TheKronalt 2019 年 8 月 3 日 上午 7:55
Which DAC/AMP/External Sound Card should i buy for DT990 Premium Edition?
I bought recently the DT990 Premium from amazon.de, i bought G5 with it. But i resend it because in reddit someone said to me its worse than AMP/DAC combo. So what should i buy? I have 150$ limit and im living in Turkey. So some product sellers don't send the cargo to here. So what do you recommend. I will use it for gaming and i was looking Creative Sound Blaster X G6, but i don't know.
引用自 EliteGamer:
I have the G5 and G6 and the G6 sounds way better than the G5. The G6 sounds great and it’s certainly worth the money. I also have the AE-5 and I also recommend that.
The AE-5 and G6 sound quality, it’s hard to separate them. I prefer the sound of the AE-5 when it comes to speakers, but the G6 definitely powers all my headphones better than the AE-5. The G6 at volume say 20 on headphones, I would have to have the AE-5 at volume 45 or more to match the G6 loudness at volume 20, so the G6 is way louder when using headphones.
The AE-7 and AE-9 just got released, 2 new PCIe sound cards that have improved on the AE-5, so will most definitely sound awesome too.
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EliteGamer 2019 年 8 月 5 日 上午 6:47 
The AE-5 and G6 sound great with music, movies and games if you use “direct mode” since it’s straight from the DAC just like any other DAC.
Most people who haven’t used either just repeat what those reviews on YouTube say who used Sound Blaster cards using SBX mode using the virtual surround etc... for gaming. SBX isn’t suited to listening to music too, that’s what direct mode is for. Direct mode works just like any other DAC... every special effect is turned off and then it comes down to DAC quality, a cheap DAC isn’t going to compete with a high end DAC.
最後修改者:EliteGamer; 2019 年 8 月 5 日 上午 7:27
Revelene 2019 年 8 月 5 日 上午 7:35 
引用自 EliteGamer
The AE-5 and G6 sound great with music, movies and games if you use “direct mode” since it’s straight from the DAC just like any other DAC.
Most people who haven’t used either just repeat what those reviews on YouTube say who used Sound Blaster cards using SBX mode using the virtual surround etc... for gaming. SBX isn’t suited to listening to music too, that’s what direct mode is for. Direct mode works just like any other DAC... every special effect is turned off and then it comes down to DAC quality, a cheap DAC isn’t going to compete with a high end DAC.

I've used both the AE-5 and G6, yes in direct mode, and I don't like them for music. IMO, they sound too sanitary and have no "soul". Especially with the audio produced today, it makes a lot of music just straight up hurt my ears (besides a lot of it just being terrible music LOL).

It doesn't always come down to the DAC. There are so many other factors... and, like I said before, the biggest factor of all... YOUR EARS! :O

Seriously, audio is subjective.
EliteGamer 2019 年 8 月 5 日 上午 7:56 
Of course you've used them both Revelene with your history....Anybody can say they used this and that on the internet, but without proof, it's just "BS"

As for hurting ears, that's down to either cheap headphones or having volume to loud. The G6 headphone amp sounds superb with my DT 1990 Pro's.
最後修改者:EliteGamer; 2019 年 8 月 5 日 上午 8:17
Revelene 2019 年 8 月 5 日 上午 8:14 
引用自 EliteGamer
Of course you've used them both Revelene with your history....Anybody can say they used this and that on the internet, but without proof, it's just "BS"

lol you're looking at this like it is a battle of "I have this!" or "I have that!", but that simply isn't the case. Please don't start that on this thread.

Audio is subjective. That is fact. With that, and the fact that there are different use cases, you cannot simply say one is best for everyone.
最後修改者:Revelene; 2019 年 8 月 5 日 上午 8:15
EliteGamer 2019 年 8 月 5 日 上午 9:24 
引用自 Revelene
引用自 EliteGamer
Of course you've used them both Revelene with your history....Anybody can say they used this and that on the internet, but without proof, it's just "BS"

lol you're looking at this like it is a battle of "I have this!" or "I have that!", but that simply isn't the case. Please don't start that on this thread.

Audio is subjective. That is fact. With that, and the fact that there are different use cases, you cannot simply say one is best for everyone.

We both know you're only saying the AE-5 and G6 are bad because of your problem with me in the past. It was about a year ago wasn't it? That's just silly. What happens if I had a 8K DAC? Would that be bad with your EARS too???? LOL Not one review says the G6 sound quality is bad or anything like anything what you described it as, so cut the crap. The only negative Sound Blasters usually get is software related, but that depends on the users PC's, not Creative. I've never had any issues with Sound Blaster Connect 2 software.

If you really did own them and have used them, you could provide proof... Just saying...

