing is actually highly toxic.... Not something you want on a consumer product really.
Also, rubber gaskets don't look as cool as clean phones I guess?

N-hexane is also used for those dumb stickers it's also highly toxic
The coating isn't toxic.

https://www.theengineer.co.uk/superhydrophobic-coating-is-non-toxic-and-economical-to-produce/

[Monk]

So, no evidence such as a make or model even, fact is, the latest iPhone is very fast and technically good, you cannot match the performance on a budget handset like you claimed.

Same for pc hardware, yes you can get deals and discounts, but if you are fixed to a set price, there isn't that much variation, likewise, you cannot make a 2080 faster than a 2080ti, somethings you have to pay for, sadly.

[iceman1980]

Publicado originalmente por Monk:

So, no evidence such as a make or model even, fact is, the latest iPhone is very fast and technically good, you cannot match the performance on a budget handset like you claimed.

Same for pc hardware, yes you can get deals and discounts, but if you are fixed to a set price, there isn't that much variation, likewise, you cannot make a 2080 faster than a 2080ti, somethings you have to pay for, sadly.

No you can't. I've owned both Mid and now own a flagship. Was it worth it, I really don't know flagship phones are power hungry.

Publicado originalmente por Monk:

So, no evidence such as a make or model even, fact is, the latest iPhone is very fast and technically good, you cannot match the performance on a budget handset like you claimed.

Same for pc hardware, yes you can get deals and discounts, but if you are fixed to a set price, there isn't that much variation, likewise, you cannot make a 2080 faster than a 2080ti, somethings you have to pay for, sadly.

In engineering terms technically you could change the BGA grid and the soldered on chips for insertable sockets and there you go you have an upgradable GPU. and upgradable MOSFETs / chokes. Blank GPU board install what you want. Leave the device fundementelly the same.

But even if you design a board like this probably would make Nvidia mad, they wouldn't allow it. Purely from an engineering stand point it's not impossible to create tiny ZIF sockets for the RAM and a ZIF for the GPU.

[Monk]

I'm not entirely sure why you quoted me there, but, going removable on components also tends to make them larger, personally I like a tough phone that can take calls and survive falling out of my pocket when on a motorbike and have no need for a smart phone, so i don't own one.

If I did, apple would be at the bottom of the list for their practices and locked off environment.

Also, I feel removing a headphone jack sucks, extra dongles are something else to loose.

[iceman1980]

Publicado originalmente por Monk:

I'm not entirely sure why you quoted me there, but, going removable on components also tends to make them larger, personally I like a tough phone that can take calls and survive falling out of my pocket when on a motorbike and have no need for a smart phone, so i don't own one.

If I did, apple would be at the bottom of the list for their practices and locked off environment.

Also, I feel removing a headphone jack sucks, extra dongles are something else to loose.

Yep Samsung now removed it too... Screw bluetooth. Bluetooth isn't immune to noise.. A physical cable if built right is far more resilient to it. Just wait till there are hundreds thousands of people walking around with Bluetooth earphones we are going to need something like 802.11AX to deal with the mass amount of devices.

Already crowded 2.4Ghz unregistered band. So congested is this band everything occupies it including microwave ovens..

[UTFapolloMarine]

titan all day dude

[Spritelens219]

wow thank you all for all the answers ive been asleep and wake up to 20 comments on this.

i was looking for background on each one and i got the answers i needed thanks!

[Mad Scientist]

Publicado originalmente por Monk:

So, no evidence such as a make or model even, fact is, the latest iPhone is very fast and technically good, you cannot match the performance on a budget handset like you claimed.

Same for pc hardware, yes you can get deals and discounts, but if you are fixed to a set price, there isn't that much variation, likewise, you cannot make a 2080 faster than a 2080ti, somethings you have to pay for, sadly.

