Is it worth upgrading to a sapphire RX 5700 pulse or a sapphire RX 5700XT pulse from a Vega 56?
I was wondering if its worth upgrading to the RX 5700 series mentioned above? If there would be any noticable upgrade?
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Anandtech's bench is a great and easy way to compare hardware
https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/2521?vs=2523 Vega56 vs RX 5700
https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/2521?vs=2522 Vega56 vs RX 5700 XT
they also usually give thermals, power and acoustics.
Отредактировано Spec_Ops_Ape; 24 авг. 2019 г. в 19:22
If you go for a custom RX 5700 XT, stay away from the first batch of the MSI cards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=morJq0HJoCc
unless they manage to fix the issue before shipping the cards to retailers.
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If you go for a custom RX 5700 XT, stay away from the first batch of the MSI cards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=morJq0HJoCc
unless they manage to fix the issue before shipping the cards to retailers.

I always go with sapphire...they seem to have quality cards
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Anandtech's bench is a great and easy way to compare hardware
https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/2521?vs=2523 Vega56 vs RX 5700
https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/2521?vs=2522 Vega56 vs RX 5700 XT
they also usually give thermals, power and acoustics.

Thank you, good comparisons...looks like I missed anand....
For some reason I am thinking to stick with the vega 56, and then wait for the 2nd, or 3rd gen rdna series....since my first impressions with teh "no blur" and other things, felt very gimmicky...and there is no raytracing...which I scool...and I think it will appear in the subsequent amd cards....sonsidering that the next xbox will be based on the rdna cards (present ones perhaps), I would feel more comfortable having a better gpu, than the consoles, then it would make things more future proof, than just a "first gen series...

Perhaps my logic is flawed, but observing the fact that I did not even game in this whole month since I got the card...because even if I had time, I just did not feel the interest to do so...and that I did not see any new games worth my time...nor do I see any in the next months...perhaps those frames dont mean much to me nowadays....and I do not stress things as I used to ...to just jump on the "greatest/fastest card"....merely a mindful observation of oneself ;)
Отредактировано *| Lion Heart |*; 24 авг. 2019 г. в 19:42
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If you go for a custom RX 5700 XT, stay away from the first batch of the MSI cards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=morJq0HJoCc
unless they manage to fix the issue before shipping the cards to retailers.

I always go with sapphire...they seem to have quality cards
I agree. In the past decade I have owned 16 AMD GPU's, 11 of which were Sapphire.
SapphireTech is the no1 seller and manufacturer of AMD cards. They ONLY manufacture AMD GPU's and have been for more than a decade and I believe they were the first to implement the vapour chamber in the coldplate.
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I always go with sapphire...they seem to have quality cards
I agree. In the past decade I have owned 16 AMD GPU's, 11 of which were Sapphire.
SapphireTech is the no1 seller and manufacturer of AMD cards. They ONLY manufacture AMD GPU's and have been for more than a decade and I believe they were the first to implement the vapour chamber in the coldplate.

Yes, I loved them for the vapor hambers...those cards were fast to cool off after a gaming session, literally within 10 seconds..."toxix, vaporX" i think it was the series...
Отредактировано *| Lion Heart |*; 24 авг. 2019 г. в 19:59
hm...im tempted to stay with my vega 56, and just use that $120 on a 3d printer....
I still use a 1080p monitor, as long as i can max out anything on it for the next 2 years im happy....and if its above 40 frames...
Отредактировано *| Lion Heart |*; 24 авг. 2019 г. в 20:13
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hm...im tempted to stay with my vega 56, and just use that $120 on a 3d printer....
Given what you have said about your usage it maybe the way to go. Me, personally, I'm going to wait for second gen Navi, see what it brings to the gaming space in a couple of years.
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hm...im tempted to stay with my vega 56, and just use that $120 on a 3d printer....
Given what you have said about your usage it maybe the way to go. Me, personally, I'm going to wait for second gen Navi, see what it brings to the gaming space in a couple of years.

yes, that is what I was thinking as well...the first time I saw the "bonus"/new changes that navi offered...I was underwhelmed by it....especially the "no blur" / sharpening comparisons...it felt like a joke...in a way, it felt like a second gen top card will last a loooong time...since the entire xbox line of games will be based on the tweaked navi...so I would call it navi 1.5 ....having a next gen will make pretty much all console ports palayable, rather well (well not all, but you get my point)....I miss RTS games, and frankly for those a solid gpu is key...but with my current build I am ok on that front....

Thank you all for contributing to the discussion....it was helpful. :- )

It also made me realize that looking objectively at things, I do not game much, if at all in the last 2 years, if the oldie 7950 would not overheat (and I already replaced its thermal paste once, since 2012....i would have stayed with it....was just tempted by the $310 sale of the vega 56 and the lower temps/power draw...which i was shocked to observe, and still am not certain if it really just uses 5 watts in idlr.....are those numbers correct? I had seen 3W, 9, 11 watts....with the gou clock at 26MHz ,799 memory...I actually looked at my ups draw, and was wowed....
Отредактировано *| Lion Heart |*; 24 авг. 2019 г. в 20:24
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I'm not sure where he got 53% stronger from because even the Aniversary edition is only 36% stronger than the V56.
( https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-Vega-56-vs-AMD-RX-5700-XT/3938vs4045 , that's vs. the 5700 XT, but the Aniverary is just a better binned 5700XT iirc.)

