Iggy Wolf 2019년 7월 7일 오후 2시 07분
ASUS RTX 2080 deal
So there's a deal on Staples right now for the ASUS RTX 2080 OC 8 GB for only $469. I wanna get it, but my current card is a ASUS GTX 970 OC. My PC case is a pre-built ASUS M32CD case. I barely fit in my current card, but only because it's 11 inches. This card is 10.5 inches BUT it's 4.5 inches in width. My current one is only 1.6 inches in width. Will the 2080 be too big for my motherboard/PC case?
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Bad 💀 Motha 2019년 7월 8일 오후 12시 44분 
You can look review various benchmarks if you like. Bottom line is your cpu will hold back a high end gpu like that, it's common sense

I'm not saying it won't do well. But some games, any i5 is going to struggle
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calluM 2019년 7월 8일 오후 1시 24분 
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A 2080 won't be fully unleashed at 1080p, and the cpu holds it back regardless cause it's much slower and simply never was a good cpu choice for gaming along side a high end gpu, or in games that demand a strong cpu

Says who?! I'm not one of those people who think anything less than an i7 9600K is ♥♥♥♥. My i5 is good for what it does. Does it struggle on CPU demanding games sometimes? Sure. It's why I don't run Hitman 2's simulation settings above "Base". However, lowering graphics settings sometimes does give me more FPS, so obviously the i5 can process 1080P. It's my GPU that ends up struggling with the newer games. And 1080P is a basic industry standard these days. For the 2080, it's nothing. And if the card isn't pushed, then the CPU doesn't get pushed.

The CPU only struggles if the card requires more power than the CPU can handle. I'm not trying to game at 1080P AND 144 Hz. Obviously the CPU would struggle to actually process the extra frames, but on my current monitor, they're wasted frames. At worst, I'll just get screen tearing.

Not only is it not fully unleashed at 1080p, but you're also further wasting its potential it with a 60Hz monitor. You've essentially paid 500$ for something a 1660 Ti could have done. If it were me, i'd put the money you saved on a regularly priced 2080 towards either a 1080p 144Hz or 1440p 100-144Hz monitor.
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Iggy Wolf 2019년 7월 8일 오후 1시 26분 
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You can look review various benchmarks if you like. Bottom line is your cpu will hold back a high end gpu like that, it's common sense

I'm not saying it won't do well. But some games, any i5 is going to struggle

If course, but that doesn't mean the bottleneck will affect me poorly. Hell, you could say my current GPU is also bottlenecked by the CPU because it can do 150 FPS but the CPU only allows it to render 120, but since my monitor only has a 60 Hz refresh rate, it bottlenecks the GPU more than the CPU. If you play on an old game like Ultimate Doom, it should be able to put out 500 FPS but my CPU limits it to 200. Doesn't mean I suffer. I practically don't notice anything cause the game isn't even stressing the card OR CPU. It's practically idle.

BUT, since some of my games DO struggle with my current GPU, then I can be sure that at least this card will give me minimum 60 FPS. I don't care whether it can reach 90, 120, or 150 afterwards. My monitor can't render those extra frames anyway.
Bad 💀 Motha 2019년 7월 8일 오후 1시 33분 
A monitor doesn't bottleneck a gpu really. If it's 60hz that is just the max fps the display could show, anything above 60 fps is lost and tearing occurs. But the gpu still produces the max fps allowed based around cpu, visual settings, screen resolution, and not limiting the fps by a sync method of any kind. If anything, the cpu works harder at 1080p, if you are not limiting the fps in any ways, if the gpu is producing much higher fps on average, like around the 100+ fps arena

1440p/60 would be better suited for the rtx 2080 and shouldn't strain the cpu anymore then it already does at 1080p
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Iggy Wolf 2019년 7월 8일 오후 6시 17분 
All irrelevant now. They canceled the order. Unfortunately, it was too good to be true. Which does make me wonder if I should get a 1070/1080 instead so the bottleneck won't be too bad.
Bad 💀 Motha 2019년 7월 9일 오전 8시 57분 
Hardly any place has GTX 10xx series anymore and since those were highly used during the miner craze, I would avoid used ones of that series unless from someone you know perhaps. Or some sort of trusted source.

Coming from a gtx 970, and staying at 1080p, you would be fine to step up to a gtx 1660 ti or rtx 2060 super and it would be a good improvement over any 970
Iggy Wolf 2019년 7월 9일 오전 10시 26분 
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Hardly any place has GTX 10xx series anymore and since those were highly used during the miner craze, I would avoid used ones of that series unless from someone you know perhaps. Or some sort of trusted source.

Coming from a gtx 970, and staying at 1080p, you would be fine to step up to a gtx 1660 ti or rtx 2060 super and it would be a good improvement over any 970

Thanks. Say, how does the 2060 Super fare against the 2070? I'm only asking cause I saw a 2070 for $469 and if some of the Super cards are only $20 cheaper, would I not be better served getting the 2070 then?
emoticorpse 2019년 7월 9일 오전 10시 29분 
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Hardly any place has GTX 10xx series anymore and since those were highly used during the miner craze, I would avoid used ones of that series unless from someone you know perhaps. Or some sort of trusted source.

