I need a cheap GPU to slap into a prebuilt PC for my Dad

[sliiide]

The PC in question is a Z210 with an i7-like Xeon Processor and 8gb of RAM. I got him GTA V and he loves that game the most out of all of the Valve games and Fallouts and Dooms I've set up for him so far, but he says something feels off.

The framerate is 25fps on the Quadro 2000 that he's using. He wants it to "feel as smooth as Half Life does" and fix the awful shadow popping.

I'm thinking an RX480 will be his best choice. I can find used 8gb ones on the market for like $35, unless they're tricking me with a BS bios flash on a crappy, older card (which I can find and demand ebay to return the money).

What's your guys' opinion?

He has a 4K Television that he's playing on with a high-end wireless keyboard and mouse (my old equipment; Logitech G Series Lightspeed Technology etc etc), but he doesn't need 4K to play; 1080p with his old eyes at the far distance away looks perfectly fine. I want him to be able to play any modern game at Middle-Ground settings at 1080p, and I'm not sure which cards would be best to put into his rig.

I'm open to upgrading the Power Supply if a power-hungry graphics card is especially cheap right around now.

I'm looking on the used market for between $60 and $80.

[Nabster]

It would be hard to get a decent GPU plus PSU with that price, what is the current PSU? Maybe a 1050ti second hand would fit if you can find one at that price with a lower power requirement

[emoticorpse]

Try the 480 for $35

[sliiide]

引用自 Nabster：

It would be hard to get a decent GPU plus PSU with that price, what is the current PSU? Maybe a 1050ti second hand would fit if you can find one at that price with a lower power requirement

It's a 400 watt power supply and it has one free 6 pin power connector and one free AMP connector

PSU Model Number: 619397-001, if that makes a difference or anything.

[Spec_Ops_Ape]

The RX 480 is most likely from an ex-mining rig/operation. Seen a lot AMD cards up for sale second-hand reasonably cheap. GPU mining ROI recently dropped when new ASIC miners hit the market for the latest cryptocurrency algorithms.

[Autumn_]

What CPU? i7 doesn't really mean much.

I wouldn't take the chance with the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ RX480 on Ebay, it's almost always a scam.
If there's loads of other listings with the same cooler, then it's a scam for sure.

As for what GPU to get.
I'd look at something like an RX580 8GB, or GTX 980/ti (if you can get one for 100 USD, haven't checked the prices lately.)

And for sure, so a PSU upgrade. The one that's in there is garbage.

[ugafan]

$35 sounds like a scam.

but if you can get an rx 480 it's a good card for gta 5 so long as you leave some settings like msaa off.

[sliiide]

引用自 Autumn：

What CPU? i7 doesn't really mean much.

I wouldn't take the chance with the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ RX480 on Ebay, it's almost always a scam.
If there's loads of other listings with the same cooler, then it's a scam for sure.

As for what GPU to get.
I'd look at something like an RX580 8GB, or GTX 980/ti (if you can get one for 100 USD, haven't checked the prices lately.)

And for sure, so a PSU upgrade. The one that's in there is garbage.

Xeon e3-1230 (though I'm not sure which version). If it's the worst one, it's a 4 core 8 thread CPU at 3.2 GHz non-boosted which released around the same time Sandy Bridge did.

I purchased the $40 8GB XFX RX480 off ebay, so if I test it and it turns out to be a crappy BIOS flash or something, I can get my money back through ebay's guarantee.

Though, I would like to know, I thought 480's are normally under $50 on the used market since they were a go-to GPU for crypto-mining systems. Are they normally more expensive than that? How can you tell that it's a scam just from the price?

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引用自 ugafan：

$35 sounds like a scam.

but if you can get an rx 480 it's a good card for gta 5 so long as you leave some settings like msaa off.

It was actually $40 for the 8GB version and something like $25 for the 4GB version.

引用自 Spec_Ops_Ape：

The RX 480 is most likely from an ex-mining rig/operation. Seen a lot AMD cards up for sale second-hand reasonably cheap. GPU mining ROI recently dropped when new ASIC miners hit the market for the latest cryptocurrency algorithms.

I don't mind that one bit. That's actually why I think it's selling for so cheap if it isn't a scam after all. I don't mind buying a mining card. Besides, if the miner was smart, he'd underclock it to save on the electricity bill if anything, which would be better than buying a card that was just used for normal games.

[Autumn_]

引用自 FumingStone：

引用自 Autumn：

What CPU? i7 doesn't really mean much.

I wouldn't take the chance with the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ RX480 on Ebay, it's almost always a scam.
If there's loads of other listings with the same cooler, then it's a scam for sure.

As for what GPU to get.
I'd look at something like an RX580 8GB, or GTX 980/ti (if you can get one for 100 USD, haven't checked the prices lately.)

And for sure, so a PSU upgrade. The one that's in there is garbage.

Xeon e3-1230 (though I'm not sure which version). If it's the worst one, it's a 4 core 8 thread CPU at 3.2 GHz non-boosted which released around the same time Sandy Bridge did.

I purchased the $40 8GB XFX RX480 off ebay, so if I test it and it turns out to be a crappy BIOS flash or something, I can get my money back through ebay's guarantee.

Though, I would like to know, I thought 480's are normally under $50 on the used market since they were a go-to GPU for crypto-mining systems. Are they normally more expensive than that? How can you tell that it's a scam just from the price?

Not a bad CPU then, slightly worse than a 3770k. Still fine.

