Is this a decent pc?

[Rio]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DHCYHB

i3-9100f
4gb video card
16gb ram

7 days, space engineers, the forest, subnautica, ark, etc.

[Komrade]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Bad 💀 Motha:

Doubtful since oem prebuild cases and psus are all junk for the most part. I wouldn't trust a cheap psu from any prebuild on a modern diy build, especially when using a dedicated gpu.

[Rio]

Is a rx570/rx580 with no capture card decent enough for streaming or making youtubes? Even if its say just pixel games or regular games at 360/480/720

And is any 580 VR ready like some say or only certain ones?

[r.linder]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από White:

Is a rx570/rx580 with no capture card decent enough for streaming or making youtubes? Even if its say just pixel games or regular games at 360/480/720

And is any 580 VR ready like some say or only certain ones?

The vast majority will not be interested in watching poor quality videos. If you don't put quality into the system, you won't get anywhere. Therefore, you need a capture card and you ideally want at least a 590 or 1660.

VR is heavily GPU dependent, and the past generation cards like the 580 and 1060 are rapidly being phased out, often having to drop settings. So expect that you will have to often with VR.

[Komrade]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Escorve:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από White:

Is a rx570/rx580 with no capture card decent enough for streaming or making youtubes? Even if its say just pixel games or regular games at 360/480/720

And is any 580 VR ready like some say or only certain ones?

The vast majority will not be interested in watching poor quality videos. If you don't put quality into the system, you won't get anywhere. Therefore, you need a capture card and you ideally want at least a 590 or 1660.

VR is heavily GPU dependent, and the past generation cards like the 580 and 1060 are rapidly being phased out, often having to drop settings. So expect that you will have to often with VR.

^ This, if any stream is below 720p I don't watch it.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από White:

Is a rx570/rx580 with no capture card decent enough for streaming or making youtubes? Even if its say just pixel games or regular games at 360/480/720

And is any 580 VR ready like some say or only certain ones?

You never need a capture card unless capturing from an external device like a console or another pc

Hmm for VR you want 5700 XT or 2070 Super, nothing less.

[Snow]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από White:

Is a rx570/rx580 with no capture card decent enough for streaming or making youtubes? Even if its say just pixel games or regular games at 360/480/720

And is any 580 VR ready like some say or only certain ones?

RX 570/580 can stream anywhere between 2 and 6 4096*2160 60 fps videos simultaneously, so yeah, it will definitely do 720 without breaking a sweat.

[Komrade]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Snow:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από White:

Is a rx570/rx580 with no capture card decent enough for streaming or making youtubes? Even if its say just pixel games or regular games at 360/480/720

And is any 580 VR ready like some say or only certain ones?

RX 570/580 can stream anywhere between 2 and 6 4096*2160 60 fps videos simultaneously, so yeah, it will definitely do 720 without breaking a sweat.

He means like... Live streaming

[Snow]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από notkennyS:

He means like... Live streaming

Sure, H.264 video encoding on the fly. I don't see any problems here, I've been recording/streaming 1080p@60FPS 20mbps videos with Radeon HD 7770 effortless, and I've posted the specifications of VCE 3.0 present in RX 570/580. Even my current GTX 1050 has no problems with that, and AMD implemented hardware accelerated video encoding in their cards even before NVidia did.
https://imgur.com/a/I8zS8Kf
Here you can see 1080p 60fps 20mbps bitrate putting only around 15% load on my GPU and around 25% load on video encoding ASIC, and my card is lower than low-end.

[DarkStarClassic]

Ark is demanding your specs are just to low for that game. CPU and HDD will be the problem.
Rest is ok.

These days Rynzen CPU's are the choice not Intel.

[Snow]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από DarkStarClassic:

Ark is demanding your specs are just to low for that game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egrb-7ITfxs
From what I see it's quite possible to achieve 100+ FPS with such a setup, so I expect them to be able to achieve around 60 fps with some tweaking and full resolution scaling.

[L37]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Snow:

Sure, H.264 video encoding on the fly. I don't see any problems here, I've been recording/streaming 1080p@60FPS 20mbps videos with Radeon HD 7770 effortless, and I've posted the specifications of VCE 3.0 present in RX 570/580. Even my current GTX 1050 has no problems with that, and AMD implemented hardware accelerated video encoding in their cards even before NVidia did.
https://imgur.com/a/I8zS8Kf
Here you can see 1080p 60fps 20mbps bitrate putting only around 15% load on my GPU and around 25% load on video encoding ASIC, and my card is lower than low-end.

