PC build between £700-1000 new to PC dont have a clue
Hey guys I'm a true gamer that has put alot of time into my xbox, I'd say I play alot of high end games and i dont have a clue where to start on what gaming pc to buy, I have a budget and I can only finance so it will have to be from pcspecialist or anywhere else you guys know about with low interest, I'm really stuck and I just want the best setup I can possibly get for the money or please if it is not enough for top end high quality gaming please let me know as I know it wont be the best but I would like to atleast run any game on high settings, any advice would be amazing thanks guys.
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I dont have the money to buy all the separate parts at the minute though that's why I was going to finance though pcspecialist, does it work out alot cheaper building yourself or is there not much in it?
1. It's cheaper.
2. Paying in installments is more expensive as well.
I know but I dont have the money at the minute as I have just come back from america and I wont be able to save 1000 for atleast 6 months if not longer, pc specialist offeres a 0 percent finance if you pay within the first year of ordering so was just wondering if there recommended or not or if there is anywhere better..
ChrisG811 původně napsal:
I know but I dont have the money at the minute as I have just come back from america and I wont be able to save 1000 for atleast 6 months if not longer, pc specialist offeres a 0 percent finance if you pay within the first year of ordering so was just wondering if there recommended or not or if there is anywhere better..

wouldnt recommend so. Most stuff in prebuild PC's you should replace anyway. They normally cheap out on the PSU, RAM, motherboard, drives, cooler and often also on the GPU. But otherwise then that - it is you money and you can do with it what you please but no recommendation for that. I have a reputation to lose...
Okay so is there like a perfect configuration for my price range which alot of pro pc players will agree on?
ChrisG811 původně napsal:
Okay so is there like a perfect configuration for my price range which alot of pro pc players will agree on?

no there is not. The "perfect" configuration always depends on what you try to play or do, where youf rom, what sales currently running etc.
Thats why professional support actually is really helpfull at this matter and I advice against the common believe that you should use pcpartpicker without guidance or checkup by professionals.

most hardware simply runs. it doesnt matter from which brand. So you go with what is cheapest. The set of hardware however depends on what you try to achieve and intend to do. If you do streaming you need a higher focus on core count as example.
Also there a lot of tricky thigns to consider like needed high frequency RAM with AMD while Intel literally doesnt care for it.

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/Z7NQzy

thsi for example is a poor chocie of hardware a random eprson just did - unbalanced for its price. you get get better performing hardware that isnt outdated like this. If you exactly say what you want to do - there ppl here that going to recommend you builds while others will look about it and tell if it is a good build or not. YOu'll figure out fast who are the "real" professionals here and who are not.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/3gM3V6

This for 1000 GBP is a build you can get which is performing greatly while being balanced out. Ignore the warning as gigabyte MoBo's have Q-Flash and get be BIOS updated without CPU (just requires an USB Stick). Take it as example, where you still could see if you get a few pounds cheaper but is in general what you could get whiel being great for its price.

Personally I would take the Ryzen 2600 over the 3600 which is 80GBP cheaper and in games wont make such a huge difference. Also you can get then away with another B450 motherboard which might eb cheaper.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TryxD2

You can flash the BIOS using a USB stick and the BIOS flash button. 1000 euros = 1,100 US dollars which means you have money to buy peripherals/upgrade components.

The case has 4 preinstalled fans so you don’t have to install them yourself.

You can use the SSD for your boot drive and the games you play the most and the HDD for mass storage.

People usually prefer Nvidia when going into PC gaming but AMD had better price to performance ratios. If you don’t want the 5700XT, you can buy a RTX 2070 Super instead. It does have better power consumptions and temperature, but its worse in performance. You can buy a used GTX 1080 Ti as an alternative.
Ist 1000 GBP not USD or Euro...

Your case is terrible for that price. It's poor on airflow. Also that motherboard you have does not offer Q-Flash it requires an older CPU.

The case is terrible at that price because its poor on airflow? how much should a case with good airflow cost?

