RX 5700 XT

[Cloudy]

My friend is thinking of maybe getting a RX 5700 XT instead of a RTX 2060 Super since he wouldn't take advantage of the RTX's ray tracing, DLSS, or NvEnc features and the RX 5700 XT is stronger for the same price.

But he is second guessing it as a viable option due to him in the past seeing reports of issues involving drivers. Can anyone be honest and tell me straight how much fussing he would have to do with drivers? Would he often have to revert to older versions, and how difficult is it to update drivers, is it simular to GeForce Experience?

[Omega]

Currently the drivers are still a buggy mess, but they will get better over time.

Get the 5700 XT, if it's a better deal as long as you don't mind dealing with buggy drivers for another month or two.


Keep the drivers up to date, update whenever a new version releases which should be quite often.

See known issues:
https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-19-11-1

[Cloudy]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Omega:

Currently the drivers are still a buggy mess, but they will get better over time.

Get the 5700 XT, if it's a better deal as long as you don't mind dealing with buggy drivers for another month or two.


Keep the drivers up to date, update whenever a new version releases which should be quite often.

See known issues:
https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-19-11-1

Thank you for the honesty and link, appreciate the feedback.

[h_LordEC[no-VC]]

Powercolor Red Devil 5700XT here. Only potential driver issues I've encountered after the first WHQL release after launch is some crashing with GTA5 Online. Seeing as how I was crashing in the same game with the GTX970 I moved from, AMD drivers may not be the problem.

It is my first AMD card since my R9 290 and AMD's Radeon settings is very similar to Geforce Experience. I liked the simplistic nature of Nvidia's control panel for global settings and such, but AMD's is relatively simple to use and all in one, if you want it to be.

Edit- To be fair I don't play a lot of newly released AAA games, but the dozen or so games I've played with the card have been problem free.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Forget ray tracing.
Just compare the raw gaming performance alone.
AMD has nothing like GFE or ShadowPlay

[h_LordEC[no-VC]]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Bad 💀 Motha:

Forget ray tracing.
Just compare the raw gaming performance alone.
AMD has nothing like GFE or ShadowPlay

What? Their software package/app is called Adrenalin which is an all in one piece of software for their drivers/settings.
https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/radeon-software

Under the Gaming tab in Radeon Settings, it is exactly like GFE. You can use recommended settings on a per game basis.
https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/radeon-software-advisor

AMD Relive is very similar to Shadowplay and actually has less of a performance hit.
https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/radeon-software-relive

[Omega]

Początkowo opublikowane przez h_LordEC:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Bad 💀 Motha:

Forget ray tracing.
Just compare the raw gaming performance alone.
AMD has nothing like GFE or ShadowPlay

What?

Under the Gaming tab in Radeon Settings, it is exactly like GFE. You can use recommended settings on a per game basis.

AMD Relive is very similar to Shadowplay and actually has less of a performance hit.

What BM means is that AMD doesn't have a seperate piece of malware you have to install for basic features such as driver update notifications. Everything is included in this one single control panel.

[L37]

Honestly IMO most issues people have with drivers are caused by attempts to constantly update on every minor release. You catch each and every bug this way.
Hardware related issues (new gpu, specific driver for it might be buggy at first) will be fixed pretty fast and then it will just work. I do not have 5700XT specifically but AMD drivers in general been working just fine for me for ~year since i got rx580.
Did not update for most of this time and did not have single reason to - everything is running as it should. UI and accompanying bloat... i am not a huge fan of, nvidia's drivers are better in terms of it (simplistic UI, all the trash like experience is optional during install), but UI you only need once to configure settings and you never open it again, and bloat can be removed with some effort.

[Komrade]

Początkowo opublikowane przez L37:

Honestly IMO most issues people have with drivers are caused by attempts to constantly update on every minor release. You catch each and every bug this way.
Hardware related issues (new gpu, specific driver for it might be buggy at first) will be fixed pretty fast and then it will just work. I do not have 5700XT specifically but AMD drivers in general been working just fine for me for ~year since i got rx580.
Did not update for most of this time and did not have single reason to - everything is running as it should. UI and accompanying bloat... i am not a huge fan of, nvidia's drivers are better in terms of it (simplistic UI, all the trash like experience is optional during install), but UI you only need once to configure settings and you never open it again, and bloat can be removed with some effort.

Not in this case, you'd want the most updated 5700XT drivers.

[Cloudy]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Omega:

Początkowo opublikowane przez h_LordEC:

What?

Under the Gaming tab in Radeon Settings, it is exactly like GFE. You can use recommended settings on a per game basis.

AMD Relive is very similar to Shadowplay and actually has less of a performance hit.

AMD doesn't have a seperate piece of malware you have to install for basic features such as driver update notifications.

You don't "have" to use GeForce Experience, it's optional software... You can obviously update drivers without having it.

[h_LordEC[no-VC]]

Początkowo opublikowane przez notkennyS:

Początkowo opublikowane przez L37:

Honestly IMO most issues people have with drivers are caused by attempts to constantly update on every minor release. You catch each and every bug this way.
Hardware related issues (new gpu, specific driver for it might be buggy at first) will be fixed pretty fast and then it will just work. I do not have 5700XT specifically but AMD drivers in general been working just fine for me for ~year since i got rx580.
Did not update for most of this time and did not have single reason to - everything is running as it should. UI and accompanying bloat... i am not a huge fan of, nvidia's drivers are better in terms of it (simplistic UI, all the trash like experience is optional during install), but UI you only need once to configure settings and you never open it again, and bloat can be removed with some effort.

Not in this case, you'd want the most updated 5700XT drivers.

Not really, most recent drivers aren't going to be WHQL certified.

What he meant is once you find a driver release that works well for you, you don't need to keep updating upon every new release.

[Omega]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Cloudy Canadian:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Omega:

AMD doesn't have a seperate piece of malware you have to install for basic features such as driver update notifications.

You have "have" to use GeForce Experience, it's optional software... Very misleading.

What I said is that you have to install it for basic features.

[Komrade]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Cloudy Canadian:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Omega:

AMD doesn't have a seperate piece of malware you have to install for basic features such as driver update notifications.

You have "have" to use GeForce Experience, it's optional software... Very misleading.

"have to install for basic features such as driver update notifications."

Omega is correct actually, if you want driver install notifications you must download GFE.

[L37]

Początkowo opublikowane przez notkennyS:

Not in this case, you'd want the most updated 5700XT drivers.

For short period of time while they are fixing actual issues with actual driver - yes.
Half a year later all the changes they make will, again, be adding new game advertisment images, and at that point no reason to update anymore.

Początkowo opublikowane przez h_LordEC:

Not really, most recent drivers aren't going to be WHQL certified.

What he meant is once you find a driver release that works well for you, you don't need to keep updating upon every new release.

Yes, exactly this. No beta drivers and once it works - no reason to touch it.

[Komrade]

Początkowo opublikowane przez h_LordEC:

Początkowo opublikowane przez notkennyS:

Not in this case, you'd want the most updated 5700XT drivers.

Not really, most recent drivers aren't going to be WHQL certified.

What he meant is once you find a driver release that works well for you, you don't need to keep updating upon every new release.

In this specific case you would want to update drivers, as bugs are fixed everytime for the 5700/xt.

[Cloudy]

My friend who would be using the RX 5700 XT would use FreeSync and dual 144Hz monitor setup, he doesn't use HDR atleast.