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but for 2xxx cpus its just fine
I have 3900x and x470 taichi combox and it keep overheating (idle temp around 70-80c). The recent bios update fixed my problem, but who knows what kind of problem lies ahead.
That MSI B450 is much better choice, very good bang for buck.
I had the first non-max MSI b450 Tomahawk and it was nice. MSI did really well with B450 and the bios flash without needing a cpu feature was a great move on their part. Too bad about the rom size issue though.