I mean he's proposing to buy an SSD, a hard drive, and a video card. The cpu and psu have their own air cooling. The video card does too.

The picture of the case I found on newegg seems to show a typical "suck in the front, blow out the back" design and the exhaust venting also allows for airflow over the PCIe slots.

It seems reasonable to me!

For around $50 USD, it's a good case and probably would last him a few upgrade cycles if it doesnt get kicked and the needs remain the same for the duration of ownership. I'd probably add more fans to the top and if the side was metal, put some there too, but I tend to overcrowd my system. His list of parts doesn't seem to have anything that demands much more than what the case is providing.

also I never heard of q-flash but I see it's vendor specific to gigabyte, so I am not sure how to put a price on that or why it requires a new or old CPU. Probably, Chris will never use that more than once, whatever it does that is better than a USB stick with a cmos/bios binary he downloaded off their website, but that's just me thinking about what my non-technical gamer friends would do. Less details, more shooting is what they want.

I think Chris just wants advice on the best "bang for his buck" to play on high settings, without worrying about a lot of the stuff more technical people care about.


Naposledy upravil SeriousCCIE; 2. srp. 2019 v 13.33
SeriousCCIE původně napsal:
The case is terrible at that price because its poor on airflow? how much should a case with good airflow cost?

I mean he's proposing to buy an SSD, a hard drive, and a video card. The cpu and psu have their own air cooling. The video card does too.

The picture of the case I found on newegg seems to show a typical "suck in the front, blow out the back" design and the exhaust venting also allows for airflow over the PCIe slots.

It seems reasonable to me!

For around $50 USD, it's a good case and probably would last him a few upgrade cycles if it doesnt get kicked and the needs remain the same for the duration of ownership. I'd probably add more fans to the top and if the side was metal, put some there too, but I tend to overcrowd my system. His list of parts doesn't seem to have anything that demands much more than what the case is providing.

also I never heard of q-flash but I see it's vendor specific to gigabyte, so I am not sure how to put a price on that or why it requires a new or old CPU. Probably, Chris will never use that more than once, whatever it does that is better than a USB stick with a cmos/bios binary he downloaded off their website, but that's just me thinking about what my non-technical gamer friends would do. Less details, more shooting is what they want.

I think Chris just wants advice on the best "bang for his buck" to play on high settings, without worrying about a lot of the stuff more technical people care about.
Q-Flash lets you update BIOS without a CPU, B450/X470 boards don't support Ryzen 3000 seires without a BIOS update, so it allows for that, it's pretty much needed unless you're going to buy an X570 board.

The case is trash, and you can get better for the money.
My budget is maximum £1000, I need it for high end gaming such as gta, rainbow six seige, ark survival etc.. and hopefully for games in the future, and yes I know alot of people on here have different opinions but I'm just hoping a few people will agree with what somone recommends and then I can go from there
SeriousCCIE původně napsal:
The case is terrible at that price because its poor on airflow? how much should a case with good airflow cost?

I mean he's proposing to buy an SSD, a hard drive, and a video card. The cpu and psu have their own air cooling. The video card does too.

All the hardware cools with the air inside the case - so you need an airflow also for CPU, GPU and everything else despite the PSU which sucks air from the bottom. If you have no airflow, your case ambient (temeprature inside the case) will raise and the GPU and CPU cooler have to use hot air to cool which of course does a terrible job comapred to cold air.

For the same price you get cases with better airflow. But also if you want a high performance airflow cases you have "cheap" stuff with the Lian-Li PC-O11 Dynamic and PC-O11 Air.

SeriousCCIE původně napsal:
The picture of the case I found on newegg seems to show a typical "suck in the front, blow out the back" design and the exhaust venting also allows for airflow over the PCIe slots.

It seems reasonable to me!

Thats the problem it sucks air fromt he front which is a solid temepred glass with no holes. the real intake is on top of the glass which is very small. Thats why the airflow is actually so poor. It looks cool but for thermals it is terrible. You cant rate or recommend cases according to pictures, you actually have to know them. I'm a long time CM buyer and my store was also for a while a distributer for them. We cut them from our sales advertisements after the Cooler Master MasterCase Pro 5 as they started with solid tempered glass fronts then (with the upgrade package to MasterCase Pro 6 and their RGB cases).

