can someone Explain whats the different between Override and Offset Modes In Bios ?
Override Vs Offset, whats the best for Lower temps and No decrease in performance, Note: im not overclocking, i just want to lower my temps because i want to undervolt
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Override will set the voltage to a specific voltage, it's easier to get stable but uses more power and produces more heat because the voltage will always be at 100%.

Offset will take the default voltage and add or subtract the given amount of voltage. With offset the voltage can remain dynamic, it will go up or down depending on the load on the CPU. This is harder to get stable but it is the way I would recommend someone to overclock to negate the effect of CPU degradation with higher voltages.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Omega; 2019. jún. 28., 18:05
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Override will set the voltage to a specific voltage, it's easier to get stable but uses more power and produces more heat because the voltage will always be at 100%.

Offset will take the default voltage and add or subtract the given amount of voltage. With offset the voltage can remain dynamic, it will go up or down depending on the load on the CPU. This is harder to get stable but it is the way I would recommend someone to overclock to negate the effect of CPU degradation with higher voltages.

So do you recommend Offset for Undervolting while not making my games crash ?
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Override will set the voltage to a specific voltage, it's easier to get stable but uses more power and produces more heat because the voltage will always be at 100%.

Offset will take the default voltage and add or subtract the given amount of voltage. With offset the voltage can remain dynamic, it will go up or down depending on the load on the CPU. This is harder to get stable but it is the way I would recommend someone to overclock to negate the effect of CPU degradation with higher voltages.

So do you recommend Offset for Undervolting while not making my games crash ?
If you want lower CPU temps, yes use offset or dynamic.

I can't guarantee the CPU will be stable with an undervolt applied. If you have a decent chip it should run fine with a minor undervolt.

A more effective way of lowering temps would be to disable turbo boost.


But do you really have to underclock/undervolt? What are the temps you are running at now and what CPU?
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Omega; 2019. jún. 28., 18:14
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So do you recommend Offset for Undervolting while not making my games crash ?
If you want lower CPU temps, yes use offset or dynamic.

I can't guarantee the CPU will be stable with an undervolt applied. If you have a decent chip it should run fine with a minor undervolt.

A more effective way of lowering temps would be to disable turbo boost.


But do you really have to underclock? What are the temps you are running at now and what CPU?

ok if i use Offset but without undervolting just only changing the Mode , will that reduce heat but will not reduce Performance ?
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So do you recommend Offset for Undervolting while not making my games crash ?
If you want lower CPU temps, yes use offset or dynamic.

I can't guarantee the CPU will be stable with an undervolt applied. If you have a decent chip it should run fine with a minor undervolt.

A more effective way of lowering temps would be to disable turbo boost.


But do you really have to underclock/undervolt? What are the temps you are running at now and what CPU?


I want a mode that will use the Voltage it needs to run the game,software etc and decrease the voltage when its not needed
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If you want lower CPU temps, yes use offset or dynamic.

I can't guarantee the CPU will be stable with an undervolt applied. If you have a decent chip it should run fine with a minor undervolt.

A more effective way of lowering temps would be to disable turbo boost.


But do you really have to underclock? What are the temps you are running at now and what CPU?

ok if i use Offset but without undervolting just only changing the Mode , will that reduce heat but will not reduce Performance ?
Changing the mode to offset and giving it a value of 0 will not do anything.

Default voltage +/- Offset set at 0 = Still the default voltage



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Omega eredeti hozzászólása:
If you want lower CPU temps, yes use offset or dynamic.

I can't guarantee the CPU will be stable with an undervolt applied. If you have a decent chip it should run fine with a minor undervolt.

A more effective way of lowering temps would be to disable turbo boost.


But do you really have to underclock/undervolt? What are the temps you are running at now and what CPU?


I want a mode that will use the Voltage it needs to run the game,software etc and decrease the voltage when its not needed
Those modes are offset and adaptive.
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ok if i use Offset but without undervolting just only changing the Mode , will that reduce heat but will not reduce Performance ?
Changing the mode to offset and giving it a value of 0 will not do anything.

Default voltage +/- Offset set at 0 = Still the default voltage



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I want a mode that will use the Voltage it needs to run the game,software etc and decrease the voltage when its not needed
Those modes are offset and adaptive.


Ok so please just please make it simple for me i swear i didnt find a single clear answer in google, Im not Over clocking my rig , i have a i7-7700k i get about 71-73c when i use XMP 3000mhz , i turned off Intel turbo boost to Stock the Cpu core ar 4.2ghz stock. I want to get my temps lower without affecting the performance or getting any crashes and making sure that my system gets the necessary volts to run things and get decreased volts if its not needed. Adaptive or offset
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Changing the mode to offset and giving it a value of 0 will not do anything.

