Help with basics? Cases, monitors, etc.
Beginning down my journey of building a PC, and started with one of Pcpartpicker's build guides. My budget is ~$1500.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DsnMq4

This is simple copy-paste of the suggested parts, but I only understand about half of what I'm looking at and I have a billion questions. I know I'll have to tweak a lot of things down since the parts that are there already go over 1500 and I need peripherals as well.

1. What separates a good case from a bad case?
2. Is it worth it to try and get a 144 hz monitor? Is 60 hz always cheaper?
3. What is a CPU Cooler? @_@ I guess it cools the CPU.
4. How do I know if I got a proper motherboard? What's the difference between one and another?
5. The parts aren't compatible with an optical drive and I'm not sure why.
6. What else is required that I might be forgetting?
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Netsa; 5 Αυγ 2019, 14:33
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You know about all the drawbacks to VA panels, and choose it over a TN/IPS?
If so, then you've made an informed choice, and I can't fault that.

It does have Freesync (Adaptive sync), from 48-144hz, meaning if your FPS drops below that, it will stutter and tear.
And Freesync is software based, and Gsync is hardware based. Gsync is better (And only works with Nvidia GPUs), but it comes at a price premium.

Yes, faster RAM is worth it, imo. Especially when (DDR4) RAM has never been cheaper.

Is ghosting independent of the response time? It's not exactly an easy choice between ghosting and bad viewing angles.

I suggest going 27".
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No, response time is how long it takes for a pixel to change colour, longer means slow transition, and that's what ghosting is.
With response time, ignore what the manufacturer say, the '1ms' (GTG or MRPT) rating is just their fastest responding pixel time recorded, you want to look at the average.
And, you also what to make sure the average response time is faster than it takes for a new frame to be displayed, so for 144hz a frame is updated every 6.9ms, you'd want something that responds faster than that, other wise there could be some ghosting. So you're gonna want a <7ms average pixel response time.

And, viewing angles aren't going to be a problem with a decent TN panel, on my (somewhat high end) Dell S2417DG, I can get to about 85 degrees, and still see with decent colours and no warping or anything. And, you're not looking at your monitor at 45 degrees all the time are you? You're gonna look at it straight on, it won't be a problem if you do.

How am I supposed to find the average?

I tend to move around in my chair a lot, so yeah, I'm not always looking straight at the screen. It bothered me a lot on a much older monitor I used to have, so I'm trying to avoid them.
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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Autumn:
No, response time is how long it takes for a pixel to change colour, longer means slow transition, and that's what ghosting is.
With response time, ignore what the manufacturer say, the '1ms' (GTG or MRPT) rating is just their fastest responding pixel time recorded, you want to look at the average.
And, you also what to make sure the average response time is faster than it takes for a new frame to be displayed, so for 144hz a frame is updated every 6.9ms, you'd want something that responds faster than that, other wise there could be some ghosting. So you're gonna want a <7ms average pixel response time.

And, viewing angles aren't going to be a problem with a decent TN panel, on my (somewhat high end) Dell S2417DG, I can get to about 85 degrees, and still see with decent colours and no warping or anything. And, you're not looking at your monitor at 45 degrees all the time are you? You're gonna look at it straight on, it won't be a problem if you do.

How am I supposed to find the average?

I tend to move around in my chair a lot, so yeah, I'm not always looking straight at the screen. It bothered me a lot on a much older monitor I used to have, so I'm trying to avoid them.
Look at reviews (from monitor review websites), they'll often tell you the average response time.
Or, you can do what I do, and use Displayspecifications.com and see what the average response time is there, and also double check from other reviewers if you think the monitor looks promising.

And, like I said, viewing angles aren't really a problem with a semi-decent TN panel.
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How am I supposed to find the average?

I tend to move around in my chair a lot, so yeah, I'm not always looking straight at the screen. It bothered me a lot on a much older monitor I used to have, so I'm trying to avoid them.
Look at reviews (from monitor review websites), they'll often tell you the average response time.
Or, you can do what I do, and use Displayspecifications.com and see what the average response time is there, and also double check from other reviewers if you think the monitor looks promising.

And, like I said, viewing angles aren't really a problem with a semi-decent TN panel.

Checking the site it says the average is 4, and it doesn't look too bad from videos but I don't have a reference. Did you have a TN monitor in mind?

Edit:
To answer one of my previous questions, it looks like bluetooth and wi-fi can potentially be built-in to the motherboard. More research necessary.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Netsa; 5 Αυγ 2019, 19:46
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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Autumn:
Look at reviews (from monitor review websites), they'll often tell you the average response time.
Or, you can do what I do, and use Displayspecifications.com and see what the average response time is there, and also double check from other reviewers if you think the monitor looks promising.

And, like I said, viewing angles aren't really a problem with a semi-decent TN panel.

Checking the site it says the average is 4, and it doesn't look too bad from videos but I don't have a reference. Did you have a TN monitor in mind?

Edit:
To answer one of my previous questions, it looks like bluetooth and wi-fi can potentially be built-in to the motherboard. More research necessary.
No, I didn't have a monitor in mind, I was just wondering what you wanted more in a monitor, and then give you a good price/performance monitor for your need/wants.
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Autumn:
No, I didn't have a monitor in mind, I was just wondering what you wanted more in a monitor, and then give you a good price/performance monitor for your need/wants.

Just looking for 1080p and 144 hz with little to no ghosting, and at least 24". I'll look up one of the TN monitors on the list once I have time later. I decided against it initially because of VA vs TN video comparisons.
One Thing to add: Respond time is not the Input lag. Respond time on the Data sheet is the grey to grey (GtG) cycle time which is pretty much an useless information if you play with colors instead of only with grey tones.

It tells nothing about the input lag nor the time a pixel needs to change from one color to another.

A good case Vs bad case:
-Sharp edges Vs folded edges
-build space
-radiator support
-modularity
-cable managment
-materials (plastic Vs aluminum Vs steel)
-airflow
-design including PSU shroud or double chamber
-rubber grooming for cables or not
-add on/spare part store like Cooler Master has
-cooler clearance
-gpu clearance
-stock fans
...
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από tacoshy; 5 Αυγ 2019, 22:46
If you want wifi on the motherboard, the board is going to have a fair bit of a price bump to get that onboard.

Just get a decent pcie card

Such as...
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tTdqqs/gigabyte-wireless-network-card-gcwb867di
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Bad 💀 Motha; 6 Αυγ 2019, 7:57
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If you want wifi on the motherboard, the board is going to have a fair bit of a price bump to get that onboard.

Just get a decent pcie card

Such as...
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tTdqqs/gigabyte-wireless-network-card-gcwb867di

Thanks. Decided against the on-board wi-fi when I was researching it yesterday, for the reason you just stated along with someone mentioning the obvious: "you can replace or upgrade it without rebuilding your entire system".
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