SeriousCCIE původně napsal:
also I never heard of q-flash but I see it's vendor specific to gigabyte, so I am not sure how to put a price on that or why it requires a new or old CPU. Probably, Chris will never use that more than once, whatever it does that is better than a USB stick with a cmos/bios binary he downloaded off their website, but that's just me thinking about what my non-technical gamer friends would do. Less details, more shooting is what they want.

That's the problem, Asus has their own version of Q-Flash (EasyFlash) which however is not used on all motherboards. To update a BIOS you need a CPU and RAM from the motherboards generation or older. The CPU Ryzen 5 3600 will not run on that motherboard befor updating BIOS for which you again need an older CPU (1st or 2nd Generation Ryzen). Q-Flash or EasyFlash would allow you to update the BIOS without older CPU. So in any case with that solution the OP would never be able to make it run without buying a 2nd CPU (which is stupid to byu 2 CPU's just to save 10$ on the motherboard).
And thats also the problem: If you want recommend such stuff you need to know the technical stuff. If you want to just shoot you can't shoot in the first place if you cant make your PC run because somebody recommended stuff that wont work.

SeriousCCIE původně napsal:
I think Chris just wants advice on the best "bang for his buck" to play on high settings, without worrying about a lot of the stuff more technical people care about.

yeah see above. YOu ahve to worry about the technical stuff if you want your PC to run at all. So its not just buying the cheapest but without thinking. You actually have to see and know what will eb compatible.

@SeriosCCIE: I see you want to get a foothold in the HW&OS Forum and you are evry welcomed here. Problem with the Forum si that you have a lot of ppl talkign ehre and recommending stuff which si terrible ebcause they have no real lfie experience with it. They read abotu soemthing and believe that this would make them professionals. Problem with that compared to other forums is, that ppl here going to waste their hard earned moeny in believing thsoe ppl. Thats why you have many Forum-Regulars (like me and my group) that going to combat that recommendations which explanations you dont have to really udnerstand if you dont know a lot about this stuff but still remain true or give the experience ppl a basis to discuss about.
Whatever you do or say, justr emind that somebody else might going to spend money based on what they read here. Unless you want to be possibly responsible for them wastign their money, you have to be absolutly sure what yout alk off and for that also actually the experience and knowledge about the technical stuff.
Naposledy upravil tacoshy; 2. srp. 2019 v 14.02
oh ok on the qflash. that would be convenient if he didn't get a CPU that worked out of the box with it. I have had that issue in the past, but ended up just getting a bios chip from the vendor.

I am not sure what case I'd recommend then if you didn't like that one for his budget. What do you think he needs then for about that price?



Tacoshy; uh hey I have a case labs sth10 with 47 fans and a water loop for the cpu, and one each for the video. i just designed and created my own water chiller using parts from old video card heatsinks, two 12710 and one 12730 TEC units (the 12730 uses a threadripper heatsink to expel heat) and old 550 watt power supply, and automotive DC 12v car parts. I don't have a threadripper cpu, just the heatsink, and it's just for the 12730 tec. This is all managed by an aquaero, but I built a manual switch panel so I could turn things off and on as I want to in case I am putzing around with sensor values or in case the service crashes or something.

I would like to think at this stage I am familiar with cooling a PC, but... I admit I don't know the limits of a $50 case.

But none of that really matters to him; I was trying to stick to his budget and level of comfort, but we got overly technical I think with stuff like this.

Thats why I eventually asked what he should get since everyone was able to say not to buy that case, but not what to actually buy instead that would be better for the same price.

sorry if I derailed in my attempt to keep on track. it sounds like we all want to help but are not quite focused on saying what we think he'd be happy with...

Naposledy upravil SeriousCCIE; 2. srp. 2019 v 14.02
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