Coming from a gtx 970, and staying at 1080p, you would be fine to step up to a gtx 1660 ti or rtx 2060 super and it would be a good improvement over any 970

Thanks. Say, how does the 2060 Super fare against the 2070? I'm only asking cause I saw a 2070 for $469 and if some of the Super cards are only $20 cheaper, would I not be better served getting the 2070 then?

Where you seeing it for $469. It's listed on Amazon for $459.
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Iggy Wolf 2019년 7월 9일 오전 10시 31분 
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Thanks. Say, how does the 2060 Super fare against the 2070? I'm only asking cause I saw a 2070 for $469 and if some of the Super cards are only $20 cheaper, would I not be better served getting the 2070 then?

Where you seeing it for $469. It's listed on Amazon for $459.

Yeah, sorry. That's what I meant. The point is, the 2060s haven't yet dropped into stock. They're only available for backorder. But nonetheless, is the current 2070 still more powerful than the 2060 Super?
emoticorpse 2019년 7월 9일 오전 10시 37분 
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Where you seeing it for $469. It's listed on Amazon for $459.

Yeah, sorry. That's what I meant. The point is, the 2060s haven't yet dropped into stock. They're only available for backorder. But nonetheless, is the current 2070 still more powerful than the 2060 Super?

If I'm not mistaken they're supposed to be similar in performance. I'd wait at this point if you haven't bought it yet. I paid $500 for my 2070 and prices are significantly dropping. Only buy now if you really have a gaming emergency.
Iggy Wolf 2019년 7월 9일 오전 10시 39분 
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If I'm not mistaken they're supposed to be similar in performance. I'd wait at this point if you haven't bought it yet. I paid $500 for my 2070 and prices are significantly dropping. Only buy not if you really have a gaming emergency.

Well, yeah, I mean, I wouldn't call my current situation a gaming emergency. It's just that I don't expect any of these cards to get below $400 or $350 anytime soon in the future. The days of Mid-Tier cards being in the $250-$350 are long past. Especially with inflation taken into account. I got my 970 for $350 at the time, but I think it was a YEAR after release anyway. $100 less than a typical 2070 is still a fair price to me.
emoticorpse 2019년 7월 9일 오전 10시 43분 
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If I'm not mistaken they're supposed to be similar in performance. I'd wait at this point if you haven't bought it yet. I paid $500 for my 2070 and prices are significantly dropping. Only buy not if you really have a gaming emergency.

Well, yeah, I mean, I wouldn't call my current situation a gaming emergency. It's just that I don't expect any of these cards to get below $400 or $350 anytime soon in the future. The days of Mid-Tier cards being in the $250-$350 are long past. Especially with inflation taken into account. I got my 970 for $350 at the time, but I think it was a YEAR after release anyway. $100 less than a typical 2070 is still a fair price to me.

Nah, I don't think the 2070 would go below $400 either any time soon anyways. I can see it maybe dropping another $10-20 bucks in the next month or so but really not much more than that. If it's worth waiting for that much of a drop. I Sucks for people like me that paid $500 for it lol, you're still getting a great deal at $459.
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Iggy Wolf 2019년 7월 9일 오후 12시 22분 
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Well, yeah, I mean, I wouldn't call my current situation a gaming emergency. It's just that I don't expect any of these cards to get below $400 or $350 anytime soon in the future. The days of Mid-Tier cards being in the $250-$350 are long past. Especially with inflation taken into account. I got my 970 for $350 at the time, but I think it was a YEAR after release anyway. $100 less than a typical 2070 is still a fair price to me.

Nah, I don't think the 2070 would go below $400 either any time soon anyways. I can see it maybe dropping another $10-20 bucks in the next month or so but really not much more than that. If it's worth waiting for that much of a drop. I Sucks for people like me that paid $500 for it lol, you're still getting a great deal at $459.

I consider this card a good deal right now. But it's on a backorder, so who knows whether they'll have it in stock. https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2060-super-gv-n206swf2oc-8gd/p/N82E16814932174?Item=N82E16814932174
emoticorpse 2019년 7월 9일 오후 12시 47분 
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Nah, I don't think the 2070 would go below $400 either any time soon anyways. I can see it maybe dropping another $10-20 bucks in the next month or so but really not much more than that. If it's worth waiting for that much of a drop. I Sucks for people like me that paid $500 for it lol, you're still getting a great deal at $459.

I consider this card a good deal right now. But it's on a backorder, so who knows whether they'll have it in stock. https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2060-super-gv-n206swf2oc-8gd/p/N82E16814932174?Item=N82E16814932174

You try ordering it directly from Nvidia for $399? https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/rtx-2060-super/
Iggy Wolf 2019년 7월 9일 오후 2시 14분 
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I consider this card a good deal right now. But it's on a backorder, so who knows whether they'll have it in stock. https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2060-super-gv-n206swf2oc-8gd/p/N82E16814932174?Item=N82E16814932174

You try ordering it directly from Nvidia for $399? https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/rtx-2060-super/

No, but theirs is a regular one anyway. This is a GIGABYTE OCed one.
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