Default voltage +/- Offset set at 0 = Still the default voltage




Those modes are offset and adaptive.


Ok so please just please make it simple for me i swear i didnt find a single clear answer in google, Im not Over clocking my rig , i have a i7-7700k i get about 71-73c when i use XMP 3000mhz , i turned off Intel turbo boost to Stock the Cpu core ar 4.2ghz stock. I want to get my temps lower without affecting the performance or getting any crashes and making sure that my system gets the necessary volts to run things and get decreased volts if its not needed. Adaptive or offset
73c is fine, this is 'cold' for a CPU. You have no reason to undervolt.
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Ok so please just please make it simple for me i swear i didnt find a single clear answer in google, Im not Over clocking my rig , i have a i7-7700k i get about 71-73c when i use XMP 3000mhz , i turned off Intel turbo boost to Stock the Cpu core ar 4.2ghz stock. I want to get my temps lower without affecting the performance or getting any crashes and making sure that my system gets the necessary volts to run things and get decreased volts if its not needed. Adaptive or offset
73c is fine, this is 'cold' for a CPU. You have no reason to undervolt.

ok so whats the mode that i should use ?
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Ok so please just please make it simple for me i swear i didnt find a single clear answer in google, Im not Over clocking my rig , i have a i7-7700k i get about 71-73c when i use XMP 3000mhz , i turned off Intel turbo boost to Stock the Cpu core ar 4.2ghz stock. I want to get my temps lower without affecting the performance or getting any crashes and making sure that my system gets the necessary volts to run things and get decreased volts if its not needed. Adaptive or offset
73c is fine, this is 'cold' for a CPU. You have no reason to undervolt.


Thank God finally got the answer, Its better for me to use the Offset to better Undervolt my cpu

https://youtu.be/AxaIZgzTbMA
this video explains
override can ruin your hardware if you dont know what your doing
Omega eredeti hozzászólása:
This is harder to get stable but it is the way I would recommend someone to overclock to negate the effect of CPU degradation with higher voltages.

I would differ. I actually would sue overwrite (fixed). It will degrade the CPu elss then adaptive voltage. Most degeneration is caused by sudden temperature chanegs because of micro fracturing.
A fixed voltage will keep the temperature higher but more even as the voltage doesnt change. Degeneration is more likely with a adaptive voltage as there the temperature changes more often.

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override can ruin your hardware if you dont know what your doing

yes and no. Most CPU's are rated for 1.52V and msot motherboard dont even allow you without special settings to voltage that high. Besides 99% of the users hit the temperature barrier befor that. Most ppl cant even go with 1.4V. To actually damage the hardware you would activly need to disable all those security features incl thermal throtteling and emergency shut down. To do that, you either need a really bad guide or the knowledge how to do it.

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Ok so please just please make it simple for me i swear i didnt find a single clear answer in google, Im not Over clocking my rig , i have a i7-7700k i get about 71-73c when i use XMP 3000mhz , i turned off Intel turbo boost to Stock the Cpu core ar 4.2ghz stock. I want to get my temps lower without affecting the performance or getting any crashes and making sure that my system gets the necessary volts to run things and get decreased volts if its not needed. Adaptive or offset

it is not as simple as that. Turbo boost of 4.5GHz only works on 1 core while the other 3 will be at an idle C-State. Means they have nearly no heatoutput that way. The TDP is transfered to the remaining core to allow it to clock to 4.5GHz while not raising heat output.
So deactivating turbo boost will not really drop your temperature as it unlike overclocking does not apply to all cores without loss multicore performance.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: tacoshy; 2019. jún. 28., 20:53
Just disable Turbo and OC the cpu base clock to what the turbo would have been hitting. Then lower cpu vcore until it's stable under a full load.

No point in trying to get lower temp when your temps are fine. That is not even hot for that cpu.
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Just disable Turbo and OC the cpu base clock to what the turbo would have been hitting. Then lower cpu vcore until it's stable under a full load.

No point in trying to get lower temp when your temps are fine. That is not even hot for that cpu.

Give me a good CPU and memory Stress test that is easy and not complicated
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Aida64

Trial download.

You can pick wich systems to stress in any given test and get really solid, easy to read temps for everything.

It would be my choice if I was only going to use 1 program for testing.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: sawdust3d; 2019. jún. 29., 19:44
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