Chris Solomon 27 AGO 2019 a las 11:04 a. m.
need help finding Multi format drive adapter for legacy HDD
My dad passed on from this mortal coil last September after a long fight with cancer. I have been going through the things and projects he left behind. among those are about 100+ HDD's of varying capacities and formats. My mom wants me to go through the drives be for sending them off for recycling to make sure there is nothing worth saving on them. I have already told her that getting any data off of the MFM drives would be a HUGE undertaking, but that still leaves the IDE (ATA-1) EIDE (ATA-2) , the more modern IDE (PATA), and the SCSI drives. I am looking for a adapter or something that i can hook up to my laptop that will be able too read 2.5 and 3.5 drive of the following formats; IDE/EIDE (40-pin and 44-pin) and SCSI. having a SATA connection is optional but would be handy for future purposes. My laptop has USB 3.1 type C and USB 3.0 gen 2 ports. but I would not mind if the adapter device is USB 1.0. The important thing here is data retrieval. I need some suggestions. I found the following device on amazon, but it does not have a SCSI drive port.

https://www.amazon.com/Adapter-UNITEK-Universal-External-Support/dp/B01NAUIA6G


anyone know of a better adapter device?
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UTFapolloMarine 27 AGO 2019 a las 11:06 a. m. 
i have an HDD adaptor that came with its own Sata port might want to look into that as well, not sure how all adaptors work it seems legit though
SeriousCCIE 27 AGO 2019 a las 11:30 a. m. 
If you can get an ISA slot motherboard/system operational with DOS boot diskettes, you can use an MFM or an "RLL" disk controller to read the MFM drives. RLL was a later version of MFM (for lack of a better term and considering no one wants the details). It is backwards compatible, but if you had an RLL drive, it very likely wouldn't work on the MFM controller.

You can very likely, inexpensively, find USB to IDE and EIDE adapters. I have a number of them that I've picked up over the years-- they range from small with exposed wires to devices that look sort of like toasters and external enclosures that you side the disk into and turn it on after it is snugly in place. Prices might range between $5 and $35 US dollars for one of variable quality depending on the price range.

There is no such adapter for MFM (or RLL) that I am aware of, but someone here might know more than me...

The SCSI drives will probably require a special card or adapter. I have never found a USB based external SCSI enclosure or adapter--they did not make them for performance reasons, and when USB caught up in performance, people moved onto different disk drives or that scsi drives never really hit that consumer segment to drive any real demand for such a thing.

You will probably need a cheap card to read them, and cabling as well. You can find then for cheap on amazon and ebay. If your father is anything like me, there are going to be cards in the collection somewhere that can be used to read the old drives, but nothing will be clearly marked or make a lot of sense.

You will want to look at the drives themselves, the connectors, and then search online for pictures of scsi drives and connectors -- and see if they match what else may be in the collection. It may be that for the scsi at least, you have what you need, but don't know what you need and so don't recognize what you have. I hope that makes sense.

Scsi drive controllers often would set up/provision/format the drives in a special way that can only be recognized by that controller--so even if you bought something used from somewhere to read a scsi drive, you might find that Windows wants to format them because they are unusable. Chances are good that the drives are readable on the card they were formatted with, and that you'd need to find that in the collection.

Also, if it was me, I'd have tried to keep the drives and controllers together, because I myself wouldn't enjoy figuring out whatever I did previously and what to match it with. If your father did not do that, it may be that he kept the drives after an upgrade or a replacement so that he had a plan B, and that actually not much of anything really important is on them because he copied it all during an upgrade. I don't want to say not to thoroughly go through your options to check, but some of us tech guys hold onto old hardware and don't part with it because we know stuff breaks. The problem is, 10 years later, we look at the stuff and still don't get rid of it. Then it becomes part of a collection in our museum of archaic technology. Considering this, I still think everything you need for the scsi drives is going to be around in the collection somewhere, but it may be that the data that is retrievalable isn't all that important if it wasn't already on a system actively reading the disks already. Older IDE stuff often will consist of old boot drives and things like that and may prove to have more sentimental info on them. This is just based on my experience with estate management and my own thoughts on things.

Older IDE and EIDE drives used to require a board to act as the "controller" (again, not going into detail and just using a common term to access the hard drives) but many many motherboards started to integrate the functionality and cabling would go right to the board.

Lastly, if you find any tapes, I'd expect that may be a good place to focus a lot of efforts. Anyone putting forth the effort to back up to a tape probably put something important there. If there are any, chances are also good everything you need to read the tapes is close by--odds are not good a tape worth keeping all this time has no means to read whats on it. So, there may be more computer gear nearby that can read the tapes, too--if there are any tapes to begin with.