I've never said they're the best out there, but they sound so good for the price, it's hard to warrant to spend extra cash on something else that might only be slightly better.

You keep saying audio is subjective, so be quite and respect what I say. I don't want another 100+ page battle with you.
r.linder 2019 年 8 月 5 日 上午 9:34 
引用自 EliteGamer
引用自 Revelene

lol you're looking at this like it is a battle of "I have this!" or "I have that!", but that simply isn't the case. Please don't start that on this thread.

Audio is subjective. That is fact. With that, and the fact that there are different use cases, you cannot simply say one is best for everyone.

We both know you're only saying the AE-5 and G6 are bad because of your problem with me in the past. It was about a year ago wasn't it? That's just silly. What happens if I had a 8K DAC? Would that be bad with your EARS too???? LOL Not one review says the G6 sound quality is bad or anything like anything what you described it as, so cut the crap. The only negative Sound Blasters usually get is software related, but that depends on the users PC's, not Creative. I've never had any issues with Sound Blaster Connect 2 software.

If you really did own them and have used them, you could provide proof... Just saying...

I've never said they're the best out there, but they sound so good for the price, it's hard to warrant to spend extra cash on something else that might only be slightly better.

You keep saying audio is subjective, so be quite and respect what I say. I don't want another 100+ page battle with you.

You want people to be quiet and respect what you say, but yet half of what you say is just you bragging about your money and all of the expensive hardware and peripherals you claim to own. Not going to happen when you've done the opposite of what you ask of others, but I guess you think that's not the case because an elitist can't see passed their own ego. (Shocker, you act like an elitist and Elite is in your Steam IGN.)
tacoshy 2019 年 8 月 5 日 上午 9:41 
引用自 Escorve
引用自 EliteGamer

We both know you're only saying the AE-5 and G6 are bad because of your problem with me in the past. It was about a year ago wasn't it? That's just silly. What happens if I had a 8K DAC? Would that be bad with your EARS too???? LOL Not one review says the G6 sound quality is bad or anything like anything what you described it as, so cut the crap. The only negative Sound Blasters usually get is software related, but that depends on the users PC's, not Creative. I've never had any issues with Sound Blaster Connect 2 software.

If you really did own them and have used them, you could provide proof... Just saying...

I've never said they're the best out there, but they sound so good for the price, it's hard to warrant to spend extra cash on something else that might only be slightly better.

You keep saying audio is subjective, so be quite and respect what I say. I don't want another 100+ page battle with you.

You want people to be quiet and respect what you say, but yet half of what you say is just you bragging about your money and all of the expensive hardware and peripherals you claim to own. Not going to happen when you've done the opposite of what you ask of others, but I guess you think that's not the case because an elitist can't see passed their own ego. (Shocker, you act like an elitist and Elite is in your Steam IGN.)

last time it was already funny enough when he said you cant have good sound below 130dB...
He said below 130dB everything will just sound awfull... you cant get good sound with 70-90dB...
he said he is the elitist ebcause he can afford to listen everythign at 130dB+ and we are not :D

This guy clearly has no idea what he is talking about and certainly not what 130dB are :D
r.linder 2019 年 8 月 5 日 上午 9:44 
引用自 tacoshy
引用自 Escorve

You want people to be quiet and respect what you say, but yet half of what you say is just you bragging about your money and all of the expensive hardware and peripherals you claim to own. Not going to happen when you've done the opposite of what you ask of others, but I guess you think that's not the case because an elitist can't see passed their own ego. (Shocker, you act like an elitist and Elite is in your Steam IGN.)

last time it was already funny enough when he said you cant have good sound below 130dB...
He said below 130dB everything will just sound awfull... you cant get good sound with 70-90dB...
he said he is the elitist ebcause he can afford to listen everythign at 130dB+ and we are not :D

This guy clearly has no idea what he is talking about and certainly not what 130dB are :D

I won't act like I know, because I don't. Sound technology is pretty beyond me still because I haven't experimented with audio devices of higher calibre that audiophiles prefer yet.
Autumn_ 2019 年 8 月 5 日 上午 9:45 
引用自 tacoshy
引用自 Escorve

You want people to be quiet and respect what you say, but yet half of what you say is just you bragging about your money and all of the expensive hardware and peripherals you claim to own. Not going to happen when you've done the opposite of what you ask of others, but I guess you think that's not the case because an elitist can't see passed their own ego. (Shocker, you act like an elitist and Elite is in your Steam IGN.)

last time it was already funny enough when he said you cant have good sound below 130dB...
He said below 130dB everything will just sound awfull... you cant get good sound with 70-90dB...
he said he is the elitist ebcause he can afford to listen everythign at 130dB+ and we are not :D