You didn't ask, nor would it change your mind regardless as you entirely ignored absolutely everything else for the sake of a poor argument that was debunked with the rest of it which was ignored. "Technically good" isn't good. If we're going to play circles around the whole do you

Some people can get really lucky as well, once had a guy OC a 750 Ti by 50% and it never died, had to have him send logs from the overclocking software and he was actually telling the truth. OC can cause a unit to surpass the unit above it when there's little differences. Not to mention, the sub-company (vendor) standards are a lot higher which allows for a higher OC chance since aftermarket PCBs are designed to allow more power and cleaner power delivery with better VRM cooling as a primary example. Some even inspect and test the GPUs themselves and if passing are put on their highest tier OC based video cards literally designed to be pushed as high as possible. Many GPUs can be OC'd to outdo the tier just above it, it's nothing new in the industry especially for non-reference units - which are oftne cheaper with better cooling solutions then reference design. Prices may be set as general MSRP, but there are sales and cuts depending on a few variables, that and some of us got units for free or high discount and can often select units to receive for free including ones made by the other vendors. It's a neat perk.



To the point: User doesn't need to overpay for a TITAN, nor does one need to have an iphone XR to have the best performance. See the RUST example as well, price doesn't equal performance advantage.

[tacoshy]

I wonder how this discussion derailed with a discussion if radon is a better card for workstation... No it's not.

If we talk about office work we neither need a Radon VII, RTX 2080 To or Titan RTX. The iGPU will do fine or any other budget GPU.

If we actually talk about high end workstation OK n for professional stuff ďnot office like the OP mentioned) that it's still neither of those cards.

Then you go with Quarto cards that have 24GB VRAM.

[Mr Blonde]

Publicado originalmente por Orion:

Publicado originalmente por Monk:

So, no evidence such as a make or model even, fact is, the latest iPhone is very fast and technically good, you cannot match the performance on a budget handset like you claimed.

Same for pc hardware, yes you can get deals and discounts, but if you are fixed to a set price, there isn't that much variation, likewise, you cannot make a 2080 faster than a 2080ti, somethings you have to pay for, sadly.

You didn't ask, nor would it change your mind regardless as you entirely ignored absolutely everything else for the sake of a poor argument that was debunked with the rest of it which was ignored. "Technically good" isn't good. If we're going to play circles around the whole do you

Some people can get really lucky as well, once had a guy OC a 750 Ti by 50% and it never died, had to have him send logs from the overclocking software and he was actually telling the truth. OC can cause a unit to surpass the unit above it when there's little differences. Not to mention, the sub-company (vendor) standards are a lot higher which allows for a higher OC chance since aftermarket PCBs are designed to allow more power and cleaner power delivery with better VRM cooling as a primary example. Some even inspect and test the GPUs themselves and if passing are put on their highest tier OC based video cards literally designed to be pushed as high as possible. Many GPUs can be OC'd to outdo the tier just above it, it's nothing new in the industry especially for non-reference units - which are oftne cheaper with better cooling solutions then reference design. Prices may be set as general MSRP, but there are sales and cuts depending on a few variables, that and some of us got units for free or high discount and can often select units to receive for free including ones made by the other vendors. It's a neat perk.



To the point: User doesn't need to overpay for a TITAN, nor does one need to have an iphone XR to have the best performance. See the RUST example as well, price doesn't equal performance advantage.

But you could use that overpay concept on anything. Houses, cars, clothes etc

Some people want the best or what’s seen as the best because it makes them feel good and if that person works for a living and can afford it then why not?

I’m not an apple fanboy but I always get the apple phones, I don’t even get a phone contract I buy pay as you go cos it suits my needs.

[Nabster]

Agreed

[Monk]

Orion, you never made any good or valid points and still haven't backed up your bs claim, I said technically as I dont like them, but on a technical front they are very good and amongst the most powerful, objectively speaking.

Also, a 50% oc isn't unheard of on older cards, however, you won't get a lower card out performing a higher one when you over clock the higher card also.

[tacoshy]

besides overclocking doesnt make up for missing Cuda-Cores. The GTX 2070 easily reach clockspeeds above 2GHz while the 1080 Ti msotly stays at aroudn 1.9GHz. Still the GTX 1080 Ti performs around 85% better.

As often clockspeeds are not the thing that matters.