Chris Solomon 27 AGO 2019 a las 12:09 p. m. 
I am looking for an external usb adapter, sorry if this wasn't clear. I know how the older drives hook up, and what's required. IMHO, it has always been a mistake for the industry to do away with non-integrated drive interface boards. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, my dad canabalized his PC towards the end. The external usb adapter is ideal due to the shear number of drives not to mention it would be faster. While I could probably Frankenstein together a working desktop, it would be more effort than I want to put forth. One of the other things i found amongst my dad's stuff were over 40 Intel Isa lan cards, which in their day were top of the line. He had these, yet I had to work odd jobs around the house for almost two years for a cheapie lsa lan card that only did 1mbps when he had tons of 100mbps cards laying around. This is the main reason I want too put as little effort as nessacary into this. He may have been my dad, but he was a cheapskate and an a$$
UTFapolloMarine 27 AGO 2019 a las 12:12 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Chris Solomon:
I am looking for an external usb adapter, sorry if this wasn't clear. I know how the older drives hook up, and what's required. IMHO, it has always been a mistake for the industry to do away with non-integrated drive interface boards. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, my dad canabalized his PC towards the end. The external usb adapter is ideal due to the shear number of drives not to mention it would be faster. While I could probably Frankenstein together a working desktop, it would be more effort than I want to put forth. One of the other things i found amongst my dad's stuff were over 40 Intel Isa lan cards, which in their day were top of the line. He had these, yet I had to work odd jobs around the house for almost two years for a cheapie lsa lan card that only did 1mbps when he had tons of 100mbps cards laying around. This is the main reason I want too put as little effort as nessacary into this. He may have been my dad, but he was a cheapskate and an a$$
then that little device is good for you if you want to use a hdd as a usb then that adaptor will do ya, but be sure you have a sata cable to use on the adaptor, as far as older hdd with the gold pins im not sure we dont use those anymore may require even an older adaptor
Última edición por UTFapolloMarine; 27 AGO 2019 a las 12:13 p. m.
Chris Solomon 27 AGO 2019 a las 1:09 p. m. 
as long as it does ATA-1 and beyond (before EIDE) it will be fine.... I can probably get another adapter for for the SCSI drives with a little research. the MFM drives are out tho. I don't have cables or interfaces cards for those. I don't even know why he even had them. some people hoard junk and garbage, my dad hoarded Technology i guess. thanks for the input.
Última edición por Chris Solomon; 27 AGO 2019 a las 1:09 p. m.
UTFapolloMarine 27 AGO 2019 a las 1:10 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Chris Solomon:
as long as it does ATA-1 and beyond (before EIDE) it will be fine.... I can probably get another adapter for for the SCSI drives with a little research. the MFM drives are out tho. I don't have cables or interfaces cards for those. I don't even know why he even had them. some people hoard junk and garbage, my dad hoarded Technology i guess. thanks for the input.
yeppy good luck man
Wampum Biskit 27 AGO 2019 a las 3:04 p. m. 
also if your looking for old cheap computer parts , check on pricewatch.com aswell , i think they still have old stuff on there...
Chris Solomon 27 AGO 2019 a las 4:54 p. m. 
yeah... paid almost $200 back in '08 for a AMD Athlon XP 2800+ CPU to try and breathe new life into my aging desktop from a listing from there. IMHO all the tech recycling means that older stuff is not as availible anymore so their prices rocket up to absurd prices. I remember when i built my P2 desktop and there were dirt cheap 80386 and 80486 processors availible. not so much any more. there is a down side to trying to be enviromentally friendly.....

BTW... my mom thinks she know where my dad got all those stupid HDD's..... the state of California sometimes has these sales where they sell and auction off old stuff they are no longer using or stuff that has been seized and so on..... My dad appearantly purchased a pallete load or two of random HDD's from one of those events..... I have heard sometimes you can find a real good bargain on the stuff they sell there, but it is often a cr@p shoot. I don't know what he intended to use those drives for.... maybe something to do with the magnets with in them? who knows....
Última edición por Chris Solomon; 27 AGO 2019 a las 4:59 p. m.
UTFapolloMarine 27 AGO 2019 a las 5:11 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Chris Solomon:
yeah... paid almost $200 back in '08 for a AMD Athlon XP 2800+ CPU to try and breathe new life into my aging desktop from a listing from there. IMHO all the tech recycling means that older stuff is not as availible anymore so their prices rocket up to absurd prices. I remember when i built my P2 desktop and there were dirt cheap 80386 and 80486 processors availible. not so much any more. there is a down side to trying to be enviromentally friendly.....

BTW... my mom thinks she know where my dad got all those stupid HDD's..... the state of California sometimes has these sales where they sell and auction off old stuff they are no longer using or stuff that has been seized and so on..... My dad appearantly purchased a pallete load or two of random HDD's from one of those events..... I have heard sometimes you can find a real good bargain on the stuff they sell there, but it is often a cr@p shoot. I don't know what he intended to use those drives for.... maybe something to do with the magnets with in them? who knows....
in reality those auctions are from counter and display models that still work not sure about the hdd though we had gotten a very expensive skull candy speaker for free at one that was going for like 300$ at the time haha its just we couldnt press buttons but the speaker and treble worked haha, im also from california and miss them deals they got i used to shop at fries for all my electronics
Chris Solomon 27 AGO 2019 a las 6:33 p. m. 
hahaha.... I have a fry's not too far from where i live. it must be designed to go with the cities history or something, but it has a train sticking out of the wall above the entrance... its kinda dunny too see the first time.
UTFapolloMarine 27 AGO 2019 a las 6:48 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Chris Solomon:
hahaha.... I have a fry's not too far from where i live. it must be designed to go with the cities history or something, but it has a train sticking out of the wall above the entrance... its kinda dunny too see the first time.
nice man they actually have decent techs there to in the electronics section better than best buy to me i went there and grabbed my favorite albums for like 3 dollars each!
Chris Solomon 27 AGO 2019 a las 6:50 p. m. 
NICE!
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