MSI BIOS Flash

[Elon Mosque]

Hello everyone, I wanted to share my recent experience with MSI's BIOS flash feature without the need of an CPU.

Basically my friend wanted to swap his Intel build to a Ryzen one but since x570 motherboards were out of his budget he ordered MSI B450 Gaming Plus (which has this feature so he counted on this) and a R5 3600. He asked me to install it yesterday.

Before I put the new motherboard I followed everything the manual said with for flashing the latest bios, with the new flashing method and everything was looking as its supposed to be. After I put everything and turned on. The GPU fans were %100 and no display, the debug led was showing there was CPU error.

I thought why not try again and flashed again and with no avail it didn't work. This wasn't my first Ryzen build either. Thanks to this useless feature we had to waste an entire day, take the case to the car and went to another friend to take his 2600x from his system and put to this new one just to flash the bios...

So TLDR: To everyone who plans to make an build B450+3000 series, either wait for updated B450 motherboards or you need a CPU to update because right now MSI's method doesn't work.

[Omega]

Boards from Asus and Gigabyte are often capable of updating without a working CPU. You should have gone for one of those.

[Elon Mosque]

Messaggio originale di Omega:

Boards from Asus and Gigabyte are often capable of updating without a working CPU. You should have gone for one of those.

In theory this has the same feature as well as it is stated here.
https://www.msi.com/blog/the-latest-bios-for-amd-300-400-series-motherboard

[Omega]

Messaggio originale di Agnes Washington:

Messaggio originale di Omega:

Boards from Asus and Gigabyte are often capable of updating without a working CPU. You should have gone for one of those.

In theory this has the same feature as well as it is stated here.
https://www.msi.com/blog/the-latest-bios-for-amd-300-400-series-motherboard

Then you are doing it wrong. If your board has Mflash it should just work.

[ericcui1]

Messaggio originale di Omega:

Boards from Asus and Gigabyte are often capable of updating without a working CPU. You should have gone for one of those.

MSI has more AM4 models that has that feature. But after all, it's not as reliable as the traditional method, no matter which brand.

[Elon Mosque]

Messaggio originale di Omega:

Messaggio originale di Agnes Washington:

In theory this has the same feature as well as it is stated here.
https://www.msi.com/blog/the-latest-bios-for-amd-300-400-series-motherboard

Then you are doing it wrong. If your board has Mflash it should just work.

No I didnt do it wrong. We have checked reddit as well and lots of people suffer from this issue from MSI boards. I did everything manual said and I know how to flash a new BIOS.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cc80bk/msi_b450_gaming_pro_carbon_ac_ryzen_3000_cpus/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body

[Malygos]

Another known issue might as well just go x570 i dropped mine in and didnt have to download anything until the new bios came alomg which was ♥♥♥♥♥♥ so I didnt even download it. Amd blew it real hard on this whole backwards compatability thing its been headaches for everyone i saw try it

[Elon Mosque]

Messaggio originale di jefedemuchanina:

Another known issue might as well just go x570 i dropped mine in and didnt have to download anything until the new bios came alomg which was ♥♥♥♥♥♥ so I didnt even download it. Amd blew it real hard on this whole backwards compatability thing its been headaches for everyone i saw try it

If it was my build I would just grab an good X570 board and never deal with this problems. But everyone has different budget for components 🤷🏻‍♂️

[Malygos]

Cheapest x570 boards are only $50ish dollars more than that board its worth it to not have to deal with that ♥♥♥♥ and be able to drop in and play

[Elon Mosque]

Messaggio originale di jefedemuchanina:

Cheapest x570 boards are only $50ish dollars more than that board its worth it to not have to deal with that ♥♥♥♥ and be able to drop in and play

Well to be fair B450 was 90$ and cheapest X570 is around 218-220 $ so theres a quite difference here.

[Malygos]

Messaggio originale di Agnes Washington:

Messaggio originale di jefedemuchanina:

Cheapest x570 boards are only $50ish dollars more than that board its worth it to not have to deal with that ♥♥♥♥ and be able to drop in and play

Well to be fair B450 was 90$ and cheapest X570 is around 218-220 $ so theres a quite difference here.

Wot asrock phantom is $154 and has a $10 rebate to make it $144 and each board maker has a board at the $160-165 range are they marked up other places or something?

[Elon Mosque]

Messaggio originale di jefedemuchanina:

Messaggio originale di Agnes Washington:

Well to be fair B450 was 90$ and cheapest X570 is around 218-220 $ so theres a quite difference here.

Wot asrock phantom is $154 and has a $10 rebate to make it $144 and each board maker has a board at the $160-165 range are they marked up other places or something?

It's because high taxes in our country in electronics ,imagine like when you are buying something you buy another one for a "friend" whom that is the government.

[Malygos]

Messaggio originale di Agnes Washington:

Messaggio originale di jefedemuchanina:

Wot asrock phantom is $154 and has a $10 rebate to make it $144 and each board maker has a board at the $160-165 range are they marked up other places or something?

It's because high taxes in our country in electronics ,imagine like when you are buying something you buy another one for a "friend" whom that is the government.

Well that blows and its gonna be a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ option but if you get on amd’s website they will send you a loaner cpu to update your bios so you can instal 3rd gen but who knows how long it takes for them to send it to you

[Elon Mosque]

Messaggio originale di jefedemuchanina:

Messaggio originale di Agnes Washington:

It's because high taxes in our country in electronics ,imagine like when you are buying something you buy another one for a "friend" whom that is the government.

Well that blows and its gonna be a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ option but if you get on amd’s website they will send you a loaner cpu to update your bios so you can instal 3rd gen but who knows how long it takes for them to send it to you

Oh i didnt know that, will look into it. Maybe next time that can save a lot out trouble , thanks!

[r.linder]

Messaggio originale di Omega:

Boards from Asus and Gigabyte are often capable of updating without a working CPU. You should have gone for one of those.

With Gigabyte, it has to be Q-Flash+, not standard Q-Flash

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Again, look through the pdf manual and understand your boards features before you buy it.

And yes it does work on most boards, even B350 boards. But again not all boards will have this flash feature when cpu and ram are not present.