I have RX580 and honestly video encoding is not great. It causes significant performance drop, to the point when activating ancient (ivy bridge) iGPU and using that to encode video produces MUCH better results.
Also on previous card, which was GTX660, it indeed worked with near-zero performance impact. On the same system.
I may be doing something wrong, but it does not look like it...

https://imgur.com/ayk2Q54
https://imgur.com/KCRhj5b
https://imgur.com/cut9U3t

[Snow]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από L37:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Snow:

Sure, H.264 video encoding on the fly. I don't see any problems here, I've been recording/streaming 1080p@60FPS 20mbps videos with Radeon HD 7770 effortless, and I've posted the specifications of VCE 3.0 present in RX 570/580. Even my current GTX 1050 has no problems with that, and AMD implemented hardware accelerated video encoding in their cards even before NVidia did.
https://imgur.com/a/I8zS8Kf
Here you can see 1080p 60fps 20mbps bitrate putting only around 15% load on my GPU and around 25% load on video encoding ASIC, and my card is lower than low-end.

I have RX580 and honestly video encoding is not great. It causes significant performance drop, to the point when activating ancient (ivy bridge) iGPU and using that to encode video produces MUCH better results.
Also on previous card, which was GTX660, it indeed worked with near-zero performance impact. On the same system.
I may be doing something wrong, but it does not look like it...

That's actually really, really weird. Are you sure you were using hardware accelerated video encoding? I have Sandy iGPU myself and it can't do ♥♥♥♥ compared to HD 7700, let alone modern graphics cards.
Unfortunately, I couldn't find any decent RX 580 video encoding tests, just this[slothtechtv.com] article claiming it handled up to 14 simultaneous H.264 1080p 30fps 10mbps transcoding jobs, and while it does indeed say RX 580 is definitely capable of streaming games, it still is not live streaming. There are some OBS tests of 400 series cards that should be identical to those of 500 series cards, and those claim[github.com] RX 480 was only encoding up to 102 frames H.264 1080p medium preset and up to 124 frames H.265 1080p medium preset, which isstill enough for streaming games in HD/FHD, but is way lower than I expected. It's also important to note it's an open-source third party software, so performance might differ from ReLive. I also found this video showing pretty decent ReLive results with RX 470.

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από L37:

https://imgur.com/ayk2Q54
https://imgur.com/KCRhj5b
https://imgur.com/cut9U3t

Try H.265, info I found says 400 and 500 series have reduced H.264 thoughput meant to increase H.265 performance.

[djfred84]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dgJxcq

[L37]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Snow:

That's actually really, really weird. Are you sure you were using hardware accelerated video encoding? I have Sandy iGPU myself and it can't do ♥♥♥♥ compared to HD 7700, let alone modern graphics cards.
Unfortunately, I couldn't find any decent RX 580 video encoding tests, just this[slothtechtv.com] article claiming it handled up to 14 simultaneous H.264 1080p 30fps 10mbps transcoding jobs, and while it does indeed say RX 580 is definitely capable of streaming games, it still is not live streaming. There are some OBS tests of 400 series cards that should be identical to those of 500 series cards, and those claim[github.com] RX 480 was only encoding up to 102 frames H.264 1080p medium preset and up to 124 frames H.265 1080p medium preset, which isstill enough for streaming games in HD/FHD, but is way lower than I expected. It's also important to note it's an open-source third party software, so performance might differ from ReLive. I also found this video showing pretty decent ReLive results with RX 470.
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Try H.265, info I found says 400 and 500 series have reduced H.264 thoughput meant to increase H.265 performance.

Yes, it is certainly hardware because it does not cause any significant CPU load. Honestly i did not fiddle with it too much as i am not trying to stream, just record videos from time to time. I tried OBS and msi afterburner, they produced same results and i concluded that it's hardware limitation. May have something to do with the fact that i am downscaling from 2160p too, but IIRC i tried running games in 1080p. Apart from low encoding performance another issue is - it causes FPS to drop like 2x-3x making it totally useless for recording games. All this was kind of shocking to me after GTX660, which was totally incapable of running games in 2160p but was still able to encode video without any performance loss. I even considered trying to add it into the system, but then i remembered about iGPU and surprisingly it turned out to be perfectly capable of doing what i need - recording videos without noticable performance loss. Never thought i will use this thing, always considered it to be most useless piece of silicon ever, turned out i was wrong...
Trying h.265 is actually great idea, i'll do it later.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Doesn't matter if locally recording or live streaming you'd setup OBS Studio basically the same for both. Only difference is the video uploading live vs just saving to local disk drive only. It also helps to have an ssd to dump your videos to. When they are done edit them and finalize them them move to a large hdd if you want to store longer term. Recording to an ssd helps greatly. In such a Sussex then you would want 2x ssd and 1x 7200rpm hdd minimum. Ssd for os and apps, ssd for video recording and maybe some games that benefit from ssd. Large hdd like 4tb+ to store other installed games and loose files, such as videos once they are completed.