MSi afterburner issues.

[Lord Flashheart]

Hi all
I just a did minor changes to my setup with unintended consequences.

I have a B450 tomahawk motherboard 3600X pu + 3200 Mhz low latency memory.

I use MSI afterburner to monitor stats when playing.

I had a boot drive 240GB as working well.
My games were on a 1TB drive.
I changed the 240Gb boot drive from MBR to GPT and changed the boot options in the bios. All went well.

Then I installed a 2TB drive into the machine and cloned the boot drive to the 2TB drive. Created a partition for games and copied them all over.

Then wiped the 240GB drive.
the 2TB hard drive was the boot drive obviously slow. I installed storeMI and created a tiered storage device with the 2TB drive accelerated with the 240GB SSD.

All is working apparently well.
I backup all data of course.

I now have a curious situation.

Some games do not show the MSI afterburner on screen display. I also use HWinfo 64 to display stuff. I has to turn off the drive scanning in hwinfo64 for compatibility with storeMI.

I like to play older games. It turns out that all DX9 games will not display the on screen display.

I have booted into safe mode & uninstalled the graphics drivers with DDU & reinstalled. No change.

Uninstalled & reinstalled MSI afterburner. No change.

I tried to reinstall directx through the web installed but it just stated it was up to date and need to reinstall.

So there were changes to my storage setup and it works as expected but odd issues with the display.

Useful Suggestions Appreciated?

Any BS opinions about how my my system setup not so much.

[Midnight Fawn]

It's RivaTuner Statistics Server that displays the stats, maybe try and set the application detection level to High within RTSS, also, Manually add the game in RTSS application profile.

One thing i have noticed sometimes with using RTSS and older games, if i start the game first, then start MSI AB and RTSS, press the key I had bound to show stats, it works..

Worth a try..

[Lord Flashheart]

Originally posted by Midnight Fawn:

It's RivaTuner Statistics Server that displays the stats, maybe try and set the application detection level to High within RTSS, also, Manually add the game in RTSS application profile.

One thing i have noticed sometimes with using RTSS and older games, if i start the game first, then start MSI AB, press the key i had bound to show stats, it works..

Worth a try..

Thanks for reply. Made no difference.

I am guessing but dirextx may be corrupted. I want to find a way to force a reinstall if I can.

[Midnight Fawn]

You can't uninstall DirectX unfortunately, but you can repair it by using the DirectX Redist (June 2010) installer package.
if there are corrupt files found, It will overwrite all DX files but not DX12 ones..

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=35

[Lord Flashheart]

Originally posted by Midnight Fawn:

You can't uninstall DirectX unfortunately, but you can repair it by using the DirectX Redist (June 2010) installer package.
if there are corrupt files found, It will overwrite all DX files but not DX12 ones..

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=35

I tried that. I run it and it states 'Directx setup has determined that a newer or equivalent version of Directx has been installed already. No installation is necessary'

It is very annoying. Is there a way to force an install?

[Midnight Fawn]

There is a registry hack, but i have never got it to work:

In the Registry and navigate too...

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\DirectX

Open the Version key and change the number to an earlier version, say... 4.07.00.0904.

Click OK and close the registry.

Run Windows updates manually ( or maybe the DX Web Installer ? ) and the current DX12 file(s) should get overwritten with the 'new' version.

If nothing happens reboot and run updates again (it may even update during the reboot).

[Lord Flashheart]

Already tried it. No change

[[☥] - CJ -]

Only thing i can think of is to rebind the Show/Hide
And to make sure any other display software is closed as it may cause conflicts with AB.

If AB is not installed in the default location i suppose that could be an issue?

[Lord Flashheart]

Originally posted by ☥ - CJ -:

Only thing i can think of is to rebind the Show/Hide
And to make sure any other display software is closed as it may cause conflicts with AB.

What is rebind the Show/Hide?

[[☥] - CJ -]

Change the keys for Show OSD and Hide OSD, is what i meant
Setting a Toggle Key is also something to try

[Lord Flashheart]

Originally posted by ☥ - CJ -:

Change the keys for Show OSD and Hide OSD, is what i meant

Ah right. made no difference

[[☥] - CJ -]

Have you gone into the Rivatuner settings and made sure show on screen display is listed as being On there?

Have you also tried closing AB, running the game THEN opening AB and trying to show the OSD? Any game thats on a HDD, it can take a moment for AB to load up in the game so Show OSD may not work as soon as you expect it to

[Lord Flashheart]

Originally posted by ☥ - CJ -:

Have you gone into the Rivatuner settings and made sure show on screen display is listed as being On there?



Have you also tried closing AB, running the game THEN opening AB and trying to show the OSD? Any game thats on a HDD, it can take a moment for AB to load up in the game so Show OSD may not work as soon as you expect it to

On screen display definitely on.

Tried the suggestion. Not working.


Very annoying.

[Lord Flashheart]

Originally posted by Mamba Bajamba:

Originally posted by ☥ - CJ -:

Have you gone into the Rivatuner settings and made sure show on screen display is listed as being On there?



Have you also tried closing AB, running the game THEN opening AB and trying to show the OSD? Any game thats on a HDD, it can take a moment for AB to load up in the game so Show OSD may not work as soon as you expect it to

On screen display definitely on.

Tried the suggestion. Not working.


Very annoying.

maybe after backup up games may need to stop the storeMI tier, reimage the boot image and copy games back from backup.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Never need to use steam backup just copy the steam games from one location to another, works just fine that way.

[SeriousCCIE]

could be that in device manager or another hardware viewer program, you can see if there is any resource sharing going on that took place after windows was introduced to your additional storage. it may be sharing resources or setting something aside in expectation you'll put that original drive back.

i have had that sort of issue on older machines (like xp/2003 server) where I had to go into device manager and undo what plug and play thoughtfully screwed up for me without even telling me it was making changes.

Often I had issues with my nvidia GT 9500 card conflicting with the SATA controller and I had to force an IRQ change, even though they all worked sharing one, it'd blue screen sometimes when I hit the disks hard or ran a benchmark that was video heavy. The BSOD usually referred to IRQ NOT EQUAL or something like that.

You're not crashing, obviously, but something is out of bounds... it may be that if you have things sharing resources, that you can change that or perhaps remove and allow windows to re-discover the hardware that is conflicting. It might be a memory range too, rather than just the IRQ, but it may take time to determine for sure. My BSOD errors made it easy to identify the issue, so you may have a harder go of it.