Best combo CPU/GPU for 1440p 144hz gaming 2019

[naga133]

Hello guys and girls. I'm thinking of building new PC. Actually i want your opinion only for GPU and CPU. So my situation: i want to buy 2k (1440p) 144hz monitor (maybe msi optix or something like that) but the thing is i don't know what CPU and GPU I'm going to need for that kind of experience. For now I'm thinking of buying probably Ryzen 3700x and maybe 5700xt. Is that gonna be enough? Let's say i want to play games like COD MW 2019, AC odyssey... So yeah i need your opinion. Thank you :)

[Autumn_]

2k is 1080p, 2.5k is 1440p, 4k is 2160p.

3600 non-x, 16gb 3200mhz, and RTX 2070 super.

[Revelene]

Цитата допису naga133:

Yeah but Im worried that in future (lets say 1 or 2 years) the games gonna start using more cores. Thats why i was thinking for 3700x. However 3600x is fantastic CPU... i agree. But the thing is that i want my GPU and CPU to hold that 1440p 144hz gaming at lest 1-2 years on the new games.

I still run with an old 4790K with a 1080 and run a 1440p/165hz monitor without issue. Most games are well above 60 fps and gsync keeps things silky smooth.

CPU is still not that much of a limiting factor, despite advancements in core/thread usage. Invest more in the GPU.

[Chompman]

With the $100 or so you save going for a 3600 / 3600x over the 3700x pick up the 2070 super over 5700 xt for a decent boost that you will need for 1440p 144hz.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WqtFGc

[emoticorpse]

Цитата допису naga133:

Ok so 3600x or 3700x ? and 5700xt or 2080 ? I didn't say 2080super because the difference between 2080s and 2080 are something like 2-3 fps.

I'd get 3700x in case my vote counts. I'm not thinking SIMPLY gaming though. personally think it's worth the investment for everything else pc wise.

[naga133]

Цитата допису emoticorpse:

Цитата допису naga133:

Ok so 3600x or 3700x ? and 5700xt or 2080 ? I didn't say 2080super because the difference between 2080s and 2080 are something like 2-3 fps.

I'd get 3700x in case my vote counts. I'm not thinking SIMPLY gaming though. personally think it's worth the investment for everything else pc wise.

Thats the thing. Many websites are sharing same opinion about investing in better CPU. Not because 3600/x is not enough, but because they think that in the near future games gonna start using more threads and cores. But people keep telling me that 3600/x or i5 is enough. So I'm really confused what to pick. About the GPU i know that in order to play game on 144hz i need 144 fps +. But the only gpu thats gonna be really stable in 1440p on 144hz is the 2080ti or something even more expensive. I don't have that budget for 2080ti. I can get max 2080S or 2080. The differences between those 2 gpus is very small, but the price for super... So in the best situation i can get 2080. I like the 5700xt but many people keep telling me that AMD have difficult times with the drivers of that GPU. So yeah... I don't know what to do really. BTW 2070S is also option but i think its not gonna be really enough to play on 1440p 144hz. Overall i want to play games on ultra or high settings.

[Revelene]

Цитата допису naga133:

Цитата допису emoticorpse:

I'd get 3700x in case my vote counts. I'm not thinking SIMPLY gaming though. personally think it's worth the investment for everything else pc wise.

Thats the thing. Many websites are sharing same opinion about investing in better CPU. Not because 3600/x is not enough, but because they think that in the near future games gonna start using more threads and cores. ...

They have been saying that for years. So far, still waiting for my ancient 4th gen intel cpu to not be enough.

Games can use more cores/threads as is already. The GPU is still more important.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

With PS5 going to have CPU equivalent to Ryzen 7 2700X the games will be increasingly developed for eight cores 16 threads.

[L37]

Problem with "investing in better CPU because soon more cores/threads will become important" is that so far it never actually paid off. Not a single time in whole history. Main reason being - by the time those extra theads become relevant the CPU itself is already too old for it to matter.
For one of relatively recent examples take FX8***, the main reason to buy one always was "just wait, games will soon be made to use 8 cores, it will be great"... but it never happened, right? Games still rarely use 8 cores and those CPU-s are already hopelessly obsolete.
Conclusion - IMO just buy what's good for games now. Save some money on it. When/if more cores/threads become required - upgrade. But most likely upgrade will happen sooner for other reasons anyway.

[Revelene]

Цитата допису Rumpelcrutchskin:

With PS5 going to have CPU equivalent to Ryzen 7 2700X the games will be increasingly developed for eight cores 16 threads.

I mean, the Xbox One and PS4 came with two quad core cpus, and we are just starting to see 8 threads be properly utilized (sorta) years later... just sayin.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Цитата допису L37:

Problem with "investing in better CPU because soon more cores/threads will become important" is that so far it never actually paid off. Not a single time in whole history. Main reason being - by the time those extra theads become relevant the CPU itself is already too old for it to matter.
For one of relatively recent examples take FX8***, the main reason to buy one always was "just wait, games will soon be made to use 8 cores, it will be great"... but it never happened, right? Games still rarely use 8 cores and those CPU-s are already hopelessly obsolete.
Conclusion - IMO just buy what's good for games now. Save some money on it. When/if more cores/threads become required - upgrade. But most likely upgrade will happen sooner for other reasons anyway.

Problem with FX-series as example is that the FX-series was basically trash from the start.

[r.linder]

By time 6 cores isn't enough, and 8 cores is the mainstream, the 3700X will be crap anyway. Futureproofing is dead.

[Revelene]

Цитата допису Escorve:

By time 6 cores isn't enough, and 8 cores is the mainstream, the 3700X will be crap anyway. Futureproofing is dead.

Agreed.

[L37]

Цитата допису Rumpelcrutchskin:

Problem with FX-series as example is that the FX-series was basically trash from the start.

It kind of was. But even with all its issues it still was fater than equivalent quad core intel CPU-s at the time in ideally multi-threaded tasks. That's what gave AMD fans and others buying the CPU-s hope that one day they will become useful.

As for another example - there is C2Q, which was a good CPU in general and is usable even now, but suffered the same issue - obsolete by the time when 4 cores became useful. To make matters worse it was really expensive and people buying C2Q with lower frequency instead of faster C2D sacrificed noticable amount of performance and gained nothing.

[naga133]

Ok. Im gonna take your advise boys. I don't need to worry that the cpu gonna bottleneck the GPU, right ? Lets say if i have 3600 and rtx 2070 or 2080 or even 5700xt.