Well, depends, if it's 'buy it now' it's around 80+USD from what I've seen.
If you bid on it then yeah, it'll be cheaper.

However, usually dirt cheap 'newish' cards are usually scams. Getting one that cheap doesn't really instill the most confidence.
(Give us a link to the listing; easy way to tell, it'll use the 'generic scam cooler.' Lmao.)

[tacoshy]

引用自 FumingStone：

引用自 Nabster：

It would be hard to get a decent GPU plus PSU with that price, what is the current PSU? Maybe a 1050ti second hand would fit if you can find one at that price with a lower power requirement

It's a 400 watt power supply and it has one free 6 pin power connector and one free AMP connector

PSU Model Number: 619397-001, if that makes a difference or anything.

Can you link me any ATX PSU with an AMP connector? (there none)

There is only PCI-E, CPU, ATX and SATA Power/Molex on an ATX PSU.

400w is even enough for most high end PC's exeptios of enthusiast and SLI as well as OC'ed high end systems like RTX 2080 Ti + 9900K


PA: A GTX 1050 To runs on the 75W PCI-E slot power from the Motherboard.

[sliiide]

引用自 Autumn：

引用自 FumingStone：

Xeon e3-1230 (though I'm not sure which version). If it's the worst one, it's a 4 core 8 thread CPU at 3.2 GHz non-boosted which released around the same time Sandy Bridge did.

I purchased the $40 8GB XFX RX480 off ebay, so if I test it and it turns out to be a crappy BIOS flash or something, I can get my money back through ebay's guarantee.

Though, I would like to know, I thought 480's are normally under $50 on the used market since they were a go-to GPU for crypto-mining systems. Are they normally more expensive than that? How can you tell that it's a scam just from the price?

Not a bad CPU then, slightly worse than a 3770k. Still fine.

Well, depends, if it's 'buy it now' it's around 80+USD from what I've seen.
If you bid on it then yeah, it'll be cheaper.

However, usually dirt cheap 'newish' cards are usually scams. Getting one that cheap doesn't really instill the most confidence.
(Give us a link to the listing; easy way to tell, it'll use the 'generic scam cooler.' Lmao.)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/XFX-RX480-8G-GDDR5-Video-Gaming-Graphic-Card/133102647307?var=432412196835&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140131123730%26meid%3D785e56607128444f88b3e672d7ed612d%26pid%3D100167%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D15%26mehot%3Dag%26sd%3D133102647307%26itm%3D432412196835&_trksid=p5411.c100167.m2940

引用自 tacoshy：

引用自 FumingStone：

It's a 400 watt power supply and it has one free 6 pin power connector and one free AMP connector

PSU Model Number: 619397-001, if that makes a difference or anything.

Can you link me any ATX PSU with an AMP connector? (there none)

There is only PCI-E, CPU, ATX and SATA Power/Molex on an ATX PSU.

400w is even enough for most high end PC's exeptios of enthusiast and SLI as well as OC'ed high end systems like RTX 2080 Ti + 9900K


PA: A GTX 1050 To runs on the 75W PCI-E slot power from the Motherboard.

Honestly I only got AMP Connector from a comparison shot of what a Molex connector looks like and what an AMP connector looks like. One of the corners was rounded from a 90° angle to a 45° + 45° angle. Maybe it is Molex after all; they look very similar. Even my newest PSU, and RM650X has something that looks similar, though I'm not sure what _exactly_ it is.

Also, a 1050 Ti is out because it's too expensive. The ebay seller has to send me something! Whatever he sends me, I'll use, be it the graphics card that I think I bought, or the Graphics card they'll try to sell me after I get my money back through ebay.

[Spec_Ops_Ape]

I see from your link that the seller has sold 79 of these cards so several mining rigs have been broken down. Nothing wrong with using ex-mining cards, they tend to get looked after pretty well and under-volted to reduce power consumption.

[sliiide]

引用自 Spec_Ops_Ape：

I see from your link that the seller has sold 79 of these cards so several mining rigs have been broken down. Nothing wrong with using ex-mining cards, they tend to get looked after pretty well and under-volted to reduce power consumption.

Thanks. That reassures my positivity bias. I like to think I know a lot about computer hardware, but really I'm just a guesser. I was getting suspicious because of the hard-swap fans that XFX RX480s have aren't hard-swappable.

https://imgur.com/a/W6Q72gd

[Talby]

If your PSU is a Delta DPS-400 AB like the one listed here[forums.tomshardware.com], with 2 x 12v@18A rails I think it will be just fine to handle an RX 480 (PSU calc here[outervision.com]). In all honesty, Delta OEMs are the ONLY oem psu I would trust :)

Also update your BIOS to the latest, seen a lot of issues with the R9 series GPUs and older boards (like my z68) there were a lot of issues on older boards (some would not even POST with R9 GPU installed).

[sliiide]

引用自 Talby：

If your PSU is a Delta DPS-400 AB like the one listed here[forums.tomshardware.com], with 2 x 12v@18A rails I think it will be just fine to handle an RX 480 (PSU calc here[outervision.com]). In all honesty, Delta OEMs are the ONLY oem psu I would trust :)

Also update your BIOS to the latest, seen a lot of issues with the R9 series GPUs and older boards (like my z68) there were a lot of issues on older boards (some would not even POST with R9 GPU installed).

How should I update the motherboard? I tried getting HP to scan for updates, but it didn't even detect it as a Z210 (since I installed everything on an entirely new hard drive)

Edit: Or did you mean updating the BIOS on the GPU?