This guy clearly has no idea what he is talking about and certainly not what 130dB are :D
If that's true, then ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥; anything above 120db can cause some pretty bad damage to your ears.....
tacoshy 2019 年 8 月 5 日 上午 9:46 
引用自 Escorve
引用自 tacoshy

last time it was already funny enough when he said you cant have good sound below 130dB...
He said below 130dB everything will just sound awfull... you cant get good sound with 70-90dB...
he said he is the elitist ebcause he can afford to listen everythign at 130dB+ and we are not :D

This guy clearly has no idea what he is talking about and certainly not what 130dB are :D

I won't act like I know, because I don't. Sound technology is pretty beyond me still because I haven't experimented with audio devices of higher calibre that audiophiles prefer yet.

well dB is the rating how how loud a sound is. 130dB is about the level of a plane jet engine. If you need the loudness of jet engine to get clear and good sound and say you cant have clear and good sound and low noice level then... well make your own mind
EliteGamer 2019 年 8 月 5 日 上午 9:46 
引用自 Escorve
引用自 EliteGamer

We both know you're only saying the AE-5 and G6 are bad because of your problem with me in the past. It was about a year ago wasn't it? That's just silly. What happens if I had a 8K DAC? Would that be bad with your EARS too???? LOL Not one review says the G6 sound quality is bad or anything like anything what you described it as, so cut the crap. The only negative Sound Blasters usually get is software related, but that depends on the users PC's, not Creative. I've never had any issues with Sound Blaster Connect 2 software.

If you really did own them and have used them, you could provide proof... Just saying...

I've never said they're the best out there, but they sound so good for the price, it's hard to warrant to spend extra cash on something else that might only be slightly better.

You keep saying audio is subjective, so be quite and respect what I say. I don't want another 100+ page battle with you.

You want people to be quiet and respect what you say, but yet half of what you say is just you bragging about your money and all of the expensive hardware and peripherals you claim to own. Not going to happen when you've done the opposite of what you ask of others, but I guess you think that's not the case because an elitist can't see passed their own ego. (Shocker, you act like an elitist and Elite is in your Steam IGN.)

Another perfect example.... Another guy who holds a grudge from a topic a week ago....

Where have I bragged in this thread about money or anything? I haven't. I just gave advice to someone asking for help about a product I own.

While we're on the subject, let's get this straight. There's no claims about anything I say I own, I have all the pictures of my stuff on my profile, so quit saying that.
最後修改者:EliteGamer; 2019 年 8 月 5 日 上午 9:52
EliteGamer 2019 年 8 月 5 日 上午 9:48 
引用自 tacoshy
引用自 Escorve

You want people to be quiet and respect what you say, but yet half of what you say is just you bragging about your money and all of the expensive hardware and peripherals you claim to own. Not going to happen when you've done the opposite of what you ask of others, but I guess you think that's not the case because an elitist can't see passed their own ego. (Shocker, you act like an elitist and Elite is in your Steam IGN.)

last time it was already funny enough when he said you cant have good sound below 130dB...
He said below 130dB everything will just sound awfull... you cant get good sound with 70-90dB...
he said he is the elitist ebcause he can afford to listen everythign at 130dB+ and we are not :D

This guy clearly has no idea what he is talking about and certainly not what 130dB are :D

I never said that, quit with the lies. Jesus, are you still mad cause I said TV's are no good for PC use? Get over it already.
最後修改者:EliteGamer; 2019 年 8 月 5 日 上午 9:49
tacoshy 2019 年 8 月 5 日 上午 9:54 
引用自 Autumn
引用自 tacoshy

last time it was already funny enough when he said you cant have good sound below 130dB...
He said below 130dB everything will just sound awfull... you cant get good sound with 70-90dB...
he said he is the elitist ebcause he can afford to listen everythign at 130dB+ and we are not :D

This guy clearly has no idea what he is talking about and certainly not what 130dB are :D
If that's true, then ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥; anything above 120db can cause some pretty bad damage to your ears.....

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/1651043320668071787/?ctp=2#c1652169858537712618
Autumn_ 2019 年 8 月 5 日 上午 9:55 
引用自 tacoshy
引用自 Autumn
If that's true, then ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥; anything above 120db can cause some pretty bad damage to your ears.....

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/1651043320668071787/?ctp=2#c1652169858537712618
I was just going to link it, lmao.
EliteGamer 2019 年 8 月 5 日 上午 9:57 
Yeah , I said 102 SNR isn't a good clean signal, that's true. You said I said anything under 130dB, I did not say that. Anything around 115dB is great. SNR and DNR are important features of sound cards, so they matter a lot. A higher rating is better than a lower rating.
最後修改者:EliteGamer; 2019 年 8 月 5 日 上午 10:19
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