POUusnavy says some strange things sometimes, but sometimes he's helpful, I don't think he means bad either.
My point, he's not the most reliable or accurate for information.
Still, I wouldn't just throw his opinion out, just check around or ask for proof (like you did.)

Anyway, back to topic.
Power draw/effecient is kinda not an issue, you're talking like 10-15 dollars a year difference. You'd make more money back changing your lightbulbs to energy efficent ones.

Temps with the stock cooler are garbage, we're talking 'spaceheater' levels, but most aftermarket coolers will do fine for it, so long as its not a blower, or super skinny heatsink.

Honestly, the Vega56/1070 is still fine for 1080p60fps max/high settings, so it's not a problem if you do decide to keep the V56.
You've gotta decide if 100 dollars is worth a ~30% gain in performance.


Could you link you source(s)?
I'm curious to know where you/they got ~50% from.


Ill skip the other discussions below, and rerouting back on the original topic....

I just got a vega 56 (well almost a month ago), and was waiting for an aftermarket 5700 or 4700xt....considering I went form a 7950, that served me well even on OC (untill lately it started to oeverheat) for so many years, and the fact that I dont game much nowadays, but want a quiet, cool(er, aka not room heater) build, I was thinking of returning the vega56 and getting a 5700...sicne looks like the 5700xt wont be available for a while...

I read more reviews and comparisons than I would want, but some only showed that 5700 was couple frames faster than vega 56, and2 or 3 reviews actually showed vega outperforming the 5700 by 1 or 2 frames...which totally stomped me....

and I have no interest of supporting nvidia ...ever...
I gotcha chief, 'drama' and derailing, to much to deal with.

Anyway, to the topic.
https://www.techspot.com/review/1870-amd-radeon-rx-5700/
These guys do some pretty good reviews, and as you can see, there is a pretty noticeable difference between the two cards. (V56 and 5700)

It's honestly up to you to decide if you think that extra performance is with 100 dollars.
(And if you'll ever use it, which if you're using Vsync on a 1080p60hz monitor, you probably wont' see a gain for a couple of years.)

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and I have no interest of supporting nvidia ...ever...
You and me both.
If you don't mind me asking you both, why don't you want to get Nvidia cards?
You're just limiting the products you can buy, who gives a ♥♥♥♥ what they do/think, so long as you're getting the product that suits you, surely that's all that matters right?
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Ill skip the other discussions below, and rerouting back on the original topic....

I just got a vega 56 (well almost a month ago), and was waiting for an aftermarket 5700 or 4700xt....considering I went form a 7950, that served me well even on OC (untill lately it started to oeverheat) for so many years, and the fact that I dont game much nowadays, but want a quiet, cool(er, aka not room heater) build, I was thinking of returning the vega56 and getting a 5700...sicne looks like the 5700xt wont be available for a while...

I read more reviews and comparisons than I would want, but some only showed that 5700 was couple frames faster than vega 56, and2 or 3 reviews actually showed vega outperforming the 5700 by 1 or 2 frames...which totally stomped me....

and I have no interest of supporting nvidia ...ever...
I gotcha chief, 'drama' and derailing, to much to deal with.

Anyway, to the topic.
https://www.techspot.com/review/1870-amd-radeon-rx-5700/
These guys do some pretty good reviews, and as you can see, there is a pretty noticeable difference between the two cards. (V56 and 5700)

It's honestly up to you to decide if you think that extra performance is with 100 dollars.
(And if you'll ever use it, which if you're using Vsync on a 1080p60hz monitor, you probably wont' see a gain for a couple of years.)

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You and me both.
If you don't mind me asking you both, why don't you want to get Nvidia cards?
You're just limiting the products you can buy, who gives a ♥♥♥♥ what they do/think, so long as you're getting the product that suits you, surely that's all that matters right?


Its a matter of principal for me, I observed questionable practices by nvidia, and will not support them. I used to use their cards more than a decade ago...I just choose to vote with my wallet, and support the company that I value more...in hopes that it will be rewarded...
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If you don't mind me asking you both, why don't you want to get Nvidia cards?
You're just limiting the products you can buy, who gives a ♥♥♥♥ what they do/think, so long as you're getting the product that suits you, surely that's all that matters right?
2009 - Q4 2017 1080p 60fps gaming
2017 till now 4K and 1440p 60fps gaming
Don't think I have missed out on anything by only using AMD.
Now, thanks to the monopoly Nvidia has, we now have $2000NZ+ GPU's and it will only get worse.
Отредактировано Spec_Ops_Ape; 24 авг. 2019 г. в 21:02
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If you don't mind me asking you both, why don't you want to get Nvidia cards?
You're just limiting the products you can buy, who gives a ♥♥♥♥ what they do/think, so long as you're getting the product that suits you, surely that's all that matters right?
2009 - Q4 2017 1080p 60fps gaming
2017 till now 4K and 1440p 60fps gaming
Don't think I have missed out on anything by only using AMD.
Now, thanks to the monopoly Nvidia has, we now have $2000NZ+ GPU's and it will only get worse.


agreed...I literally used the same 7950 OC'd card since its release...and frankly I was able to tweek the system (old one, with tons of upgrades) over the years to play almost at max specs a lot of games I was interested in...besides some more demanding ones, that I dint even bother with due to the theme, or some other concerns....
I saw some posts about getting the vega 56 to the vega 64 levels, is it true?
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